gpjeep
03-18-2008, 07:29 PM
Mild 350 with holley Projection and TH350.
153 tooth flexplate 86 block
dual battery kit with new batterys
big bulky starter with painless hot shot kit
When I crank the jeep when cold or even driving around town it cranks fine. When I get in the woods and everything gets hot it acts like the battery is dead while cranking and is incapable of being jumped off. after 20 mins or so it will start just fine. The distributer can be adjusted for timing no difference
What gives
mobilemech
03-18-2008, 07:35 PM
sounds like a bad starter.
gpjeep
03-18-2008, 07:45 PM
tried that no difference
I am leaning towards a ministarter but hate to keep throwing money at it
poorboy1
03-18-2008, 07:50 PM
are you running headers that run close to the starter. Might be cooking the starter.
Grumpy_old_fart
03-18-2008, 07:51 PM
doesnt sound like a bad starter.
it does sound like a couple electrical issues.
a solenoid that is affected by temperature could cause that. how close is the header or exhaust?
a small wire to the starter could cause it, if the wire shows a lot of resistance or a long lead is used.
check connections at soleniods, battery, and starter.
run a ought guage battery cable... also known as welding lead.
mobilemech
03-18-2008, 11:08 PM
on your hot shot kit where is the relay/solinoid located? you may have heat sink in the electrcal as grumpy has pointed to.
Grumpy_old_fart
03-18-2008, 11:17 PM
take the solenoid apart, and swap the terminals 1/2 turn, and bolt it back together. this will ensure a good connection.
check for binding on the return spring.
mobilemech
03-18-2008, 11:35 PM
if he swapped starters and the problem is still there then it seems like it would be before the starter, check wireing for the hot shot kit and all the cable ends.
Urban Wheeler
03-19-2008, 04:55 AM
Sounds to me like you need a heat shield over the starter.
bigchevytruckdriver
03-19-2008, 01:30 PM
Sounds to me like you need a heat shield over the starter.
x2
gpjeep
03-19-2008, 06:23 PM
I tried a insulating blanket but i will take that off and try just a shield. The headers are headman engine swap shorties and are pretty close to the s?tarter. Could i run a remote solenoid of some sort like I've seen on big blocks
Bansheestu
03-19-2008, 11:25 PM
when you are having this problem, try doing voltage drops on both the power and ground sides. If you have a speedo with that is cable driven, do you happen to notice the speedo jumping around when this problem is taking place?
Grumpy_old_fart
03-20-2008, 01:03 AM
a heat shield wont fix it.
get a good solenoid.
if you think a 9 dollar solenoid is good, then youre thinking too cheap.