I'm thinking of selling my 14.5x38.5x15 Sxs ,on steel 10x15, 8-lugs and getting some 38x13x16 TSLs on either 16x8, or 16x10 aluminum 8-lug 589s,(see question below), reason is due to a Dana 44 up front, (possible a little less weight will = longer axle life?) ,and my Toyota 3.0 V-6,, is now like a worn out carbed 4 cyl in the power dept.!!, and I think I will loose some weight with the alum rims/narrower tires,, not to mention possibly a better balanced tire,(daily driver,for now),, my question is;I know the 16" wheel also has a safety bead,and I dont think they make a 15" 8-lug alum. wheel?,.. will a 8" wide wheel hold the bead better with the 13" wide tire at low pressue than a 10" wide will ?..
I had 14.5 SSRs on 10"wide 589s and never lost a bead at 8psi,, but I have never owned a narrower wheel,,,,,,,,, Thanks in advance!!

[ 10-06-2001: Message edited by: webilt ]

Well I have 36 12.5s and I pop beads all the time with 15x10s. I have looked into the 16in option and I would say 16x8s. The 13in tire has a narrower section width than the 36 12.5 I believe so the narrower wheel should hold it. Bead locks work even better but I just cant find a money tree anywhere so I just run them at 10 to 12 psi.

Never heard of a 38x13 R16 swamper? <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0">

wheelinjp,, I too noticed that the 13" wide TSL has a narrower section width than the 12.5,,, I dont know of anyone who has the 13s,I would like to see some mounted in person,, or even talk to someone who has them,, before I jump in with both feet and buy them,,, Thanks ~

DRM,, no "R" in the size,, just a TSL, bias tire,,, 4WheelParts has them , here in No.Cal,..

Originally posted by webilt:
<STRONG>DRM,, no "R" in the size,, just a TSL, bias tire,,, 4WheelParts has them , here in No.Cal,..</STRONG>

The R is there - is stands for "RIM" <IMG SRC="smilies/tongue.gif" border="0">
I was using it to differentiate which one is the rim width.

As far as the size - just checked their web site ans sure enough - that size is there but only in 16" rim <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">

Anybody have a pic of one, or the actual specs???

Ahh,, o.k.. I thought you might have been referring to the tire being a "R"adial,my mistake,, In the Swamper web site,, they mention a 10x16 recommended rim width,for the 13" wide tire?,, but they also recommend a 15x12 wheel width for a 16x35x15 Bogger,? I would think a 8" wide wheel would work though (for the 13" wide tire)

if You are Looking at a Balancing and a Bead Staying rim hand's Down go the 8 Inch Wheel

I have Personally never seen the 13 inch wide TSL's But have seen alot Of 12.50 on 8 Inch wheel's And It Has No Problems On the Bead issue !!!! And You say the tread Width is Narrower on the 13inch wide tire Go to Four Wheel parts And see if they Will mount One For you??? on A 8 Inch Wide Wheel! Worst thing they Would Say Is NO!
You can try?? EH!!

My .02 cent's

Adam,,

thanks Adam,, yea I will give that a try,, I would lke to see one mounted 1st,, <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">

oh Yeah I would be Interested in you rims and Tire's If You Are Gonna Sell
Adam,

Adam,, I just posted them in the "for sale" section <IMG SRC="smilies/wink.gif" border="0">

Damn the Rims Wont Work For Me!!!

Adam,,

damn those tires have been around like a vilage hooker, oh well whats up jamie the runner looks good i just got a 85 extra cab so it might get fixed up for wheeling <IMG SRC="smilies/skull.gif" border="0">

Hey Jimmy,(84scrambler),, yea,, the tires are just a little too much for what I'm after,, I see that you got a Toy,, but I thought I saw it in the for sale section? <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0">, oh well I think half of this 4wd sport we're in is buying,and selling <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> ...

yep I just Sold A set Of Boggers last Week!

Wheeling And Dealing!


Adam,,

btw 8 lug 15 inch wheels are common these days
go to four wheel parts

Originally posted by Trailhawg:
<STRONG>btw 8 lug 15 inch wheels are common these days
go to four wheel parts</STRONG>

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Originally posted by Trailhawg:
<STRONG>btw 8 lug 15 inch wheels are common these days
go to four wheel parts</STRONG>
.
Hummm, I will have to go back and recheck, but I have never seen an 8-lug 15" Alum. wheel
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Originally posted by webilt:
<STRONG>Originally posted by Trailhawg:
btw 8 lug 15 inch wheels are common these days
go to four wheel parts</STRONG>
.
Hummm, I will have to go back and recheck, but I have never seen an 8-lug 15" Alum. wheel
<IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0">

No they do not make them !!!!! i have looked and offered Weld and American racing money to make them so i can run champion beadlock

Originally posted by DRM:
<STRONG>

As far as the size - just checked their web site ans sure enough - that size is there but only in 16" rim <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">

Anybody have a pic of one, or the actual specs???</STRONG>

DRM, it's the 16" version of the 38X12.50. Like the 15" version, this tire was originally stamped 37X13 right up until the day the 36X12.50 came out. Not sure why they kept the 13" stamping on the 16" version instead of 12.50, but it has the same overall dimensions as the 15" version - meaning true diameter of 36-36.5".


TEX

Originally posted by TEX:
<STRONG>DRM, it's the 16" version of the 38X12.50. Like the 15" version, this tire was originally stamped 37X13 right up until the day the 36X12.50 came out. Not sure why they kept the 13" stamping on the 16" version instead of 12.50, but it has the same overall dimensions as the 15" version - meaning true diameter of 36-36.5".

TEX</STRONG>

ahhhh..... that explains it TEX - thanks <IMG SRC="smilies/glasses.gif" border="0">

I found this on e-bay, it has the Swamper 38x13 16" tires you guys are talking about.
click here (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=596116263&r=0&t=0)

[ 10-08-2001: Message edited by: coloradok5 ]

Interco recommends rims that are too wide for low pressure off-road.

The tires in the ebay pic have the same outer lug design as my 34x9.5s, the lugs really stick out to the sides. Interesting <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Thanks for finding a pic of the tires, coloradok5,, those are alot narrower than I expected,, and even on 10" wheels !!,, I think I will just stay with the 14.5x38.5s for now,,,