: Wheeling "The Hush Hole" *PICS*


bigdude
07-09-2002, 12:03 PM
Finally figured out how to get them off the camera :D This spot is right outside of Travellers Rest, SC and very near to Ken Shupe's Shop where we played on his obstacles a little. The Jeep worked well and felt very stable. A few close calls but it stayed rubber side down. The yellow CJ had some electrical problems which kept us from getting back to Ken's and runing the creek and log climb. Vehicles there were my YJ w/ 38s, Buddy's stretched TJ w/37s, and Mikes CJ w/40s. All running 1-tons.

Shupes
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid25/p4c80b6ec884627488a90f7b89a6c09d4/fd8e67bb.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid25/p371fef37adf808706b3cc2e457a0b73f/fd8e67a5.jpg

Getting to the tougher stuff

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid25/pbabd9a30d4a3cc667e106c72910d9a12/fd8e673e.jpg


The first obstacle (and my girlfriend in a very choppable pic)

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid25/p1d234fc7fb597623a451831252f75cf4/fd8e65e2.jpg

Jakesteramalamajama
07-09-2002, 12:08 PM
Now this thread wasn't just an excuse to show off your hottie girlfriend, was it? :flipoff2: :D

bigdude
07-09-2002, 12:11 PM
No action pics from the first wall because we all got up it quickly :D

Buddy at the second tough spot where wheelbase helped (he's at 106") We hardly had time to get a pic before he climbed it with his 5.9L

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid25/pf1a0a608a64d7509e8afe5bd92511b8e/fd8e6751.jpg


Me coming up to the second wall

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid25/p59b42e8acde8a8859fc2500e702b0654/fd8e671f.jpg

Whoever said a 4-banger couldn't spin 38's was :smokin:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid25/p51b7a1c8038092fb9d9c048e8582c39a/fd8e6725.jpg

Getting there

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid25/p2f5efd0907d293ab47a4d703a57dbd71/fd8e67c1.jpg

And by getting there I mean getting tipsy (found R very quickly here)

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid25/p86e47d43703c104864c052338bbde5cd/fd8e66fc.jpg

bigdude
07-09-2002, 12:21 PM
A little different line and then I broke both Mile Marker Dana 60 locking hubs (that's right with a 4-banger). I also slightly bent my tie-rod and admitted defeat with only one spare hub and 3wd

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid25/pc8604da30361f4dfd8ae7350ce6ab407/fd8e6709.jpg

Mike coming up the second obstacle

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid25/pd97c1de2f3bcf38ad070aeb72da9ded2/fd8e677d.jpg

He was trying but having electrical problems also

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid25/pf6c56a9d77e3f6bf728bcbd6319e1cf6/fd8e6767.jpg

Mike nosing up :D

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid25/p9982c7239c2876ab0a76a022677f4594/fd8e6775.jpg

Here's a little bit of 44044 flex. This pic doesn't do these springs justice but they are VERY flexible

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid25/p3b4c00af754000ad12cdffdf7c2829a8/fd8e679c.jpg

Girlfriend pic (notice the water bottle :D)

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid25/pbd1a20289a932e1efa3fb94dffe99ed1/fd8e65eb.jpg

bigdude
07-09-2002, 12:26 PM
Would've had a lot more pics but with it took us around 4 hours to find the cut wire on Mikes Jeep that was shorting it out. I've since switched to Superwinch Locking Hubs and will STRONGLY urge everyone to avoid buying lock-outs from Mile Marker. They are junk. The Jeep did well though and I'm going to give hte building a rest and wheel it (with the exception of the cage) :beer: So to those who said I'm only good for parking lot and spotter pictures :flipoff2:

syko
07-09-2002, 12:32 PM
I can't believe it, you actually wheel.!!!!!! All this time I just thought you were a poser:D:flipoff2:;)

Old Scout
07-09-2002, 12:33 PM
What kind of tire pressure were you running? No bulge and you have locks?

syko
07-09-2002, 12:33 PM
Was that the maiden voyage???

bigdude
07-09-2002, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by Old Scout
What kind of tire pressure were you running? No bulge and you have locks?

I was at 9lbs all around. I may go a little lower in the future but they bulge at 9lbs, the pics just don't do it justice. You can see it here if you look at the driver's side front

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid25/p2f5efd0907d293ab47a4d703a57dbd71/fd8e67c1.jpg

bigdude
07-09-2002, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by syko
Was that the maiden voyage???

That was poppin the cherry :D Just had some driveway miles before that and it stayed together ;)

Welby
07-09-2002, 12:48 PM
'Bout time you get some dirt on that thing :D :flipoff2:

syko
07-09-2002, 12:48 PM
So when are you going to build a cage??

TyTy
07-09-2002, 12:53 PM
Lookin good there!

Sucks about the hubs, looks like a fun spot to go to!

You're ready for EROCC then right?:D:D:D

SeaBass44
07-09-2002, 02:28 PM
Originally posted by bigdude
.......... I've since switched to Superwinch Locking Hubs and will STRONGLY urge everyone to avoid buying lock-outs from Mile Marker. They are junk. .....:

pretty sure the Superwinch hubs are real crap:( nice looking rig....at 9lbs you don't need beadlocks:flipoff2:

BornInAJeep
07-09-2002, 02:36 PM
looks good. I would go with slugs in the front, at the very least warn premiums.

XtremeJeep
07-09-2002, 02:38 PM
Originally posted by syko
I can't believe it, you actually wheel.!!!!!! All this time I just thought you were a poser:D:flipoff2:;)

LOL! I was thinking more of a keyboard tough guy. Nice rig even with the 4 banger :flipoff2:

4Bangler
07-09-2002, 02:42 PM
More proof that 4 bangers kick arse! I love my 5.38:1's with 7.05:1 first and 35's, but 38's, wow, that's a lot of rubber to get moving, you must have a K&N on that 2.5

Bonestripper
07-09-2002, 02:43 PM
Damm I thought you you’d be bigger

Cute GF though so maybe the name means something else.......

Nice junk you got there BD

CaptainFleXJ151
07-09-2002, 03:22 PM
I love the gold mailbox lettering on the 106" TJ. Just above the stock "wrangler" sticker. It goes nicely with the skyjacker springs.

bigdude
07-09-2002, 06:11 PM
Originally posted by SeaBass44


pretty sure the Superwinch hubs are real crap:( nice looking rig....at 9lbs you don't need beadlocks:flipoff2:

Superwinch D60 hubs are tough shit. We've run them behind that 5.9L in the TJ for two comps and only broken one. The reason that one broke was because the 30 spline stub literally exploded :eek: I don't know about them for other axles but for 30 spline 60s they can take a beating.

bigdude
07-09-2002, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by 4Bangler
More proof that 4 bangers kick arse! I love my 5.38:1's with 7.05:1 first and 35's, but 38's, wow, that's a lot of rubber to get moving, you must have a K&N on that 2.5

It's an automatic, huge difference :D

bigdude
07-09-2002, 06:16 PM
Originally posted by CaptainFleXJ151
I love the gold mailbox lettering on the 106" TJ. Just above the stock "wrangler" sticker. It goes nicely with the skyjacker springs.

That's our number for COMPETITIONS dumb shit. I guess you fab up your own coil springs huh? :shaking: I hope you weren't seriously talking shit about that rig :eek: Unless your finishing top ten it'll spank what you're wheeling any day of the week.

bigdude
07-09-2002, 06:18 PM
Originally posted by Bonestripper
Damm I thought you you’d be bigger



I am, pics just don't do it justice :D

BornInAJeep
07-09-2002, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by bigdude


That's our number for COMPETITIONS dumb shit. I guess you fab up your own coil springs huh? :shaking: I hope you weren't seriously talking shit about that rig :eek: Unless your finishing top ten it'll spank what you're wheeling any day of the week.

:laughing: you don't ease up for a second.

bigdude
07-09-2002, 06:23 PM
Originally posted by BornInAJeep


:laughing: you don't ease up for a second.

Mof@ckers bedda recognize :laughing:

BornInAJeep
07-09-2002, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by bigdude


Mof@ckers bedda recognize :laughing:

no doubt

BornInAJeep
07-09-2002, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by bigdude


I am, pics just don't do it justice :D


he's on the right

FULLSIZE
07-09-2002, 06:36 PM
I am, pics just don't do it justice I may go a little lower in the future but they bulge at 9lbs, the pics just don't do it justice This pic doesn't do these springs justice sure seems to be alot of INJUSTICE in your pics.:flipoff2:

FULLSIZE
07-09-2002, 06:36 PM
nice rig, looks like you guys had some fun. :D :beer:

XtremeJeep
07-09-2002, 06:42 PM
Originally posted by BornInAJeep



he's on the right


:laughing::laughing:
You know he is going to post his famous picture I am the guy pointing :D

Its all good!


BigDude you arent letting them get to you are ya? Seen you spank a few around about peeps jeeps. Someone comments on one of the rigs you compete with and you a' jumping on his neck.
:D

Jeepmangled87
07-09-2002, 06:51 PM
Time for some 42's :flipoff2:

Travis Waldher
07-09-2002, 07:04 PM
Originally posted by SeaBass44


pretty sure the Superwinch hubs are real crap:( nice looking rig....at 9lbs you don't need beadlocks:flipoff2:

No kidding... I run 4-5 psi with no locks on 36" SX and 15x8 wheels. he was still nearly aired up.

SeaBass44
07-09-2002, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by bigdude


Superwinch D60 hubs are tough shit. We've run them behind that 5.9L in the TJ for two comps and only broken one. The reason that one broke was because the 30 spline stub literally exploded :eek: I don't know about them for other axles but for 30 spline 60s they can take a beating.

cool, I'm thinking of D44's:)

SeaBass44
07-09-2002, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by bigdude


Mof@ckers bedda recognize :laughing: word :D :D :D

Minehunter
07-09-2002, 10:02 PM
Bigdude, if thats what you've been spending my lunch money on I'm gonna kick your ass!!

Nice rig- looks like a pretty cool place to wheel-

I think my ride could make it over the pavers!

Great picts

Later

Kirk

Bigburlynakedguy
07-09-2002, 10:48 PM
9lbs, thats highway pressure!

Two words, leg workout, cluck cluck.


:flipoff2:

Sillyneck
07-10-2002, 12:41 AM
enough wheelin' more girl friend pics :D

Roguedude
07-10-2002, 03:36 AM
Originally posted by Sillyneck
enough wheelin' more girl friend pics :D

:beer: I couldn't agree more:beer::)

moveaside
07-10-2002, 05:01 AM
That's a big boy for such a small gal don't break her:laughing: Nice pics you look so serious. So much injustice in the pics huh:question:Relax brother their good pics but as much as you blast I'd say you got off easy. No photo chopping yet either(hint hint Kidwired). :flipoff2:

bigdude
07-10-2002, 05:09 AM
Originally posted by Jeepmangled87
Time for some 42's :flipoff2:

:laughing: Not with 4 angry squirrels :laughing:

Next time I'll air down some more. Jeez first trip out with it and you guys are as rough as always. I like it :D

I have some beach pics but we're a little pale in them so I don't know if I should post one up :D

4Bangler
07-10-2002, 06:08 AM
I think everyone here secretly knows all about photo injustice, why is it that hill never look as steep, rocks (or hooters for that matter) never look as big, and carnage never looks as cool in the pictures or video as it does in real life? Makes you really think about some of the kick ass action shots you see once in a while in the magazines, you know the ones, the ones that make you bunghole pucker up just seeing them on paper, image what it must have been like in person. We've got a big sand dune part here in Michigan, and there are some steep mo fo hills in it, but the sand provide no definition, so the pictures all look like your'e on almost flat ground, even if you cheat and lean into the hill to make it look steeper, it's no good.

Minehunter
07-10-2002, 06:52 AM
ok, so now on this tread the hills are much bigger- well dam it, the hills I was on were near vertical. No in fact they were vertical- straight fucking up, as a matter of fact- they were......
http://cetrov.com/millerjeeptrail/Dsc02614.jpg

matter of fact- if you stopped driving the jeep would not stay in place- just rolled down the mountain-

http://cetrov.com/millerjeeptrail/Dsc02588.jpg

I know- pictures never do it justice.

4Bangler
07-10-2002, 07:29 AM
Hmmm, the inclinometer really adds a lot to those pics, but I think they would look steep even with out it, makes for a nice shot though, too bad your windsheild was up and so dirty, but oh well, nice pics.

Here's what I'm talking about, this hill was steep enough to only see hood from the driver's seat, but it looks like flat ground in the pic...

http://www.thunderbayoffroaders.rockcrawler.com/images/blklk6.jpg

...damn my Jeep looked :rainbow: two year ago (first incarnation, back when it was just the DD)

And here's another, this sand dune is friggin steep!, and yet it looks like a parking lot in the pic.

http://www.thunderbayoffroaders.rockcrawler.com/images/dune6.jpg

Okay, here's a couple that look steep, but you can't even stand on the side of this gravel pile without sliding down it.

http://www.thunderbayoffroaders.rockcrawler.com/images/county04.jpg http://www.thunderbayoffroaders.rockcrawler.com/images/county01.jpg

Side hill seems to show pretty good...

http://www.thunderbayoffroaders.rockcrawler.com/images/glad08.jpg

LAME
07-10-2002, 07:42 AM
DOesn't look all that steep in the pic.....

LAME
07-10-2002, 07:43 AM
Other side with a different Jeep

Travis Waldher
07-10-2002, 07:43 AM
LOL.. inclinomete that only goes to 30 degrees. :laughing:

Come back when you are running 45-70+ degrees. :flipoff2:

Minehunter
07-10-2002, 08:09 AM
Originally posted by twaldher
LOL.. inclinomete that only goes to 30 degrees. :laughing:

Come back when you are running 45-70+ degrees. :flipoff2:

.02 CENTS for a paint brush and paint- I don't design them but I can add to them-
I think they make them like that because they don't want you to tip- they'd be sued if it went to 50 degrees and you crashed-
I'm sure it is a anti lawsuite issue- you know how people can be, free money anyway they can.

anyway - it was a post to show how the angle of the hill doesn't seem as steep in a picture- not a "look at my inclinometer" picture. I don't see your shots

Hey, post a picture of your 75 degree inclinometer- this I wanna see- :flipoff2:

4Bangler
07-10-2002, 08:27 AM
Yeah, somebody should make a full dial inclinometer, I'm sure some aviation guages are available, or, how about one with a max angle memory, like memory tach, oh yeah, and an ajustable "redline" so every time my girl goes "oh my god you asshole!" I can say, "See! We're not even close to going over, okay, we're getting close, oh, hold on, (crash) sorry honey, let be get that ammo can off you, are you okay?"

Seems like Currie could get $150 for one of those.

broncorob
07-10-2002, 09:37 AM
Why fawk with wannabe hubs. Just get Warn Premiums and never buy another set.

bigdude
07-10-2002, 09:51 AM
Originally posted by broncorob
Why fawk with wannabe hubs. Just get Warn Premiums and never buy another set.

How many sets of

SUPERWINCH D60

have you seen broken braniac??? I'm waiting for your reply :shaking:

snobrder
07-10-2002, 10:08 AM
Hey bigdude, this is Mike. Buddy told me you were on here so I wanted let you know you can see some of our pics from the Hush Hole. I'll try to upload some of the pics and the mpeg videos to my Yahoo area tonight, then supply a link so you can take a look.

I have to agree that those springs are great. The ride up Kens rock pile was real smooth... the video from it looks pretty good also.

Mike C

broncorob
07-10-2002, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by bigdude


How many sets of

SUPERWINCH D60

have you seen broken braniac??? I'm waiting for your reply :shaking:

ONE BIATCH ON MY FIRST RUN WITH THEM

Ok, enough with the yelling. I didn't feel like wading thru the 2 pages of crap I just wanted to give my .02, but I left out why. Sorry.
Do you really think that the superwinch hubs are better or are you trying to save a couple of bucks or you just don't want the warns because everyone else has them. I never really thought there was a question that they were stronger than everything else. I skimped when I swapped in my D60 because I thought there was no way I could break any hubs or Ujoints because they were so big. I was wrong and warns kick ass

bigdude
07-10-2002, 10:15 AM
Originally posted by broncorob


ONE BIATCH ON MY FIRST RUN WITH THEM

Ok, enough with the yelling. I didn't feel like wading thru the 2 pages of crap I just wanted to give my .02, but I left out why. Sorry.

No problem. Just tired of the sheeple who constantly believe "Warn, because everybody else says so".

We've broken them by smashing the faces on rocks, and shattered a 30spline stub to take one out. But other than that we've never ruined the innards.

What are the specs on the rig and how did it break?

broncorob
07-10-2002, 10:23 AM
It's a 94 bronco so it is big and heavy. I came off a rock on lower 2 at Tellico and blew a ujoint. It was a major fluke that the ujoint blew. i must have installed it wrong. After I changed the joint out the wheel still wouldn't turn so I pulled the hub apart and metal pieces fell all over the ground. You should be able to blow an axle and not damage the hub. There was no damage to the cap of the hub or the axle inside the hub

IndyCJ
07-10-2002, 10:25 AM
Originally posted by bigdude


No problem. Just tired of the sheeple who constantly believe "Warn, because everybody else says so".

We've broken them by smashing the faces on rocks, and shattered a 30spline stub to take one out. But other than that we've never ruined the innards.

What are the specs on the rig and how did it break?

WARN! :flipoff2:

:D

Rig looks sweet BD! You gonna bring it to the show and shine at ERoCC's? :D

Speaking of which, what is it, like 2.5 weeks away? SWEET! I am so there. :D

bigdude
07-10-2002, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by broncorob
It's a 94 bronco so it is big and heavy. I came off a rock on lower 2 at Tellico and blew a ujoint. It was a major fluke that the ujoint blew. i must have installed it wrong. After I changed the joint out the wheel still wouldn't turn so I pulled the hub apart and metal pieces fell all over the ground. You should be able to blow an axle and not damage the hub. There was no damage to the cap of the hub or the axle inside the hub

Stub could've incurred a radical load when the u-joint blew causing the hub to bust. I just don't think you should judge a hub for breaking when your D60 u-joint broke at the same time. Just like I'm not saying the hub should've held when our stub shaft exploded.

broncorob
07-10-2002, 11:30 AM
It's hard to explain the pieces inside that broke, but if you take a hub apart you will see the 2 sets of teeth that engage each other. Those are what sheered off. There was no other damage to anything other than the ujoint. The splines were fine and the ears weren't damaged at all. In fact I'm still running that shaft. I'm in no way saying any hub is indestructable, but this thing came apart like it was plastic. Of course the stub incurred a radical load when the ujoint blew. That's what spun the hub. I'm saying I think a warn would have held up. From my experience I've never seen a warn premium do that, but I have seen a milemarker and a superwinch. Those hubs may work fine for you. But again, do you really think those hubs are better or just cheaper? I think the consensus is they are the best next to slugs. Since you are running comps I would think you'd want the best. :beer:

bigdude
07-10-2002, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by broncorob
Of course the stub incurred a radical load when the ujoint blew. That's what spun the hub. I'm saying I think a warn would have held up. From my experience I've never seen a warn premium do that, but I have seen a milemarker and a superwinch. Those hubs may work fine for you. But again, do you really think those hubs are better or just cheaper? I think the consensus is they are the best next to slugs. Since you are running comps I would think you'd want the best. :beer:

You said you *think* it would've held up. My point is that somehow or another you balled up enough force to blow a D60 joint. That's not easy to do so I wouldn't discount the hub at all for letting go in that situation only.

I think Superwinch is cheaper than MM and Warn. I think they're as tough as Warn because I've never seen one just break outright. Apparently you haven't either because when yours broke the U-joint blew also (and could've/did caused the hub to fail). Have you blown a U-joint on your 60 with a Warn before and it held up? If that's the case then I fully understand how you can say Warn is better.

We have a set of slugs for competition spares. We like to run lockouts because w/ a Detroit it allows us to unlock the hubs for whatever reason (tight corners, etc.). We said we'd run the slugs if we had breakage problems w/ Superwinch. We haven't, that's my point. Slugs are only the best if your breaking your current stuff, just like Warns are only so much better if you've had them live through the same situation that killed another hub. Have you had that happen on your D60 yet?

broncorob
07-10-2002, 12:24 PM
Whatever man, I said that it was a fluke when the joint went because it went so easily. This discussion has become pointless we each have our own opinions and we won't convince the other of it. So, I digress. I hope the Superwinch hub holds up for you
:beer:

bigdude
07-10-2002, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by broncorob
Whatever man, I said that it was a fluke when the joint went because it went so easily. This discussion has become pointless we each have our own opinions and we won't convince the other of it. So, I digress. I hope the Superwinch hub holds up for you
:beer:

:beer: to you too.

So you haven't had a Warn live through the same thing then? Then really you shouldn't compare :D

I've had a Superwinch live though what broke both my Milemarkers (cranking the wheel into the ground with vehicle weigh on it, off camber, and gassing it) I've seen Superwinch and Warn both hold up equally in competition and trail riding (no breaks), so that's where I'm coming from.

B.A.R.K
07-10-2002, 01:25 PM
Originally posted by bigdude


It's an automatic, huge difference :D

i might be missing something big but ive driven an auto 2.5 and it was a slug, there is no way that the first gear in that auto is lower than the 1st in my AX-5, i know the auto is a 3 speed but sheesh, is ur auto different because you dont lose momentum while shifting, a buddy of mine wheels with an auto but it is a 4.0 XJ

ashmanjeepXJ
07-10-2002, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by 4Bangler
Yeah, somebody should make a full dial inclinometer, I'm sure some aviation guages are available, or, how about one with a max angle memory, like memory tach, oh yeah, and an ajustable "redline" so every time my girl goes "oh my god you asshole!" I can say, "See! We're not even close to going over, okay, we're getting close, oh, hold on, (crash) sorry honey, let be get that ammo can off you, are you okay?"

Seems like Currie could get $150 for one of those.


Bwhaaaahaaahaaaa,

thats great stuff, it brought a tear to my eye.

LMAO :D


Oh yea, Looks good Big dude.

bigdude
07-10-2002, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by YJ_Swamper


i might be missing something big but ive driven an auto 2.5 and it was a slug, there is no way that the first gear in that auto is lower than the 1st in my AX-5, i know the auto is a 3 speed but sheesh, is ur auto different because you dont lose momentum while shifting, a buddy of mine wheels with an auto but it is a 4.0 XJ

Yep you missed something. It's called a "torque converter". It doubles the raw first gear ratio in autos and also means that I don't have to pop a clutch to start, can ease on the throttle, can power brake like a fool.

It's no highway gem. 5.13s and this thing in 4lo, it spins them fine. My Jeep is only 3700lbs so that helps also. If I had the $$$ it would be gone w/o a doubt. But for now it works just fine and I'm not in a hurry to change it. Ask your buddy if you can drive his auto a little while through the tough stuff and you'll see why I say it makes a huge difference (regardless of the engine)

snobrder
07-10-2002, 06:00 PM
I can't get the videos to show up, but here is the link. http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/snobrder

Look in the OFFROAD folder, there are a couple of pics of the first rock pile at the Hush Hole...

Mike C

High5
07-10-2002, 06:11 PM
i don't know about dana60 hubs but the superwinch hubs i ran on my old dana44 were the weak link. i only broke 1 297 in that dana44 but i broke quite a few superwinch hubs. that wasn't necessarily a bad theing. the superwinch hubs had a life time waranty so when one let go all i had to do was take it back to 4 wheel parts and get a new one. easy to replace and was cheaper. i had two full sets so i had spares and like i said when one breaks take it back. now on my d60 i am running the stocker hubs that came on it. i have not broken one yet.

moveaside
07-10-2002, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by bigdude
Finally figured out how to get them off the camera :D This spot is right outside of Travellers Rest, SC and very near to Ken Shupe's Shop where we played on his obstacles a little. The Jeep worked well and felt very stable. A few close calls but it stayed rubber side down. The yellow CJ had some electrical problems which kept us from getting back to Ken's and runing the creek and log climb. Vehicles there were my YJ w/ 38s, Buddy's stretched TJ w/37s, and Mikes CJ w/40s. All running 1-tons.

Shupes
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid25/p4c80b6ec884627488a90f7b89a6c09d4/fd8e67bb.jpg

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid25/p371fef37adf808706b3cc2e457a0b73f/fd8e67a5.jpg

Getting to the tougher stuff

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid25/pbabd9a30d4a3cc667e106c72910d9a12/fd8e673e.jpg


The first obstacle (and my girlfriend in a very choppable pic)

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid25/p1d234fc7fb597623a451831252f75cf4/fd8e65e2.jpg Well back to the pics hey big dude check out the second pic what would happen if you guys rolled and your hand was on that bar. Happened to a buddy of mine he got left behind dog jumped in his lap lost it flipped and got his hand stuck under the bar. Couldn't get it out and sat there for over an hour with the dog licking his face. Just something to think about;)Or is that your buddy?

bigdude
07-11-2002, 05:01 AM
Originally posted by MOVEASIDE
Just something to think about;)Or is that your buddy?

I can't really keep an eye on a passenger while I'm spinning them through rocks. All I can say is that he's an experienced off-roader who I think would know to pull it in if instability arose.

Welby
07-11-2002, 05:30 AM
Originally posted by bigdude


I can't really keep an eye on a passenger while I'm spinning them through rocks. All I can say is that he's an experienced off-roader who I think would know to pull it in if instability arose.


And the odds of your Jeep flopping to the right when you're leaning to the left, with no apparent (from what I see in the pic) flop concerns ahead, are slim to none. Plus if trouble popped up, it would take all of .1 seconds to get his hand the fawk out of the way :D . Funny about the dog licking his face for an hour though..

*Back to the armor-all now :flipoff2:

4Bangler
07-11-2002, 05:33 AM
The first time I rolled my junk was into an embankment on the drivers side, nice and slow, through a really off camber section, and she just flopped over, but anyway, when she went over, I actually stuck my hand out to try to stop it, just reflex, luckily it was only 2' to the embankment, so no damage to me or the Jeep, as a matter of fact, I was heading down a rather steep ravine and was able to just let the clutch out and crank the wheel into the embankment to get the Jeep on all fours. It's amazing how stupid you can be when react without thinking. The next time was a little more severe onto the passenger side, and I grabbed my girlfriend's hands as we went over to keep her from making the same mistake. Now she gets nervous if I get flexed up on a parkign curb, hence the need for a full dial inclinometer with a "redline"

snobrder
07-11-2002, 07:37 AM
That was me in the pass side... and like BD said, I would pull my arm in before we had a chance to do anything close to rolling. I've been off roading for close to 16 years and never have tried to put my arm out when I start to lay it over, guess I just never got in the habit. Usually if I start over, I just lean the center of the Jeep. It may be something people just do and don't think about it because I know of 2 people that, no matter how many times I chew them out for it, still do it.

I've seen plenty of arms and fingers crushed from roll overs, but they ain't ever going to be mine...

B.A.R.K
07-11-2002, 08:20 AM
Originally posted by bigdude


My Jeep is only 3700lbs so that helps also.

have you put your rig on a scale recently, i thought 3700 was the weight of a stock YJ, i found that info in a flat towing post in Gen. 4x4, is yours gutted(no clue what you could yank out of a YJ), a buddy of mine is going to use his 35 foot goose neck to pull a buddy of mines YJ and my YJ with 4 squirrels on steroids to Cincade, LA and he was wondering about weight, you rig is farrrrrrrrrr from stock so shoot back at me with yourinfo on the scale, or are you just GUESTAMATING :confused:

bigdude
07-11-2002, 08:45 AM
Originally posted by YJ_Swamper


have you put your rig on a scale recently, you rig is farrrrrrrrrr from stock so shoot back at me with yourinfo on the scale, or are you just GUESTAMATING :confused:


That is on a certified scale at the junkyard when I had a full tank of gas and light spares (u-joints, straps, rear shaft). They even offered me a certified receipt. I then got in and it weighed 3930 and I'm 230 on every scale I can find so I trust them.

From stock I have lost the following items
-Doors
-Roof
-Back seat
-Track-bars
-Spare tire
-Spare tire carrier
-All my fenders
-Carpet (:D)
-Bumperettes (:flipoff2:)
-half of the front bumper (:flipoff2:)

I don't know what my Jeep weighed stock so I can't tell you the difference. Did you really think I would spend 3 months in the garage building this thing and not be so curious about weight that I took it out for a check as soon as it was done?

biggreenjeep
07-12-2002, 12:55 PM
230??? that's not that big!! Unless of course you are only 4' 11" when you get out of that jeep. Then that would be considered BIG. J/K :flipoff2:

bigdude
07-12-2002, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by biggreenjeep
230??? that's not that big!!

It's plenty big when you're not a lard ass :flipoff2:

BornInAJeep
07-12-2002, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by biggreenjeep
230??? that's not that big!! Unless of course you are only 4' 11" when you get out of that jeep. Then that would be considered BIG. J/K :flipoff2:

standard response

atv71
07-14-2002, 09:27 AM
i live in charlotte nc, and was wondering where those trails are...i was able to find travelers rest on a map search, would anyone help with the details, much thanks in advance.

aaron(atv71)

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snobrder
07-14-2002, 09:38 AM
We could tell you but we would have to kill you ;)
jk

Go just past the Hwy 11 overpass on Hwy 25. Take a right and look for a red, white and blue sign on the right. Turn right there...

If you are heading that way, let me know and I may be able to meet you.

Mike C

themaddhatter
07-14-2002, 02:07 PM
back to the original pix....

more gf pix? :D