I dropped my 205 off at the machine shop before I left for vacation and went in to pick it up yesterday. I needed the input shaft bearing's hole bored out to make room for the bearing and shaft for the 205 that goes with a TH400. Anyway, I was cleaning it all up today and getting ready to put it together when I notice that they OVERCUT the size of the hole and sleeved it with about a 1/16" sleeve. So, the bearing goes in sleeve, the sleeve and bearing go in the case. Now, the bearing retainer ring is wide enough to keep the bearing from walking out toward the front, but there is nothing that will keep the sleeve from walking out backward and into the case.

My question is: is this thing fawked?? Do I need to go we my $137.50 back and collect for a new 205 and then find someone else to do it asap? Or should I just gnurl it up and run it the way it is?

seems to me that they fawked it up and should do what you need. if they dont then make it work for you and demand that when you get another case they do it right for no charge

can ya tack weld it

THATS FAWKED.......WHERE DID YOU TAKE IT???ILL REMEMBER NEVER TO GO THERE...:mad:

So far, my plan is to take it to them in the morning. I doubt it could be welded cause it's so thin and is steel shim and cast case. I may just tell him I'll run it for now but make him fix another case for free later. I mean he's a good guy and has always given me good deals until this. I was figuring it would be up to $75 but he nailed me for $137.50. Ouch.

The good news is I found a place that sells 2x.250 DOM for $5.53/ft. CHEAP!!! I only bought a little cause I have other plans for my link. I'm going to use 1.5" solid sleeved with 1.75x.120 plug welded in places and with some verticle braces in place. Probably about 100lbs each. I'll use the 2" DOM only where I use the Wrangler bushings. Should be nice and strong :D :D

If the sleeve is a tight press-fit, I doubt if it will ever come out under use, especially with the expansion from running it at operating temperature.

I'd still be concerned of failure if it was me, so I'd probably go have a talk with the shop that did the work.

1/16" steel is much stronger than 1/16 cast, remember they sleeve engine blocks (right).

Rich

a good welder can tack weld that shim to the bearing shell.

have them drill and tap about 12, 1/4-20 or smaller set screws in it so that the screw is in the sleeve and the case. If you do that it will never come out. Also, you could have them step the sleeve so that it is captured and cannot come out, which is what they may have already done.


Bottom line is that they should have never made that mistake in the first place. I bored mine out in about 30 minutes, it should not take any longer than an hour tops. That is a very simple job, that takes very little set up time. The actual machining can be done in about 20 min. even if you are very carefull to make the fit perfect.

JSSN: The point you made about the expansion is only true if the parent metal expands less than the sleeve material. I doubt if they are very different even if they used regular carbon steel for the sleeve. When the case expands the sleeve will expand at approximately the same rate.


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I wish they had crumped the ends so it stays put, but it comes out with the bearing. I like the idea of tacking it to the bearing though.

Any, as said, the bottom line is it should not have happened :(

The sleeve should not be tacked to the bearing for any reason! It needs to be tacked to the Housing only, If the bearing is loose in the housing then it can be loctited if necessary. :eek:

Originally posted by bgreen
The sleeve should not be tacked to the bearing for any reason! It needs to be tacked to the Housing only, If the bearing is loose in the housing then it can be loctited if necessary. :eek:

Now that's a good idea. Off to the machine shop to see what he says.