heres mine :D

done with a 140 amp Snap On MIG.

the weld-

the penetration :D

Man that is ugly. Got to start somewhere though. Congrats on taking the first step. When I started welding about 6 years ago, I would take 1/4" strap and stack them (like a stair step) and weld them that way. It is a good way to practice.

I also recommend that you make small cicle movements in the puddle when dragging across. Here is a pic to show you what to aim for.

Way

Originally posted by Way
Man that is ugly. Got to start somewhere though. Congrats on taking the first step. When I started welding about 6 years ago, I would take 1/4" strap and stack them (like a stair step) and weld them that way. It is a good way to practice.

I also recommend that you make small cicle movements in the puddle when dragging across. Here is a pic to show you what to aim for.

Way

what he siad

mig is easer then stick

and you can actuyly push the pudel in the postion you want as youre welding

if that makes sence

what, you expected my first weld to look like i had been doing it for 5 years? :D

if you look about 3/4 of the way towards the right hand sode of the pic at the weld, you can see i kinda had the circle/side to side movement goin on.

i was welding some big chunks of 1/4" together too and then me and a bunch of guys tried to break them with some big sledges and we only succeeded in bending the steel :D

overall i dont think it was too bad for a first time.

I reccomend pushing not dragging. That is a great way to get good penetration:emb3:. That is the only way I weld now.

Erin

:cool:

Old scout looks like he's on the ball. Here's a bumper that I made for a yeep. 9V man, turn down the heat. Weave back and forth (1...2...3 weave 1...2...3 weave and pull the stinger back while you're doing it) Try dragging, get good at that and then work at pushing the puddle. Way, don't move the stinger so fast. If that was with mig, you're moving far too fast.... It turned out looking like it was tigged. The current looks fine, turn up the wire speed a bit. Either that, or make another pass or two. On your vertical welds it looks like you went to fast again and didn't have enough wire speed. under cut! I swear by stick man, it's the ONLY way to go.

http://www.bogginfreaks.com/phpreaders/albums/MR4WD/aas.jpg

Edit: Nice steelwork though way, if you did all the steel work on the Dana 44 yourself you should go into business! Polish up on the welding and make your millions...

Practice welding circles....This will help when you are welding bends!

Or gussets through frames...

That, is especially hard to do.

Originally posted by Way
Man that is ugly. Got to start somewhere though. Congrats on taking the first step. When I started welding about 6 years ago, I would take 1/4" strap and stack them (like a stair step) and weld them that way. It is a good way to practice.

I also recommend that you make small cicle movements in the puddle when dragging across. Here is a pic to show you what to aim for.

Way

:eek: I dont think my hobart 135 can do that!?

What machine do you use?

Edit: Nice steelwork though way, if you did all the steel work on the Dana 44 yourself you should go into business! Polish up on the welding and make your millions...

Thanks, when you own a Rover you are stuck doing everything yourself. I had plenty of time with my vehicle down (4 months) while I was working on the project, so had plenty of time to grind and fabricate. I am a LONG way from being professional.

What machine do you use?

I prefer working with Lincoln GMAW (gas metal arc welders, or commonly called MIG) welders. I do not own my own welder, but used one from a shop in Durango that I work for. It was a Snap-on with digital readouts and a bunch of wierd stuff on it (not sure of the model number though). Basically on that one you plug in metal thickness and it sets it up for you. I have lots of practice welding 1/4" and 3/8" but my expertise in the thin stuff and setting up machines is an area I need to work on. I usually waste a few pieces of scrap getting is dialed in prior to welding on anything at all.

Your machine should have specs on metal thickness as to how thick it can weld. It should also have a spec for how thin too. I would be very suprised if your hobart 135 could not weld 1/4" plate. Most machines go at least 3/8" steel.

Well lets see here, I did this my first time with a stick welder and 7014 rods. first welds ever.

And i did this with a torch and some old coat hangers

Wow with a coat hanger. Always heard stories of that, but have not seen it in person. What is it like? Anything out of the norm?

Way

this was the first weld with the MIG 180

does a lot beter job now that I got it all tuned and stuff

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid23/p39c9f177f58c975558cbc672fd6b63e9/fd9fefb1.jpg

Originally posted by willymutt
I reccomend pushing not dragging. That is a great way to get good penetration:emb3:. That is the only way I weld now.

Erin

Actually you get better penetration from dragging the weld than from pushing.. Pushing is better for welding thinner stuff like sheetmetal..

Originally posted by Toyota_Jim
Well lets see here, I did this my first time with a stick welder and 7014 rods. first welds ever.


:eek: thats going to be one big eletricl bill :eek:

how long that take ya

Originally posted by Way
Wow with a coat hanger. Always heard stories of that, but have not seen it in person. What is it like? Anything out of the norm?

Way

Its just like welding with a steel filler rod.

Its just like welding with a steel filler rod

except for the impurities, but hey were not doing no avaition quality x-ray welding here.

Actually you get better penetration from dragging the weld than from pushing.. Pushing is better for welding thinner stuff like sheetmetal

you actually do get better penetration from pushing, its virgin steel, while dragging sounds good because its hot, you have the built up pool which is adding to the thickness slightly and therefore creating less pentration. try an experament, drag then push the weld, cut it in half down the weld bead and see for yourself.

Originally posted by Chief Yelling Alot



:eek: thats going to be one big eletricl bill :eek:

how long that take ya
did it at school. thats 5 layers... around 150 rods

Originally posted by Toyota_Jim

did it at school. thats 5 layers... around 150 rods

Bwahahahaah

how the hell did ya get away with that one

dam I wish I knew of that about 3 years ago ;)

Get away with what?

Originally posted by hy_desert_4wheeler


Actually you get better penetration from dragging the weld than from pushing.. Pushing is better for welding thinner stuff like sheetmetal..

Sorry but pushing the weld gets more penetration. also weld uphill when ever you can (if you gots the skill :flipoff2: )

Originally posted by lizard


Sorry but pushing the weld gets more penetration. also weld uphill when ever you can (if you gots the skill :flipoff2: )

my garage floor is level, next time i am out, ill weld up in the grass on the hill. never tried it before...

Originally posted by Toyota_Jim


my garage floor is level, next time i am out, ill weld up in the grass on the hill. never tried it before...


Ummm... why not tack your peices together, then lay a peice of 1 inch "whatever you got laying around" under your metal?

Reboxing Commando frame.
My welding is improving as I go, but I still suck at upside down welds.
I'm running 185 amp MIG, with a crappy duty cycle.
I assume I need more wire speed and heat for upside down, right?
Any help would be appreciated from the gurus.
I know to push now rather than drag, thanks....

Matt

ill post my first MIG and TIG welds in a little while when i get on my other computer. im pretty good at both but dont ask what machines they were cuz i have no idea. im in a welding class and i kept my first welds,cept for my stick(god i suck, but im getting better everyday)

Uphill wel, last time i welded uphill with mig was 3 years ago in welding class. This one was done by me a couple of months ago, was a bit rusty and wen't to fast, therefore the lack of penetration on the sides of the weld. Did get good penetration to the back of the weld.µ

Edit: This weld was done with and SAF 180amp mig welder on setting 4 out of six, wire speed at 3.8

Christof.

Penetration on the inside.

Originally posted by c104
Reboxing Commando frame.
My welding is improving as I go, but I still suck at upside down welds.
I'm running 185 amp MIG, with a crappy duty cycle.
I assume I need more wire speed and heat for upside down, right?
Any help would be appreciated from the gurus.
I know to push now rather than drag, thanks....

Matt

You have to go faster, don't give the puddle the time to fall down, imagine the puddle as a fast drying liquid, don't give it the time to run down, do multiple smaller passes, instead of one big pass overhead.

(sorry for the unclear explanation, technical english isn't easy for me)

Christof

Then of course there is welding in on the trail with 3 batteries and soem stick.....using jumper cables too!