: CA Green Sticker ???


Keith Strong
07-13-2002, 08:06 AM
If I go green sticker on my junk, will I ever be able to plate it again? Or am I screwed into the eternal Off Road Only? Anybody know all the details on green stickering? I wanna go V8, but I wanna just slap somethin in for now and not deal with the smog nazis :beer:

YellowSub1962
07-13-2002, 11:49 AM
I can't help you directly, but PM cowmooflage....he GSed his jeep and I know he's looked into it in the past and might still have the info....HTH


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JIM3030
07-13-2002, 02:06 PM
you can go back. just call the dmv thaey will go all over it on the phone. but if you don't pass a smog check then try it you will have to go red sticker and that sucks. only some months can you will in different woods. snow wheeling only:mad:

smurfsdad
07-13-2002, 02:33 PM
They have no provisions in place to enforce the red sticker, so thats not a worry.

withamc
07-13-2002, 04:51 PM
Mine is green stickered AND plated - so I don't have to deal with the Adventure Pass. If you think you want to smog and license it some day, just green sticker it and non-op it for street use.

Keith Strong
07-13-2002, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by withamc
Mine is green stickered AND plated - so I don't have to deal with the Adventure Pass. If you think you want to smog and license it some day, just green sticker it and non-op it for street use.

SWEEEEEEEEEEt! That is what I wanna here :D I can green AND non-op? Do you have any more details? Gonna call DMV Monday

WOO HOO......V8 here I come!

The Jerk
07-13-2002, 09:39 PM
if you green sticker it i dont think you can flat tow it anymore keith! jiMMy

WytNkls
07-13-2002, 10:03 PM
Two words "SIERRA COUNTY". Get a p.o. box and call it macaroni. My Jeep is registered in Downieville. No more smog.

matt-

FULLSIZE
07-13-2002, 10:09 PM
i dont think he should worry about it, he only go's wheelin twice a year anyway.:flipoff2: i guess i should shut up since i'm rigless:beer:

Kyron
07-14-2002, 01:06 AM
Yes non-op and get the Green sticker.... I did that on my dirt bike, and it's pretty much the same thing in the DMV's hazy eyes.

But the P.O box sounds better......:)

Adam Ant
07-14-2002, 01:10 AM
Originally posted by Keith Strong




WOO HOO......V8 here I come!

youre just gonna break more springs:p :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

Adam,

Brad
07-14-2002, 03:13 AM
Originally posted by The Jerk
if you green sticker it i dont think you can flat tow it anymore keith! jiMMy

jimmys right on this one, if any wheels are touching the ground it has be be plated. however if you dont plan on wheeling much :p you can probly get a day permit to flat tow it:D

Ed A. Stevens
07-14-2002, 08:55 AM
Yes, you can "Non-Opp" and Green Sticker the same vehicle (bike or auto), but there are limits on where you can legally take a Green Sticker vehicle.

I do not know of any autos subject to the Red Sticker restriction, emissions reduction program, so I would only expect to qualify for Green Sticker (good, no seasonal restrictions).

A Green Sticker vehicle is recognized as an Off-Highway Vehicle (yes, the often heard OHV term). You are treated the same as the (older) MX bikes and ATV's. This results in you not being legal on "Street Legal Only" trails (Rubicon, and many of the recognized County recorded roads and trails).

You may not be legal on your favorite trail!

A GS vehicle is not legal to drive, park, or trailer on a street or highway, except when authorized by Law Enforcement or in an emergency. Think about this: no parking in the street in front of the house, no flat tow, no driving the street from the campground to the wheeling trailhead.

These legal conflicts are a PITA, and make almost every young child OHV enthusiast participating in quality recreation (driving the street from a campsite to trailhead) a criminal.

These restrictions should motivate you to demand linked OHV trail systems, and OHV legal access from campgrounds and staging areas, on public lands (get off your a$$ and write letters for OHV trail expansion in BLM and USFS land Reserves).

The OHV registration fees go to support SVRA's (like Hollister and Hungry Valley) and OHV grant programs (trail maintenance and Adopt-A-Trail efforts) that keep roads and trails open. The California Green Sticker Commission decides where these fees are spent. Currently the commission appointees are biased to green advocacy group (GAG) representatives, and they are trying to redirect the fees to preservation programs (fencing and "wilderness" restoration efforts). If you want more money spent on trails, and less on "wilderness" and closure enforcement, then you better start writing your Assemblyman and Senator your pro OHV wishes (because they are the jokers that made the green group appointments to the Green Sticker OHV commission).

You can legally take a "street legal" 4x4 on any OHV trail over 50 inches, but an OHV is limited to only "OHV legal" roads and trails. County roads and trails can be dual purpose (OHV and Street Legal) if recorded as such (changed during plan revisions and ammendments). The motorized enthusiast gets a win-win, OHV and street legal access (and our OHV enthusiast children are not forced to be viewed as criminals) when we gain expansion of the OHV trail system.

Happy Trails!

misfitcj
07-14-2002, 08:57 AM
this may or not a help.............but in Vermont you don't have to smog and don't have to be a res. to reg your thingy............and if it is older than nine years they don't care about the title...........check it out ltr.....

Keith Strong
07-15-2002, 08:40 AM
Some great points Ed :beer: But honestly I am not THAT worried about it, cause I dont do any driving in my junk other than trail anymore, and if I get popped going 100 yards from camp to trail head, so be it :(

Jimmy, I know jackass....buy of my for sale shit and I can get a trailer :flipoff2:

Adam......Probably :D

Fullsize......stepp off beer bitch :flipoff2: You can ride shotgun and run my cooler for me :p

Ed A. Stevens
07-15-2002, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by Keith Strong
if I get popped going 100 yards from camp to trail head, so be it :(



Anytime a Green Sticker OHV gets popped for illegal travel (or even observed driving down the "street legal highway") it's a black mark for OHV recreation. The state (CA) is demanding monitoring as a requirement to pay out the GS-OHV grants (so you do not even need to be sighted, just observed, for the documentation of "illegal off-road activity").

The GAG's do not differentiate between you putting a full size rockcrawler at 2-mph down a graded dirt road, and some bozo gouging ATV tracks in a "pristine meadow behind the fences of designated Wilderness."

The GAG's are demanding "enforcement" as a major part of the OHV grant funding, and guess where they will stage the "monitors"? Do you really think the GAG's will put up money and labor for "monitoring and enforcement" on the difficult trails (to target the folks like the "it's no wonder people are trying to close down trails, Rubicon" thread), or do you think they will target the children on ATV's (and you) driving the 100 yards from campsite to trailhead?

We need to be more astute politically to keep the reported trail impacts real and valid, and in the meantime, if there is a way to be "street legal registered" it's an advantage (legally and politically).

Happy Trails!

"I thought it was fun, so they made it illegal..."