: welding knuckles to axel tube (mig welder)


Chief yelling alot
07-13-2002, 12:04 AM
I can use the 220 Mig welder to weld knuckes to an axel tube with a few pases and be fine rite? or is this a job for a pro

CSP
07-13-2002, 08:23 AM
That's what a pro used on mine. He said that the trick is to use a high nickel content wire and all is good. Woulda done it myself, but my welder doesn't get hot enough!

arndog
07-13-2002, 08:57 AM
would like to hear more on this

I would think that the weld has to only fight against rotational forces on the knuckle. I would also assume that the strength of a given weld around a full circumference like that is really really strong but I am unsure of the numbers

anyone shed some real world experience / numbers on thsi fact

arndog

Tony Sobrito
07-13-2002, 09:13 AM
after i ground the weld and rotated the knuckles on my 60 i gave it 2 passes with my millermatic 250. i have more bead material now than before grinding out the old bead. i say go for it.

ErikB
07-13-2002, 09:21 AM
Mine were MIG'ed.

http://home.off-road.com/~bibelheimer/images/knucleperch.jpg

We preheated the knuckle & tube a bit w/ the torch first too.

I dont think the high-nickle content is necessary on the knuckles since I believe they are forged, not cast. We used regular wire.

CSP
07-13-2002, 12:49 PM
The knuckles are cast not forged. They are cast steel though, and not cast iron so welding them isn't as tricky as some make them out to be.

JIM3030
07-13-2002, 02:01 PM
one pass with that is plenty! just get it!

lizard
07-13-2002, 03:16 PM
Looks like the factory migs them... bet they use a gas sheild AND flux core wire. I used to weld 1" and larger plate in a backhoe manufacturing plant and my absolute favorite piece to weld was the pivot yoke. Burned that thing with a 400 AMP Mig using gas and flux core. Man those welds were beautiful. penetration? No problem :flipoff2:

Anyway, I bet the axle tube rotates in a jig and it takes about 3 seconds to weld each tube...

For you welders: I used a #15 lens and alumiunim foil sheilded glove protectors over my regular gloves. The whole shop lit up when I hit the trigger. yes!

rockmutt
07-13-2002, 06:00 PM
if you got the right tools that the "pro" shop does, hell...go for it,
:D

mrnatural
07-13-2002, 07:38 PM
seems to me that the issue isn't weld strength, but alignment. how are you guys making a proper jig for castor angles and such? im just curious.

jasonmt
07-13-2002, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by mrnatural
seems to me that the issue isn't weld strength, but alignment. how are you guys making a proper jig for castor angles and such? im just curious.

I have been using a "fixture rod" and a smart level, with the smart level being accurate to .1 degree, See the attached pathetic picture ( I really need to buy a digi camera, but I am much to cheap for that !)