: Rolling with a Diesel


Chief yelling alot
07-09-2002, 10:54 AM
is it a major panic to get it back up rite? Cant see it being any worse then a gas except that you have more rings

pcorssmit
07-09-2002, 11:08 AM
Only problem I could see is that you can't pull the plugs to get the oil out, unless it is a glow plug motor.

Pete

Chief yelling alot
07-09-2002, 01:36 PM
Originally posted by pcorssmit
Only problem I could see is that you can't pull the plugs to get the oil out, unless it is a glow plug motor.

Pete

are glow plugs as easy to take out as spark plugs?

i'm new to diesels

pcorssmit
07-09-2002, 01:51 PM
Basically, yes. Unless they are fried from a bad controller-when the controller or solenoid gets stuck on in a 6.2, the plugs swell up bigger than the hole they have to come out. If they break off when trying to remove them, you either have to pull the heads to get the pieces out, or remove the injectors and suck out the pieces with a vacuum.

Glow plug motors: 350 Olds, 6.2, (6.5, I think), 6.9 Ford, 7.3 Ford IDI, and Powerstrokes till ~early '99.

Non-glow plug motors: 5.9 Cummins, later model Powerstrokes--these motors both use a grid heater in the intake. Most larger diesels don't use plugs, a lot of them (such as the DT 466 used in school busses) use ether-injection for cold starting.

Pete

Grandpa Jeep
07-09-2002, 02:42 PM
Hmmmm, yesterday he wanted to know if you could get an intercooler wet, today he wants to know what happens when you roll a diesel. What are you up to Cheify?

BJ On Roids
07-09-2002, 04:09 PM
if it stalls straight away, which can happen, then you are good, if not a number of things can happen, cause of the heaps higher compression, any oil in there is more likely to bend a rod, and it wont want to start after that :smokin:

sometimes, if you are really unlucky, the oil will leak through and continue to burn, and this will in turn, increase the revs, fuel the turbo and it starts to free rev, lots of noise and a BANG

after not long, there wont be many running parts

to be safe pull the glow plugs, or injectors and crank it till the oil/water....whatever is all out then put it all back in, fire it up, with no bent rods or anything, as in you weren't revving it when it went over, or under (water) then you will be good as gold :flipoff2:

DieselYJ
07-10-2002, 06:46 AM
You can roll them with no major problems (trust me i did it). But because of the fuel injection, you better get it shut down asap. It will run itself out of oil and then it's fubar. And that = big $$$$$

Chief yelling alot
07-10-2002, 10:26 AM
Originally posted by Grandpa Jeep
Hmmmm, yesterday he wanted to know if you could get an intercooler wet, today he wants to know what happens when you roll a diesel. What are you up to Cheify?

well i'll spill the beans


I might get a deal on a 6.2 and was thinking

thow it in the scout and turbo it with an intercooler with propane injection

Grandpa Jeep
07-10-2002, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by Chief Yelling Alot


well i'll spill the beans


I might get a deal on a 6.2 and was thinking

thow it in the scout and turbo it with an intercooler with propane injection

If that's a GM 6.2, check the heads, more than likely they're cracked. If they're not cracked, they soon will be. I'd pass if it were me.

gunracer1
07-10-2002, 11:05 AM
i am with grand pa on this one, let the 6.2 go, they are weak and fragile. i have seen a few that went 300k but most need constant attention. and a turbo and propane will blow it to crap. mike

Chrisjeep7
07-10-2002, 11:11 AM
real diesels are I-6 or I-4...well can be 3.

Chris G.