I am currently putting a Detroit locker in my F*rd 9" and a Detroit truetrac in my D44.

My questions:
Does anyone have a Truetrac?
Are they built anything like the gool ol' Detroit?
Do they lock up often?
Will it be good enough off-road, and still comfortable on the road?

Originally posted by frankie fountain
will transmit torqe to the tire with the most tractin

Isn't that what an open diff. does???

When will this thing lock up.... or will it???

C'mon guys! One damn reply! :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Shaw



C'mon guys! One damn reply! :flipoff2:

There's only 1 reply because trutracs suck, I blew one right in half. Get a real locker for it. That's what I'd do.

The TrueTrac is a limited slip differential. It is NOT a locker and will not lock up like the Detroit. It won't be there for you in the rocks.

Well shit...

How well does it respond? That blows. I think my axle is already put back together. :mad3:

true tracs are junk and wont hook up well with a tire in the air if at all

As was said.. a Trutrac is a limited slip... they are good as you'll be able to turn. OK in the mud until you get bogged down hard. Basically, as long as one tire has 25% of the traction the other one does, it will push the power to the wheel with the most traction. Beyond that, it unloads and acts like an open diff.

Auto tranny guys can modulate the brakes on the rocks to slow down the unloaded wheel and force power to the other side with some success.

What type of wheeling do you really do? If you're on the rocks and can deal with the turning problem (or are willing to go twin-stick on your t-case), get a FULL locker. If not, a selectable locker sounds like your best bet.

Rockcrawling and climbs mostly. I do a little bit of everything.

I drive it everyday, so I can't go with another Detroit up front.

Ummmm....this is for the front diff??

So....for daily driving use, you can't leave the truck in 2wd and unlock the hubs?

That is a good thought, but I don't have manual locking hubs. I guess I could get them, eh?

Would that be my best bet? How much would the conversion be for a dana44? How much of a pain is it?

Originally posted by Shaw
That is a good thought, but I don't have manual locking hubs. I guess I could get them, eh?

Would that be my best bet? How much would the conversion be for a dana44? How much of a pain is it?

You have a regular old D44 front with no locking hubs? So you have drive slugs like the waggy's had? Well just go buy a set of WARN lockign hubs for a 1/2 ton with internal hubs. $70 and you can put a full detroit in the front and be happy. Forget the limited slip.

Instead of calling Truetrac a limited slip.. they should call them "limited traction" because that is what you'll get.

Don't waste your money on a Truetrac.

Charles

I was looking @ a TrueTrac for my D44. Then I grew up and just welded it shut.

Never had a problem since. Well just a few broken axle shafts. :)


if your worried about not being able to turn, get a ARB up front.
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Just stay away from LS units. they are not worth the $$$$ you pay for them!

Even if it has drive flanges, you can run the detroit no prob. The front end justs coasts along till you pull the lever on the floor. Trutracs are good for road racing/ street, thats about it

If you really want a limited slip up front, then buy a Power-loc. You can tighten then up, almost to the point of a locker. But then you are back to the same problem with runnig a locker up front. Add manual hubs then install a locker.

Thanks for the input! I will get the Detroit and hubs when I get some extra cash. I just dumped 8 grand into the damn thing! :eek: I need to recover.

I'd say if you have an auto they aren't all that bad. I watched a friend of mine go through everything that Moab and Las Cruces had to throw at him with a true-trac up front. With brake modulation you can actually be very successful, but this is really only pratical with an auto. Also I have heard of strength issues but with our anemic v-8s it really isn't a problem. I'd say try it out first unless you have a stick if you have a stick sell it because it will do you little or no good at all because you need a third foot to be successful at locking up the diff and letting off the clutch and giving it gas on an incline. SO don't chunk it yet try it first.

-ben

Originally posted by Shaw
Thanks for the input! I will get the Detroit and hubs when I get some extra cash. I just dumped 8 grand into the damn thing! :eek: I need to recover.


$8000 and still a dana 44:eek: :(

Originally posted by m016324
I'd say if you have an auto they aren't all that bad. I watched a friend of mine go through everything that Moab and Las Cruces had to throw at him with a true-trac up front. With brake modulation you can actually be very successful,

-ben


With brake modulation you can actually be very successful,

why finaggle it, get a detroit and forget about it, and always be "successfull".

Originally posted by m016324
....I'd say try it out first unless you have a stick if you have a stick sell it because it will do you little or no good at all because you need a third foot to be successful at locking up the diff and letting off the clutch and giving it gas on an incline.
-ben


Or you could rig up a hand throttle.. it works great for those triple pedal times.

tru trac = expensive open dif,
I wouldnt even grace it with the moniker 'limited slip'
an open will lock the opposite tire somewhat with brake modulation.

The axles aren't done yet! The guy who is building my truck said that it is almost done with the stock gears from an F-150. What ever I want in the diffs is still up for discussion. Nothing has been ordered yet. He is now putting on warn hubs for me so I can dump a Detroit in each end.



Originally posted by Aggro



$8000 and still a dana 44:eek: :(

That is for an entire 4 link front and rear swap with king coils. I drive a newer body style s-10 with homemade cutouts that go all the way back into and over the doors and 36s are the biggest tires I can stuff. I don't want anything bigger. Why would I have the need for a D60 or bigger.

not to barge into your post but what is the differance between a Detroit locker and a NO SLIP? the no slip is made by Tractech and so is the detroit. I got my box today and it is check that it is a Detroit but then the inside says NO SLIP? SO which is better and what's the price differance. Did I get screwed?


I've already installed it in my 9" but I just wonder if I should pull it out and get what I ordered or what


Thanx

Originally posted by dangerranger33
not to barge into your post but what is the differance between a Detroit locker and a NO SLIP? the no slip is made by Tractech and so is the detroit. I got my box today and it is check that it is a Detroit but then the inside says NO SLIP? SO which is better and what's the price differance. Did I get screwed?


I've already installed it in my 9" but I just wonder if I should pull it out and get what I ordered or what


Thanx
You mean "No-Spin"? If so, only the name.
Different marketing segments.