: Shaffer/Clifford: Why are they winning?


JR
07-08-2002, 07:04 PM
Ok Lance, what's the deal ? Tell us why you guys are winning so much. It's those freakin' tires you guys use isn't it? ;) :D
Is there some cheating or something going on or what? Come awn, we want to know!:flipoff2: :D

H8monday
07-08-2002, 07:08 PM
Lightweight, well ballanced, rig.
Driving Precision like a fighter pilot.
A tugboat for a spotter.

Travis Waldher
07-08-2002, 07:10 PM
Originally posted by H8monday
Lightweight, well ballanced, rig.
Driving Precision like a fighter pilot.
A tugboat for a spotter.

LOL.. I always figured that the sport was going to head toward Horse Jockey's for drivers with the rig sized accordingly. followed by a world weight lifting champion for a spotter. :D

The only way to make it more of a freak show than it already is. :flipoff2:

MattS
07-08-2002, 07:53 PM
Special drive/spotter fuel. It's all about the tacos. :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Lance
07-08-2002, 07:56 PM
steroids.

:flipoff2:

Bill Collins
07-08-2002, 07:58 PM
because they get it...

MIKE S
07-08-2002, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by H8monday
Lightweight, well ballanced, rig.
Driving Precision like a fighter pilot.
A tugboat for a spotter.


Well that sounds good!

The truth is if we win lance gets all the primerib he can eat .Its worked so far:smokin:

Lance
07-08-2002, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by MIKE S

The truth is if we win lance gets all the primerib he can eat .Its worked so far:D

:D :D :D :D :D

JR
07-08-2002, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by H8monday
Lightweight, well ballanced, rig.
Driving Precision like a fighter pilot.
A tugboat for a spotter.

So that's it? I don't buy it! Everyone knows you need lots of wieght to keep them tires down. :flipoff2: I call foul play, and I'm going to get to the bottom of it!:D

Besides, what am I going to do with the rockwells and clark 5 speed I just orderd :confused:

Mustard Dog
07-08-2002, 08:08 PM
Originally posted by JR


So that's it? I don't buy it! Everyone knows you need lots of wieght to them tires down. :flipoff2: I call foul play, and I'm going to get to the bottom of it!:D

Besides, what am I going to do with the rockwells and clark 5 speed I just orderd :confused:

Talk to fatkid......he did GREAT in the Carnage in a lightweight rig:D It's nothing but a Sammi on Toy (birfield) axles, stock small motor, and 33s:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Jeepmangled87
07-08-2002, 08:09 PM
Practice makes perfect

Alpo
07-08-2002, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by MIKE S
The truth is if we win lance gets all the primerib he can eat .Its worked so far:smokin:


What?!? Taco Bell not working out as the perfect 'Carrot on a stick' anymore???:laughing: :laughing:




Eric

Air Ride
07-08-2002, 08:18 PM
Its all about weight ratio. The spotter just has to weigh at least 10% of the rig he is spotting for.

JR
07-08-2002, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by Jeepmangled87
Practice makes perfect

Practice! I practice not once but twice every year, so that aint it. :flipoff2: Now I can go with the whole tug boat thing, but something else is up.
What kind of 'roids are you using, Tugboat, I mean Lance?

BTW, how much do I have to pay you guys to be a no-show at Super Crawl? :D

MattS
07-08-2002, 08:25 PM
Just doesn't look like this rig weighs 4000 pounds. :flipoff2: http://www.pirate4x4.com/trailreports/rcaa_vernal02/mike_lance1.jpg

Originally posted by Air Bag
Its all about weight ratio. The spotter just has to weigh at least 10% of the rig he is spotting for.

Roxywheels
07-08-2002, 08:39 PM
Originally posted by Lance
steroids.

:flipoff2:

You're gonna shrink up your balls mister!! :eek: :roxy:

fatkid
07-08-2002, 08:57 PM
Sammy's just plan get it.:D

JR
07-08-2002, 08:58 PM
Oh sure, you guys kick ass in rockcrawling, but I bet Ryeguy with his Chevy/mog could out pull 3 of your little mosquitoes tied together in a tug-o-war!:flipoff2:

rob
07-08-2002, 08:59 PM
Well if it is a 10% weight ratio thing then I'll wheel my sub next year with Lance as a spotter.I mean the way Kelly cooks how else can his weight do anything but go up.:D :D

MIKE S
07-08-2002, 09:01 PM
BTW, how much do I have to pay you guys to be a no-show at Super Crawl? :D [/B][/QUOTE]

$50,000.00 sounds good....lol

and for 75,000 Ill rent you my rig and spotter!:D

MIKE S
07-08-2002, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by JR
Oh sure, you guys kick ass in rockcrawling, but I bet Ryeguy with his Chevy/mog could out pull 3 of your little mosquitoes tied together in a tug-o-war!:flipoff2:


bring it:flipoff2:

AIRZUKI
07-08-2002, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by JR
Oh sure, you guys kick ass in rockcrawling, but I bet Ryeguy with his Chevy/mog could out pull 3 of your little mosquitoes tied together in a tug-o-war!:flipoff2:

as a witness to the awesome display that was the TTC tug -o- war....... I absolutely guarantee it!!!:D :D :D :D

SanDiegoCJ
07-08-2002, 09:11 PM
Originally posted by MIKE S



Well that sounds good!

The truth is if we win lance gets all the primerib he can eat .Its worked so far:smokin:

I didn't know you had that much money.:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Chris Geiger
07-08-2002, 09:23 PM
I think both Mike and Lance have deep desire to win and a true love of the sport. True passion of the sport!

JR
07-08-2002, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by MIKE S


$50,000.00 sounds good....lol

and for 75,000 Ill rent you my rig and spotter!:D [/B][/QUOTE]



How much for just the tugboat?

Lance
07-08-2002, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by SanDiegoCJ


I didn't know you had that much money.:laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

He doesn't.... But Summit does! :grinpimp: :laughing: :laughing:

Sillyneck
07-08-2002, 09:36 PM
I always knew of lance's skill but now I have seen schafer's skill too after this weekend. the box was not rediculously hard but was interesting and I watched him just slip right through. no metal hitting anything just tires on rocks. amazing. then he spotted a couple less experienced people though and they had 35-37" tires and it was the same thing. no backing up not metal sound just floating through as long as they did what he said. very impressive.

then I mashed jiMMy's landcruiser through there and it wasn't too pretty but he does have an open diff. and it is a big fawker :D I'm gonna steal it back :D

Belly Dragger
07-08-2002, 09:37 PM
I really know why they win all the time. It's a big secret, Mike made me swear never to tell anyone, but for the right price...... ;)

SanDiegoCJ
07-08-2002, 09:43 PM
Originally posted by Lance


He doesn't.... But Summit does! :grinpimp: :laughing: :laughing:

Ahhhhhhhhh, so that's how that works.:D :D :D :D

Roxywheels
07-08-2002, 09:49 PM
I think its got something to do with the matching outfits...especially those speed racer-esq jumpsuits! ;) Really a cute look for the both of them! :flipoff2: :roxy:

MattS
07-08-2002, 10:08 PM
I know it too!! It's kept in this green cooler, usually guarded by an angry giant. I got to sneak a peak while the giants were distracted. :D

Originally posted by Belly Dragger
I really know why they win all the time. It's a big secret, Mike made me swear never to tell anyone, but for the right price...... ;)

JR
07-08-2002, 10:10 PM
Originally posted by Sillyneck
they had 35-37" tires

35-37s! bwahahaha. I have one of those in the trunk of my bronco to use for a space-saving mini spare! :flipoff2: :D

tail_lite
07-08-2002, 10:19 PM
its also takes bigger balls than a monkey, right Eric ? :)

JR
07-08-2002, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by tail_lite
its also takes bigger balls than a monkey, right Eric ? :)

Oh, now you're hitting below the belt with the whole testicle thing!
Well, FYI, Eric shewed me his and I shewed him mine, and we decided they were big enough! It did make me feel funny, you know, like when we used to slide down the pull in gem class. :p :D

tail_lite
07-08-2002, 10:41 PM
:D lol.......

JR
07-08-2002, 11:41 PM
Hey guys, thanks for the " 'wheeling- lite" tonight.
Mike, Lance you guys are awesome. Can't wait to see you guys getten' it!
( still hope we win, even with our tiny balls though!) :)

4x4Grrl
07-08-2002, 11:44 PM
I knew him eating home cookin would come in handy someday. :flipoff2:

Sillyneck
07-09-2002, 12:16 AM
Originally posted by JR


35-37s! bwahahaha. I have one of those in the trunk of my bronco to use for a space-saving mini spare! :flipoff2: :D

I put 35-37's inside my 44's for extra weight to limit rolls :D bwahha

Rocksie
07-09-2002, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by JR
Ok Lance, what's the deal ? Tell us why you guys are winning so much. It's those freakin' tires you guys use isn't it? ;) :D
Is there some cheating or something going on or what? Come awn, we want to know!:flipoff2: :D


You are FULLY Underestimating the Sneakiness !!!
:flipoff2:

ComancheGrl
07-09-2002, 07:46 AM
Originally posted by JR
Ok Lance, what's the deal ? Tell us why you guys are winning so much. It's those freakin' tires you guys use isn't it? ;) :D
Is there some cheating or something going on or what? Come awn, we want to know!:flipoff2: :D


Nah.....its the judicious use of velcro

Travis Waldher
07-09-2002, 07:51 AM
Originally posted by Sillyneck


I put 35-37's inside my 44's for extra weight to limit rolls :D bwahha

whatever.. it was just your attempt at a run-flat system. :flipff2:

tsm1mt
07-09-2002, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by Sillyneck


I put 35-37's inside my 44's for extra weight to limit rolls :D bwahha

Now there's an idea..

Put some, say, 38s inside of some 44s, mount the pair on a rim.. you'd only inflate the 38s, the 44s would just "be there"..

Run the 38s at full pressure, and run the 44s flat.. there's your contact patch. :D

Bob
07-09-2002, 11:37 PM
:question:

The Jerk
07-09-2002, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by Bob
:question: dont worry Bob, just have another bud and youll be fine! jiMMy

Rocksie
07-10-2002, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by Scout Dude
BWHAhahahahahahahahaa..........(I bet most people won't get this!)

Just you....Apearently I was underestimating my own sneakiness!!!LOL!!!

DEnd
07-10-2002, 05:05 PM
but can I touch your feet?

Rocksie
07-10-2002, 05:09 PM
Originally posted by DEnd
but can I touch your feet?
*snicker*snicker*

MattS
07-10-2002, 06:50 PM
I get it now!! :D

Originally posted by Rocksie

*snicker*snicker*

JR
07-10-2002, 11:13 PM
Hey Rocksie,
About that signature pic you have. Are you checking to see if there is any "hard wood" in that floor or what? :D