I ahve noticed a couple of folks saying they had a corporate 14 bolt that came stock with a 6 on 5.50 bolt pattern. I know tht duallies came with a 14b that was 63" but that is all I know.

where is everyone getting a 14B with 6 lugs? I just spent alot of money on bead locks for a 6 on 5.50 bolt pattern and don't want to have to buy new rims. also my front axle is from a SJ and is 61.5" WMS to WMS so a rear 63" diff woun't be bad. I don't want to run full width axles just yet.

so my question is what vehicle had a 14B with 6 lugs and was 63" WMS to WMs???


PS: yep I searched.

None of the FF 14 bolts came 6 lug. You can have the hubs machined down and redrilled to 6 lug.

I think the only SF14 bolts were 67" wide

"what vehicle had a 14B with 6 lugs and was 63" WMS to WMs??? "

None.

The 63" 14 Bolt came in Cab & Chassis duallies, motorhomes, box vans, wreckers, etc. and those are all 8-lug

The 6-lug semi-floater 14 bolt, often called a pregnant 12 bolt is a totally different axle, available in heavy half and light 3/4 ton trucks, '88 and newer (IFS) it's a c-clip axle, with not many choices for lockers, a good swap into a 1/2 ton IFS chevy truck or Blazer, to replace a 10-bolt, but not good for much else.

Originally posted by 4Bangler

The 6-lug semi-floater 14 bolt, often called a pregnant 12 bolt is a totally different axle, available in heavy half and light 3/4 ton trucks, '88 and newer (IFS) it's a c-clip axle, with not many choices for lockers, a good swap into a 1/2 ton IFS chevy truck or Blazer, to replace a 10-bolt, but not good for much else.

interesting....so this would not be a good swap into a YJ then.

are the carriers (ie lockers) interchangeable from the 14B to this 14B? how much is different on these.

actually I think I may have answered my question already. if the 6 lug is c clip then there is no way a locker from a 14B with 8 lugs or FF would fit then right?

Yup, the SF 14 bolt is a totally different axle, the only thing they share is the number of bolts holding the cover on. Nope, not a good swap into a YJ. What 6-lugger do you have now? If you're breaking a six lug flanged dana 44 or AMC 20 out of a FSJ, then it's time for something custom. Some early J-trucks came with a 5-lug flanged semi-float Dana 60 that is the right width, and you could redrill it to 6 lug. Redrilling a FF 14 bolt would be nearly impossible, the center would have to be turned down to fit in your wheel, PITA, big time.

breaking a 6 lug rear dana 44 out of a 88 wagoneer. I just thought that if I could find a 14B (since they are 1 ton :) ) that was 63" it would be perfect.

looks like I am jsut going to have to have a 14B or D60 cut down to the length I want.

what makes a good canidate for this? I want to keep 6 lugs b/c of the rims.

everything is different on these axles, even the ring gear size.

What are you breaking on the 44? If you're trashing R&P's, time for a 60, or a better gear guy, if you're snapping shafts, time for a 60, or, dare I say it, I'm not sure if I want to, a uh..... ssssssuuuuper 44 kit??? I would look for a Kaiser era J-truck SF 60 rear and redrill it for 6-lug, I'm not sure if the shafts will be much stronger than the 44 though.

it's the shafts. I think I have already gotten all the spare shafts from the pull a parts in the area. so I need to jsut look for a new axle I guess.

why woulnd't the axles be much stronger in the old J trucks?

Actually you can convert a FF 14B to 6 lug. A guy on the board named Donovan does it.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7877

He turns down the flange and the hub a little and drills the 6 lug pattern. You have to use aftermarket wheels, center hole in the stocker is too small, but it sounds like you already have those.

Well then there you go, find a C&C ff 14 bolt and get with that guy, if it will work for 6 on 5.5, it should work for 5 on 5.5 too, hmmm....maybe I won't build a FF 9" with 1/2 ton front hubs and rotors....

What size tire are you running? I have gone thru a few D44 axle shaft with my 35's. How much stronger are alloy shafts? I dont plan on going any larger than 36's on my D44's, but I'm wondering if aftermarket alloy shafts would be strong "enough"?
Any thoughts?

-Jeremy

Oh yeah, I think the old J-truck dana 60 shafts are 30 spline, same as your Dana 44, but they might have bigger bearings, I don't know, the only 60 I have is an old Chevy truck rear with the stupid 10 spline ff shafts

Originally posted by 4Bangler
Oh yeah, I think the old J-truck dana 60 shafts are 30 spline, same as your Dana 44, but they might have bigger bearings, I don't know, the only 60 I have is an old Chevy truck rear with the stupid 10 spline ff shafts

The rare SF60 J-truck rear end was 35 spline.

The FF hubs can be turned down and redrilled to fit 5 or 6 lug. Not a major ordeal. Donovan does it and so does Grady at Grady's Extreme Offroad.

Well then, if you can find one, the J-truck 60 might be the ticket, anyone positve on the width? Seems the flanged 60 would be easier to drill to 6-lug than the 14 bolt.