which one? and why? comp minded

What is the use? Cutting brake or a parking brake?

Are you wating a PARKING brake, or a HOLDING brake?

it will be just as a cutter for turning mainly........... will have one front and rear

Front cutter? You have rear steer?

Originally posted by Old Scout
Front cutter? You have rear steer?

I would think you would have to go in reverse for that to work at all.

The Electric line locks are inexpensive and work fine.
I bought an ACD for $41.99 from jegs
http://www.jegs.com/photos/021LL.gif

Just buy the solenoid and get the fittings and toggle switch from napa. Don't buy a kit.

A little tip. If you wire the power feed to the battery be sure not to hit the switch when you park the rig for an extended period of time. Like a few days (my switch is mounted on the dash near my knee) It will kill the battery.:rolleyes: :emb:

Originally posted by syko
The Electric line locks are inexpensive and work fine.
I bought an ACD for $41.99 from jegs
http://www.jegs.com/photos/021LL.gif

Just buy the solenoid and get the fittings and toggle switch from napa. Don't buy a kit.

A little tip. If you wire the power feed to the battery be sure not to hit the switch when you park the rig for an extended period of time. Like a few days (my switch is mounted on the dash near my knee) It will kill the battery.:rolleyes: :emb:

I second this nomination. You definitely want electric for cutting. We have manual on the TJ and don't like them much due to leak by. It's also easier to press a button the turn a valve

Syko you're going to compete in July right? That is going to be very fun since we're all running together :D

Originally posted by syko
The Electric line locks are inexpensive and work fine.
I bought an ACD for $41.99 from jegs
http://www.jegs.com/photos/021LL.gif

Just buy the solenoid and get the fittings and toggle switch from napa. Don't buy a kit.

A little tip. If you wire the power feed to the battery be sure not to hit the switch when you park the rig for an extended period of time. Like a few days (my switch is mounted on the dash near my knee) It will kill the battery.:rolleyes: :emb:


what line did you plumb that bad boy into? I want (need) to install the electric style into my brakes as I have removed my E-brake. I want to use it as an E-brake/hill holder.

thanks for any info!:)

Originally posted by Harvester of Sorrow



what line did you plumb that bad boy into? I want (need) to install the electric style into my brakes as I have removed my E-brake. I want to use it as an E-brake/hill holder.

thanks for any info!:)

I have it plumb between the master cylinder and the proportioning valve for the front brakes. I'm using mine as a e-brake/hill holder:D If you want I'll take some pics tonight. It was very simple

Originally posted by bigdude
Syko you're going to compete in July right? That is going to be very fun since we're all running together :D
That's the plan, I'm throwing a scout dana 44 in the front and a 60 in the rear SOA before then. I would like to stay together this time and maybe complete the event. It looks like I may have a spotter lined-up. So we shall see. I've got 17 days and will be in Denver, CO for 4 of them.(work) I'm going to do my best.

Originally posted by Old Scout
Front cutter? You have rear steer?


cutter, what ever you want to call it.... lock in front power the rear into a donut as the front sits there,

go with 4. one at each wheel and run ARB's. You can use this to control the line locks (pic). Just tap the brakes hit which wheel you want to brake then let off the brake and gas it. If you run just front or rear won't it be harder to piviot that axle with both tires locked ? But with one locked the other tire on that axle can pull if in 4wd, fwd, or rwd. Or just roll if power is going to the opposite axle. Here is a link

http://www.painlesswiring.com/rfcenter.htm

Originally posted by badassjeepguy



cutter, what ever you want to call it.... lock in front power the rear into a donut as the front sits there,

Never seen that before! Sounds very hard on the drive train. :eek: :eek:

Originally posted by badassjeepguy



cutter, what ever you want to call it.... lock in front power the rear into a donut as the front sits there,


AKA easier burn out



Right?

Originally posted by Old Scout


Never seen that before! Sounds very hard on the drive train. :eek: :eek:

He just got something from the UPS man that will let him do fwd or rwd $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. I think my way would work better.

Originally posted by TR



AKA easier burn out



Right?

But with BOTH front or rear tires locked, won't that make it tuffer to swing the rear around (front locked) or pivot the rear around ( rear locked) a gate. Remember he's asking about a comp rig. So thats why the cutting brakes, to make it easier to pivot the thing.

B&M Electric line lock, PN#46075 says shouldn't use for longer then 60 seconds though.
later
bob

Locking the front and trying to power around wont work to well.. never seen anyone do it at any of the calrocs competitions i work for..

What works is locking the rear.. twin sticking to run on the front.. turn the direction you want to go.. and floor it.. or inch it along.. either way..

The front linelock would work great for super swamper burnouts tho :D :D

i saw several people do it and it worked awsome at erocc.... as a matter of fact its on the video.......

anywho, whats th best electric one.......... heard some blowin fuses and such

jc whitney sells a manual push button jobber for like $20. i say give it a try. if for some reason it doesn't work then you have not lost much but if it does then you saved some $$$.just my op.

Originally posted by ImKuNfusED
Locking the front and trying to power around wont work to well.. never seen anyone do it at any of the calrocs competitions i work for..




Then you guys must have some lazy ass spotters :flipoff2:. We lock the front up, I pull sideways on a rope off the rear hook, Buddy lights 'em up. That bitch spins effortlessly while the front stays put.

Originally posted by bigdude



Then you guys must have some lazy ass spotters :flipoff2:. We lock the front up, I pull sideways on a rope off the rear hook, Buddy lights 'em up. That bitch spins effortlessly while the front stays put.


Yea, just watch out for the crowd as your lighting them up. Billy bob might get dirt in his hair and get pissed:D

Originally posted by syko



Yea, just watch out for the crowd as your lighting them up. Billy bob might get dirt in his hair and get pissed:D

That was too funny.

Story:

The judges told everyone to move, I told everyone to move, Buddy (the driver) yelled for everyone to move. 95% of the spectators did except for a few lazy white trash folk, they just stepped back a couple feet. Buddy was in loose dirt and needed to swing the ass around to hit the ledge straight on. Well he cuts the tires hard right , throws it in 2hi, applies some brake pressure, then floors it. Needless to say those guys got peppered. They started to complain and I think more than a few people pointed out that they were asked to move multiple times as they were crowding the course. Won't make that mistake again :laughing:

Originally posted by Scout Dude
I have the cheap one from JC Shitney and I really wouldn't bother with that one..it bleeds down too quick now and it's only a year and a half old.

For a comp rig, you should use the electric ones. If you have a rear selectable locker, then you would lock the inside tire, turn the locker off and then motor around in a tight circle. If you don't have a rear selectable locker, then lock both rears and kick it into front wheel drive only and it should work as well.

Keep in mind: the electric ones are for short duration use. they can overheat the solenoid. Also, for all you rednecks out there that think that a line lock will replace your e-brake: Guess again...they can all easily bleed down. Please use a wheel chock or a rear mechanical e-brake!;)

ditto on that use of a line lock as an E-brake!! that is just plain dangerous. why do you think they are called an E-brake?? it is because if you lose your hydraulic pressure you can us that brake in an emergency.......i have only had to do it once is a buddies commando....PITA but it kept me from creaming a 30ft long dumpster when i couldn't stop!! anyway what happens when you guys with line lock parking brakes rip off a brake line.......URFUKD:flipoff2: :flipoff2:

If you use the line-lock as your only e-brake on a daily driver that's not a good idea, I agree. Line-locks will bleed off over time, yes. This is why I have mine on the front brakes. This combined with the rear manual e-brake will hold my jeep even if my drums are wet. For a trailer queen line-locks are fine. I haven't seen many people running 70mph and having dumpsters jump out in front of them on the trail. If you were to rip a break line off on the trail, don't you have a fullcage tied to the frame with a good harnesses incase something happens? When you do rip a line off,and you will, your brakes don't just go away instantly, You should be smart enough to tell when your having brake problems. If you are having problems you stop where you are and fix it. I would not have a problem putting line-locks all around for an e-brake on a trailer queen. (note: if I break on a bad hill I tie my winch off and stick a rock under the tires so I know the jeep isn't going anywhere)
Also have you ever snagged your ebrake cable on anything?? I have it's not fun.


Just my $.02
Take it or leave it, just don't run over me when you trying to find your e-brake:D

Also think about this. How many of the rigs on this board a truely safe to drive on the road. We are not building stock-cars we are building rock crawlers:)
The very, and I mean very little road time mine sees is local around the house and mine's not half of some of these rigs.

line locks in the trails are sweet.... the reason they are not "legal" as an E brake is due to the fact they run on your same braking system.... which if you have a problem then all brakes are gone..... now how many fools on the street would have spare lines, or the knowledge to crimp the bad one..... answer? very friggin few..... when i get out of my jeep it is turned off and in gear.... so with that and a line loc.......... i dont need a mechanical e brake.....

Originally posted by badassjeepguy
line locks in the trails are sweet.... the reason they are not "legal" as an E brake is due to the fact they run on your same braking system.... which if you have a problem then all brakes are gone..... now how many fools on the street would have spare lines, or the knowledge to crimp the bad one..... answer? very friggin few..... when i get out of my jeep it is turned off and in gear.... so with that and a line loc.......... i dont need a mechanical e brake.....



You redneck:flipoff2: :D

Originally posted by syko




You redneck:flipoff2: :D

why thanks for the compliment..... :D :flipoff2: you better have you junk together as i will be there to heckle/help

i think ill be calling JEGS in the near future for there set up, the same that Lance uses

dont get me wrong....line locks are a great idea but i would rather rely on something mechanical also. i know since i dont plan on going rear disks for a while i will stick with my mechanical e-brake and experiemnt with cutter brakes.


use your line locks for line locks and your e-brake for an e-brake!!

Love my manual mico-lock. It doesn't bleed down that I have noticed. I don't leave it on forever though, that is what a low range granny gear is for ;)

Great theft device too. Flip the lever and leave it like that, someone can drive till they hit the brakes and it is like a one way valve, till no go any more :)

I don't have a cable e-brake..

summit wants 39.95 for the exact same one. plus you wont have to pay shipping

So did you order yo-$hit BAJG??

Originally posted by syko
So did you order yo-$hit BAJG??


not yet but ups is arriving at my house almost on a daily basis, he was here today with more new parts..... thanks to rock equipment of cali

you dont really need front line lock. just engage the rear lock BEFORE you stand on the brakes. viola!

Originally posted by zags
you dont really need front line lock. just engage the rear lock BEFORE you stand on the brakes. viola!

That's a good point, except if you're driving a manual.

So what lock has everybody decided on getting?

J. J.

im gonna go with the summit one.........