: Anyone ever put 35" tires on a Rangie?


lwg
07-12-2002, 09:53 AM
I am considering doing this to my '90 RRC. I have about a 4" lift and all the usual Drivetrain upgrades. I am in need of new tires and am starting to think 255/85/16 aren't big enough. I am getting a lot of flack saying that they won't fit even with cutting. I aim to prove them wrong. I do not want a body lift though, it still needs to fit in the garage and I want to keep the CG low. I will probably stick with the 16" rims and go with a 315/75/16 BFG or Goodyear tire. Not sure which one yet.

I have already cut the fenders a little and am prepared to cut an additional 3 inches in the front and maybe up to 4" in the rear. I know John at Rovertym has basically the same lift as me and he is running his 2" body lift and he claims that his 35's fit no problem.

Larry
'90 RRC
'95 LWB

Jtisdale
07-12-2002, 10:14 AM
Larry,

check the second thread in this forum, Larry H.(Roverclubhizo) has 35 SSRs(35x12.50x15) on his RRC.

Johnathan

lwg
07-12-2002, 10:17 AM
Thanks,
I couldn't remember where I had seen that Rangie, muchless who the owner was.

Larry

Leafsprung
07-12-2002, 10:38 AM
There are several RRCs running 35s and larger . . .
http://www.teli.stadia.fi/~jjsalone/chemog_RTI.jpg

also check out:
http://www.tufftruck.com.au/
under competitors there are 5-6 rangies on 35s

-Regards
-Ike

Greg Davis
07-12-2002, 11:29 AM
Larry, if you go with the Goodyears, keep in mind that they generally run small. I know someone that has the 315 MTR's and they are closer to 34's than 35's, so you may not have to cut as much as you thought.

redrangie
07-12-2002, 12:09 PM
Check with Ran Over,

I think that he has 35" tsl's....

j

Way
07-12-2002, 12:57 PM
You can do it no problem with a *little* fender trimming. I say go 37" just to rub it in there faces. The trouble that I have on mine is that I run a wide tire (yes my are only 33" though). There is a guy named Paul Lagersted (or some name similar to that) who has done very little trimming and has had 35" tires for a few YEARS now (he is also running 16" rims and a 4"lift).

Way:D

lwg
07-12-2002, 07:41 PM
Beautiful picture Adam. Some friends at the local Dealership say it can't be done and retaing upward travel. I have 4.5" bumpstops right now. And if I just cut the fender from the top of the well out, then I shouldn't have any problem tucking. I may also need to trim my rocksliders a little, not a big enough problem to stop me.

BTW Adam, is he running the 35's on a 16 X 7 rim? I am wanting to stay with my current rims if possible. And I probably will go with Goodyear MT/R's. Many good reviews on them for traction and tread wear. Plus they look cool. I am not a big fan of Swampers. No offense to anyone of course. Their just not too good on a daily driver. I will also stay away from 37" for now. That would surely break things. Maybe once I get sick of the Rover axles and decide to do an axle swap. Maybe next year.

I was thinking Craig did this to his crazy Bobtailed Rangie. Maybe he'll chime in soon. I called him and he is out to lunch.


Thanks for all the input.

Larry

Fear Factory
07-12-2002, 08:03 PM
I cut out the front and rear wheel wells on a 4 door range rover to accomodate 35" MTRs. The front is easy but the rear takes a little more time because you're cutting the door which is an inner and outer piece as well as the wheelwell behind the door. I can't remember how much I took out but it was around 2 inches. I've got some pics is someone wants to post them for me.

madcowdungbeetle
07-12-2002, 08:37 PM
Here's a pic of Larry's (RCH) Rig w/ 35" SSR's.

http://www.roverunited.com/photos/Uwharrie-Safari-4-26-02/images/DSC02243_JPG.jpg

Way
07-13-2002, 09:47 AM
Larry,

I lied to you. Those are 35 x 12.50 R15 (not a 16" rim like I originally posted). I wrote the response from memory and just before posting it found the picture without first looking at it. Sorry. Regardless 35" tires will fit no problem with the proper trimming.. Especially if they are skinny.

Way

Ran_over
07-13-2002, 09:54 PM
Ok, I'm awake now........

Larry, If that much trimming doesn't bother you, I'd stuff on some 37" mtr's. As mentioned, they run pretty small, and depending on rim width, are usually a little over 35".....

I ran some 35" (really about 34")mtr's for a couple weeks, and liked them, but didn't like the final drive with 4.11's and a stock tcase...even with all that weight gone and a 4.6, it was gutless off the line.....

Still have the Borg box, or did you take the plunge for an lt230? Regardless of axle gears, I feel 33's are about as high as I would go on the Borg box. Anything bigger, and it's time for a gear driven case and a call down under for a steep lowrange gearset.

I just settled on some 36x12.50x15 TSL sx's and am holding off on installing them until I can find a clean 1.4:1 high lt230......

Just bought another car too, so funds are a little tight for Rover mods. I'll give you guys a hint.............................

It's British, and will hit 170mph...... care to guess?

Hey Adam..... Doesn't that white coilover rangie on your site have some 35" SSR's? Saw that rig in the latest 4wd&sportutility mag. Kind of a lame shot, but nice to see regardless.....


:usa:
Craig

Way
07-14-2002, 11:17 AM
Yep, that rover has 35" tires as well. I think that they were a metric version though. I also have pictures of a rig running 38" tires on my site.

Craig, wondering why you are not just getting the 1.4 gears and 4.3 low gears and rebuilding the box. Are you planning on the Timm Cooper part time conversion also? Where are you going to get your shift linkage from? You should post a thread about your rig to. It is very unique and being a bob tail, a one of a kind.

Way

redrangie
07-14-2002, 07:51 PM
Oh sh!t Way...

Now you've done it. You've gone and called Craig unique.....Don't spoil him. He's used to being called just plain "off"....

Craig,

Did you sell the 'Benz?


j

onsafari
07-15-2002, 05:56 AM
Larry,

Quit talkin bout it and just get them damn meats on. The yard will be done this week so I am free this weekend so lets get it done before we head up Holy Cross. This way I won't have to listen to the awfull sound of your diffs dragging all over hell and back. Don't worry about your axles they will be fine, its not you have any horsepower to turn them tires over 2000rpm :flipoff2: So let me know if I should free up the garage for Saturday, hell I will even sweep the floor for ya :D

M

green rover
07-15-2002, 07:59 AM
i would like to run 37 inch bfg muds but only come in 17 inch rims anyone know if they make a 17 inch for the the classic rover?

i have 35's on my lwb did so with 5 inch springs and 2 inch body lift no rubbing and no cuttuing. works great.

my other rover / not in use anymore pic. on Adam's site is the truck with 38's 3 inch spring 2 inch body lift and alot of cutting.

Drew

Way
07-15-2002, 10:33 AM
17" rims is a hard way to go. I would rather you go with a 16.5 hummer rim with custom centers. I have a few sources for these if you want them, I have them saved somewhere on the hard drive. The RCAA guys have to run a 4" spacer to fit the 17" rims. They are unable to get the off-sets they need to clear those huge meats. With the short rover axle, I would want a small backspace for those rims. In my searching if you want to go the 17" route you will be spending some money at a custom machine shop making adapters for the rims. When I researched this, I did not come across anything that could work (especially with the rover pattern).

Way

Way
07-15-2002, 10:35 AM
Oh sh!t Way...

LOL.. He kind of reminds me of Rich Hills a bit always doing some mod here or there and then you happen to see a bad ass picture of it and start drooling.

Way

lwg
07-15-2002, 01:42 PM
Well after running Battlement Mesa this weekend there is no doubt about getting 35's. For some reason I really got hung up in the Rock Garden. The D90's with 285/75 and front and rear lockers went right through. Granted they have a shorter wheelbase. I'm convinced that with 35's I could have made them look silly.

So in 2 short weeks I will be picking up some 315/75/16 Goodyear MTR's. I'll stick with 35's for now. Maybe in a few years and with "other than rover" axles I will go bigger. When I start hacking things up I'll take pictures to make the jump easier for others in the future.

lwg
07-15-2002, 03:10 PM
Craig I did do the LT-230 conversion. I am running 4.10's (4.11's) in the diffs. Truck runs great right now with 32" tires. Probably won't do the low-range kit for the LT-230 for quite a while. Too expensive right now. I'll just have to suffer with the 35's and the drivetrain I currently have. I am upgrading the front to the extreme Duty axles and Bill's "New" CV he doesn't have available yet. Hopefully they can handle the 35's with an Autobox and a light right foot. If not, I guess I'll stock up on spares for a while.

J bradley
07-15-2002, 03:10 PM
What kind of axles, driveshafts and lockers are you running now on the 1990 RRC ? Do you still have your old 10 spline junk to sell ? If so shoot me an email to Tallbrad@hotmail.com .

JB

RockRover
07-15-2002, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by TallBrad
What kind of axles, driveshafts and lockers are you running now on the 1990 RRC ? Do you still have your old 10 spline junk to sell ? If so shoot me an email to Tallbrad@hotmail.com .

JB

Don't go backwards man...Get 24 spline maxies, pay your $20 to Lance and we *might* let you get your *red star doohickies* :flipoff2: ;)

J bradley
07-15-2002, 05:20 PM
Maxi axles ..mmmm.. yes...If I could I would - trust me....but $75 for a set of rear axles is hard to beat. $100 diffs are also handy, sometimes with the third member already attatched !!! If it breaks I fix it, if it breaks again I fix it again. Remember - I am only running 31 inch tires w a puny 2 inch lift and I don't want to put the 35 inch cart wheels in front of this tired old horse right now. give me some time though...

A question:

I have been running with only a front drive shaft for 100 miles while I rebuild the rear end again. Any thoughts on VC failure or abuse?? I figure the VC is still good cause it will still turn the front wheels, I will know for sure in the morning when I put the rear end back in and take a spin. Anybody ever toasted their VC ??

Jtisdale
07-16-2002, 09:33 AM
[ In my searching if you want to go the 17" route you will be spending some money at a custom machine shop making adapters for the rims. When I researched this, I did not come across anything that could work (especially with the rover pattern).

Brendon L runs the 37x12.50x17 on his 90, funky wheels that SG got built for him I believe(red 90 w/coilovers). I kinda thought Walker Evan's idea of running 17" rims in the rear and 15" in the front for steep climbs and ledges wasn't a bad idea. Especially after seeing Putnins' rear sidewall deflection on 15"s in Cruces(granted he was running no air pressure either).

Johnathan

lwg
07-16-2002, 10:39 AM
I did some measurements last night and I have 8" until it won't fit in the garage. Starting to consider the Body Lift as the easiest alternative to getting 35's on. And no I don't want 37's... Yet. I am just curious if with the 2" Body Lift and the larger, heavier tires if my rollover angle will change much at all? If not I suppose that's what I will do.

Larry

SeaRover
07-16-2002, 11:24 AM
hey larry - you might consider 34x9 TSL's - JBriggs has put these on w/ an OME heavy lift, and very minimal fender trimming. You can find some pics up at:

http://www.jpurnell.com/RR/superswampers_90RR.htm

with those 4:10's in the pumpkins the smaller radius might do you a little better. he also has the LT230 conversion.

now, with some of those aussie made flares, you could stuff Q78's (35 plus a little) on a body lift alone and have a spectacular COG. Personally, this is to me the ideal setup for a rangie in terms of lift-and-tire, and what I hope to accomplish one of these days. 32's are working out good currently on my stock drivetrain.

cheers,

isaac / seattle