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This is what the rig looked like when I picked it up Jan 2001 Not POR material

Let's see the pics of your rigs before the work began

Hey it looks good there :D You still got the same seat covers! ;)

Originally posted by mike
Hey it looks good there :D You still got the same seat covers! ;)

The seat covers are the best part, they make me go fast:p

With those High horsepower seatcovers we need to paint your front brake calipers yellow to stock that speeding hunk of steel.

I can probably gather enough cardboard to make a huge wing to make it look cool and provide down draft to keep that beast on the ground.

Oh..yeah...you guys want a laugh? This is when I originally bought mine...around '95.

This was right after I got rid of the sport top, and right before the first axle swaps. Still have the same tires though :barf:

Freshly harvested from the field.......
http://www.mo-4xtoys.com/torc/tetanus/Images/Project%20Assmnt/P0000091.JPG

I just picked this up as is

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid24/pf106ef1f1c4cfde98230f09d8be6e84d/fd933b58.jpg

and this is the pickup the day I got it its alot biger now and 4WD

http://68ihtruck.homestead.com/files/Truck_10.jpg

Hmm.. "Tigger" a few months after I bought it..

http://www.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout/jpg/gray/34GRAY4.JPG
http://www.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout/jpg/300/77outfronttopless.jpg

And my first Scout II.. now waiting for me to put a motor, axles, and other stuff back in it..

http://www.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout/jpg/500/scoutlsm.jpg
http://www.tmcom.com/~tsm1/jpg/500/scoutr.jpg

Oh, wait.. here's Little Devil's old pics...

http://walnut.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout/jpg/racer/orig/image1sm.jpg
http://walnut.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout/jpg/racer/orig/image2sm.jpg
http://walnut.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout/jpg/racer/orig/image10sm.jpg

+

http://walnut.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout/jpg/racer/orig/image4sm.jpg
http://walnut.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout/jpg/racer/orig/image8sm.jpg

Mine used to be pretty.

http://www.ihssii.org/Hooper/Images-Historical/scoutnew.jpg

LOL, I knew as soon as I saw this thread that Tom would post at least 45 pictures. Glad to see he didn't let me down. :D

After leaving the rig overnight in the city, Josh needed a new paint job

Originally posted by Ben W
LOL, I knew as soon as I saw this thread that Tom would post at least 45 pictures. Glad to see he didn't let me down. :D

45? I could oblige.. :D

How about pics from my Travelette, just a year ago when I bought it?

:D

http://tigger.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout/jpg/74tette/7_5_2001/tette08.jpg
http://tigger.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout/jpg/74tette/7_5_2001/tette12.jpg

or the Travelall?

http://walnut.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout/jpg/72tall/first_home/image2sm.jpg
http://walnut.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout/jpg/72tall/first_home/image1sm.jpg

Or Michelle's "Oscar"?

http://tigger.tmcom.com/~tsm1/scout/jpg/68_800/5_15_2001/shot3.jpeg

Well I've actually almost had mine a year now.

And it's actually almost done. I'll be taking it for it's first Street Run tomorrow :bounce:

I guess with the different colors in the second pic, the first one probably looks better :eek: I'll be painting it in a week or two anyway.

Here's mine shortly after I got it, all I did was add some 32" mtr's

Notice the incredible flex!!

Mine when I picked it up

two weeks later

Originally posted by Hayraker
two weeks later

Add some inserts and you will be styling. Good choice of grills.

BTW, welcome to the friendlier, softer side of the IH world, newbie!! :D

And then the next week

Joe...I hate to point this out, but the picture you posted on my thread as to "whatcha got, buddy?" looks the same as your "remember when" picture. ? Doesn't look like it has changed too much since you got it on Jan 2001. I can see why you haven't spent much money with D&C...you haven't done anything yet. :cool:

Why don't you give it a rest and keep it to one thread. Some of us are here to learn and give advice when we can. The whineing and sniveling gets old in a hurry so if you can't post tech and at least try to get along, shut the fuck up and be quite. You may get burned for a dumbass question but don't waste my time or everyone else with attitude.

Snoopy all stock, deadly reliable (still is) w/ a little problem with second gear (it wouldn't stay in 2nd and its a 3-speed)...but it'd go where I pointed it... Luckily I didn't point it at too much:D
http://www.dandcextreme.com/beater/800/image/beginingl.jpg
This is perhaps my most favorite picture of all time..
http://www.dandcextreme.com/beater/800/image/start1.jpg
And alas...when I pushed it a little to far...
http://kronos3.konnections.com/ih/rmb/trailpics/dec00/2.jpg

...sniff....sniff...

Originally posted by Second Mouse
Joe...I hate to point this out, but the picture you posted on my thread as to "whatcha got, buddy?" looks the same as your "remember when" picture. ? Doesn't look like it has changed too much since you got it on Jan 2001. I can see why you haven't spent much money with D&C...you haven't done anything yet. :cool:

Check this out.

Most of the guys here spend our money buying TOOLS so we can BUILD IT OURSELVES instead of paying someone else to do it, or buying bolt on :rainbow: stuff.

Why would i pay a shop to work on my truck? Aside from Midas and ONE shop in Colorado that I trust to do some very specific things, no one but ME touches my rigs.

I find that things get F-ed up less often that way, and when they do, I'm the only guy to blame..

Besides.. if you can't build it, you have no business driving it. :flipoff2:

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Snoopy
[B]Snoopy all stock, deadly reliable (still is) w/ a little problem with second gear (it wouldn't stay in 2nd and its a 3-speed)...

That must be a common problemwith the three speeds, because mine does the same thing in second. They muust have weak shift forks or something along those lines.

off of second mouses webpage:

"I will be taking it down to 4 wheel Parts wholesaler and let them do the Full Detroit Lockers- front and rear. So sit back and enjoy the progress, hopefully I can pull this off, since I'm not really known for actually working on my own vehicles."

most people here like to BUILD there stuff. I don't care if you have a webpage to prove it. Its proof enough to me when i get to drive my scout, so i really don't care and know that other people don't care if you THINK they haven't done stuff to their scout. I am proud of my scout and the way I,me, no one else set up my scout. And as far as going to post on other topics and whine that is :rainbow: I have asked some simple questions and been ragged on, rather get ragged on then take it to someone for them to do it. All i know is i built my scout in my driveway in my last year of HS and part of the summer, and your just now doing something like that, but for the most part someone else has done the work for you. Well i can tell ya that my driveway built scout will wheel better thay yours and thats b/c i drive it like I BUILT IT!!

I have tolerance for morons (like me) that ask DUMB q's (like me) b/c i want to build it and not have someone else do it. I had a question about hubs, i couldn't see this snap ring b/c of the grease on the stub axle and man did i get some funn response like saw the knuckles off. Hey it was a dumb question, but tsm1mt took the time and PM'd me some directions, even though i was just blind and could see the d-mn snap ring. But I don't have tolerance and know that most on here don't have tolerance for people that come in here and want to know why no one from this board likes to spend high cash for brand name stuff, coming from someone who hasn't built their scout,BUT wants proof from other people on how their scout has changed, or maybe it isn't changed b/c they haven't forked out a kidney for a brand name bolt on accessorie like you. just think thats gay. more respect in hand built rigs.

oh and in the quote i put up there, don't you mean you hope SOMEONE else or some shop can pull this off.

and $wheel part wholesalers is gay too.

someone please get this guy a tissue...
...its tech talk. not sh*t talk






:flipoff2:
pat

Originally posted by Second Mouse
Joe...I hate to point this out, but the picture you posted on my thread as to "whatcha got, buddy?" looks the same as your "remember when" picture. ? Doesn't look like it has changed too much since you got it on Jan 2001.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Nope hasn't change a bit, I hope your not serious, else you'd better learn how to use the search function.


Originally posted by Second Mouse
I can see why you haven't spent much money with D&C...you haven't done anything yet. :cool:

I've spent money with DandC, just not enough to pay for much around his place. If I lived in CO, had more money then time, I might consider it as an option.

Originally posted by Snoopy

This is perhaps my most favorite picture of all time..
http://www.dandcextreme.com/beater/800/image/start1.jpg

Snoop the kid is cute as hell, my boys love wheeling. If I take my son to the local place he complains because the rocks are too small:D

As sent, via email Pat's rig

someone please get this guy a tissue...
...its tech talk. not sh*t talk

uhhh...thanks i needed one! Read the topic, not much tech here. But if pictures will help you out, if you are more of a visual guy, then i guess this is good tech for ya. I guess you would rather spend some money for someone else to build your scout also:flipoff2:

Originally posted by HarleyM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Snoopy
[B]Snoopy all stock, deadly reliable (still is) w/ a little problem with second gear (it wouldn't stay in 2nd and its a 3-speed)...

That must be a common problemwith the three speeds, because mine does the same thing in second. They muust have weak shift forks or something along those lines.

I have a later (79) T15 3spd that does the same.

Hold it in R or 2nd or it'll pop out - unless you're on the throttle.

Made turning around in tight parking lots a b*tch with the manual steering, manual 4wheel drums, and 31x10.50s when you can't just leave it in R and work the clutch to creep back.. hard to turn the wheel with one hand while the other holds the shifter. :D

no one will work on my rig but myself and my henchmen.

spent all day today filling in the openings in my new half doors, banging the biggest f-ing dents out of the doors i got from scout madness which were supposed to be "immaculate" ,liars. now im figuring out the linkage for the inside door handles.




thanks for posting the pic joe...


pat

hey pat...we got the same name, anyway could you post a pic of those half doors, i need some inserts or half doors. It sucks in the rain when the only side that gets what is your left. Need to keep the shorts dry. Are you making tube doors?? Or just cutting old stock doors, i have old doors and shoud maybe make some out of that. Oh and if anyone wan'ts to sell some old SSII inserts, i would like some. No one wants to sell me their old inserts on the BB, b/c they don't want to ship.

OH WELL

for the doors,
i started with the most dented and rust free set i could find, (my origionals look like they were never put on a truck, so im gonna sell them to a BB guy for his parkinglot penis exension in order to fund my new suspension) i cut the cross brace out , drew up a few lines and basically coppied the ones that someone on the pirate tech section did for his yota. after cutting the doors, they were realllllly flimsy, so i fitted them with a 1" box tube frame. then filled in the openings with 14 gague( i think) galv. sheetmetal. i just put the guts in them and i'm working on the inside handles before i completely finish them off,
as far as "windows" and "window frames" goes, i'm going to tackle that soon. i have some 1/2" .095 chromoly tubing lying around. thinking of mocking up a frame with that and having the upholstery shop to the material part. with the tube frame, it would be sturdy enough to "plug" the window frame into the doors, similar to the YJ half door style.
i have a few pics on my other computer...i can't post on here, email me, and i'll remember to send em to ya.

pat

forgot,
the pic that joe posted of my sII for me was taken the day after i trailered it back from maine to PA. 100% grandpa truck. all origional . $500.00.




pat

Originally posted by patstanley
100% grandpa truck. all origional . $500.00.


$500.00, that's just wrong, I hope you can sleep at night :flipoff2:

Your not the same guy that has pics at the BB of his half-doors with the sq. tubing inside are you?

Joe

Originally posted by 392ssII
hey pat...we got the same name

Dang, so there are three of us on this board? Good thing I go by Hooper, folks might get confused... ;)

joe,
that would be me. half doors square tubing.
i can sleep at night. haha.
the guy i bought it from was a total alcoholic. i drove from pa to maine in one shot and got to his house at 11 am. he was already wasted. i wasn't complaining about the price though. he said he only wanted 500 for it cause he got trashed and decided to see how long he could drive it up hill with no oil in the engine at all. he wasted the no. 7 main and seized it up real nice.

his loss- my gain.

pat

pat, you have some great pics of those doors. Why didin't you go down a bit futher on the cut though?? Would this desing work:
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I think i would want to go down a little further on my cut, just for my personal preference, I have a set of doors in good cond. , but i haven't really taken a good look at them. Any things that would get in the way with this design?? I don't think there would. Email me on how you are making the latches for the door to shut. This is my only option as door inserts are $$$ and i love not having doors, but hate getting wet when commuting.

WOW!!!!!!! that really didn't come out right:eek: Use your imagination to try and see what i was getting at, looked right as i was typing it:confused:

i see what your going for pat,
kinda like the ones the camo blazer is wearing on the cover of this months 4 wheel.... basically i left the rearward edge full height because of the lock button, outside handle( which i have since decided to void), and it really doesn't hinder vision since it covers the drivers seat . l'll send another pic in which you can see what im talking about. post it if you like. after thinking about it, i really could have cut down the foreward side. hmmm, i might even end up doing that. also, if it is cut down further, i wouldnt gain that much, because the top of the door sits level with my seat. also can be seen in picture. i'll also send a mock up of my latch linkage.


pat


i really need to subscribe so i can post these pics myself.

sent.
check email.
pat

good pics, not that far in age from me. Is that linkage a metal wire, or bar?? Either way i bet you could shorten that easily. You got some good pics and diagrams. This would be a lot cheaper than door inserts. Let me know what you do in the future. Where do you live??

thanks ,
i live in phila. pa. i'm a 3rd year mechanical engineering student at drexel university. ...

i'm still toying around with the linkage...when i get it all done ill send some pics.....cheaper, yes. so far materials...
1 length of 1" box....5.00
left over sheetmetal scraps
and all the guts from my old doors.


pat

im going to auburn to study mechanical eng. cool stuff. shoot me some more pics, of the doors when your done. You bend the tube for the cage, or you using the smittybilt front cage??

i bent the tube...its a protools bender i believe. this saturday i'll be bending the rest of the runners and finishing it up hopefully.

good choice of major...good luck with it.


pat