: Tow Rig Tires
Rat70FJ 04-21-2008, 01:01 PM Ok, I'm ready for the sixth set of tires on my '01 Cummins with 112,xxx on it. This thing eats rear tires for lunch! I searched and didn't find anything meaningful. Who's found an E rated all terrain tire in the 265-285 X 16 range that they've had good performance/mileage out of?
ddestruel 04-21-2008, 01:29 PM try toyos, the M55's seem to be a harder rubber compound. unfortunately you are battling a uphill fight. torque turns tires and cooks em right off. the only solution is hard rubber compounds.
Use to have similar problems with tractor trailers, a truck with a 350 cummins the drive axle tires would last almost three times as long as set on a truck with 600 KTA turn up that KTA and you were pretty much repaving the highway whenever you were climbing a grade.
I run BFG AT's i get about 40k-45k miles to a set sometimes 50k. currently 403 hp and 817 ft/lbs torque and my trailer at max capacity is about 14k lbs. running 315/ 75 r17's
I hada discovery AT that wore really well too
rfr002 04-21-2008, 01:50 PM Try looking at some diesel forums.
Also, I know there was a couple multiple page threads on here.
CJHeap 04-21-2008, 02:22 PM BFG A/t and the BFG Rugged Trail are both good wearing tires.
I ran a set of a/t's for 60 k pulling my 30 ft airstream all over the country with a 94 Dodge that had a snug top covering a bed full of tools.
I have the Rugged Trails on my new 08 dodge so it is too early to determine the lifespan but they ride and handle great.
The General Grabber A/T 2 is getting great reviews also.
nissancrawler 04-21-2008, 03:05 PM I'm running Nitto Dura Grapplers and LOVE them. They've only been on for 6k miles, but they still show no wear from new with the depth gauge. MUCH better traction than the bridgestones I had. They ride great at 60 p.s.i. on my half ton, even with the 10 plies. They also stopped all trailer induced sway I had.
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I'm running the 265/70/17's.
KacksterK5 04-21-2008, 06:37 PM Has anyone tried the Toyo Open Country HTs?
bob91yj 04-22-2008, 05:42 AM Got 60k out of my last set of BFG AT's on my Dmax that is used as a DD, tow rig (10k enclosed trailer), and desert racing chase truck. Couldn't think of a good reason to try anything different when I replaced them with another set last week.
5540jd 04-22-2008, 06:15 AM Running the 265/75/16 Firestone's on my 2500. Have had good luck with them. 10 ply transforce AT's. Driving habits are definitely the contributing factor to tread life. The life of mine decreased with the addition of a programmer.
Tim84K10 04-22-2008, 10:16 AM I'm running Super Swamper Vortacs. Search.
landrvrnut21 04-22-2008, 11:41 AM I am running Goodyear AT/D2 in 265/75R16 E rated on my 01 2500. Got them from Sam's club for $600 out the door. They have lasted about 40k so far, and have about 10k or so left on them. Most of the miles were highway, and some with towing 10K+. They have worn very even, rotated twice.
I probably could have gotten more miles out of them, but did some tugging last June. They still have been a good tire. Not real aggressive, but have gotten the job done. Next set will be Dick Cepek FCII this fall.
MT4Runner 04-22-2008, 01:13 PM Has anyone tried the Toyo Open Country HTs?
I've got them on my 06 Tundra DD. It's a work truck that gets 1,000+ highway miles a week. Very smooth, very silent, good in wet conditions. The Tundra is not a dedicated towrig, but they did pretty well with a 6,000 lb. trailer behind.
The guy at the counter at Les Schwab said they're a 50,000 mile tire. I put them on at 20k, ran them to 40k. Changed in December for the winter.
I run studded snow tires up here in the north in the winter for snow/ice conditions.
Wear is hardly noticeable; I'm pretty sure they'll hit the 50k mark, or at least pass the 40k mark.
The Rugged Trails that came on it were very bad by 20k.
Pavemen 04-22-2008, 06:38 PM I am happy with the performance of my Big-O A/T's on my 3500. I think they go up to the size you are looking for. I've got the 215/85/16's in E rating.
KeepItCrunk96zj 04-28-2008, 02:49 PM I currently are running the new BFG A/T 285/75/16 E-Rated tires on my 99 ex cab long bed dually stick cummins with 401hp and 812tq and and can't be happier with my buy. over 5k and have shown no measurable wear at all.
brian4wd 04-28-2008, 03:24 PM WTF are you doing to smoke the tires that quickly?
My '00 2500 4wd CTD is on it's second set of America's Tires Pathfinder ATRs in 315/75R16 (knock off of BFG A/T) - 1st set went just shy of 60k miles and this set has almost 40K on it.
Brian
GlennC 04-30-2008, 05:55 PM Michelins. I got 50k out of a set on a '98 Dodge dually. The only way I could afford them was that they came on the truck when I bought it new. The rode perfectly, switched to Goodyears when they wore out, and the Goodyears had to be rebalanced several times and never rode as nicely.
Keep your tires rotated, the rears wear way faster on the dodges.
high clearence 04-30-2008, 06:43 PM if i remember right there is a 1500-1700# difference between front to rear which will cause the rear to always be pushing the front.
TERRYJMATTHEW 04-30-2008, 06:51 PM A second vote for the Firestones. The Transforce HT's or AT's are excellent. Best truck tires on the market right now.
apeters89 04-30-2008, 06:54 PM BFG A/t and the BFG Rugged Trail are both good wearing tires...
I have the Rugged Trails on my new 08 dodge so it is too early to determine the lifespan but they ride and handle great.
I've got 43k on my '06 Cummins. I try to rotate my tires about ever 8k - 10k miles. I fully expect to get another 20k - 30k miles out of them, towing recreationally.
ironworker378 04-30-2008, 07:24 PM i have toyo mt's on my 02 and have 25,000 on them they are about half tread. I have had bad luck with bfgs i would not buy them ever.
Norcaljr 04-30-2008, 09:34 PM I have had nothing but great luck with BFG's... but im thinking about going to the Toyo's because of the sidewall strength and E rating though.
BobBarry 04-30-2008, 11:25 PM I've gone with Goodyear Wrangler Silent-Armors in the 285/75-16" E-rating. About the same price as the Michelins, but more aggressive tread.
But I haven't put them through the paces yet, so I can only say they ride nice and are not too loud, but they are not "silent."
Rat70FJ 05-05-2008, 04:50 PM Thanks for the responses guys. I popped for the 285 load range E BFG all terrains on the 23rd and split for Moab. 2000 miles later they show no wear (don't laugh, I've seen wear at 800 trailering before!) They have a nice taut ride with no squirmyness. I have no idea why I smoke rears so fast. I'm 50 years old and got over wasting rears purposly long ago. Must be the 600 lbs of torque and heavy trailers.
Joey D 05-05-2008, 05:04 PM What width wheel are you running? If you can get away with it run a highway tread tire, the solid ribs will last a lot longer and also ride better.
I have highway tread tires on my work van and have just over 61,000 miles and it needs them soon. I think thats pretty good out of any tire. It's heavy and has plenty of power so I don't think that matters much.
Mechanos 05-05-2008, 06:58 PM Another vote for BFG A/T KO's. Currently running a set of 285/75 R16 E's. These have about 20k on them and show virtually no signs of wear. I got ~60k out of my last set, but they were D's.
BarrelRoll 05-05-2008, 08:56 PM BFG AT KO's are an awsome tire. Also might want to get unlimited rotations with your tires or rotate every oil change if you are just eating rears.
Rat70FJ 05-06-2008, 03:10 PM BFG AT KO's are an awesome tire. Also might want to get unlimited rotations with your tires or rotate every oil change if you are just eating rears.
No doubt, rotation helps with the longevity.
My last set of D rated T/As lasted about 30K with a decent rotation schedule:(
Highway tires are out of the question, I work on some shitty job sites with marginal roads, so an all terrain is the least aggressive tread I want.
I had a set of Truxxus MTs once, they were awesome in the snow and dirt. Lasted 16K miles!
Toyo M55's, the Toyo AT's wear like crap on heavier trucks.
Mechanos 05-06-2008, 06:39 PM No doubt, rotation helps with the longevity.
My last set of D rated T/As lasted about 30K with a decent rotation schedule:(
Highway tires are out of the question, I work on some shitty job sites with marginal roads, so an all terrain is the least aggressive tread I want.
I had a set of Truxxus MTs once, they were awesome in the snow and dirt. Lasted 16K miles!
In my experience, BFG A/T KO's work well in every terrain type except mud. Dry dirt is fine, but in mud, they tend to just load up and don't clean out well. Other than that, I like them just fine. Good, loooong lasting tire.
f2504fun 05-09-2008, 06:45 PM I have an 02 powerstroke with 36 inch tires I got 10k out of a set of swamper radials, 12k out of a set of parnelli jones Then I chipped my truck and have 40k mostly towing with 37 inch toyo MTs, I think I am going to get 50k out of them, and I drive like an asshole
jeepguy365 05-17-2008, 06:06 PM I know they are not load rang E but what about cooper discovery st in 285/75R16? I've looked at the bfgs but found a screamin deal on the coopers.
jpfrk2001 05-17-2008, 07:06 PM Michalins all the way.
Good road manners, quit, long lasting.
Me and My father and the rest of the family stick with these for the trucks
1998 dodge CTD 4X4
u2slow 05-17-2008, 08:43 PM We upgrade everything on our rigs... so why do we stick with only load E tires? :rolleyes:
jpfrk2001 05-18-2008, 09:25 AM Because I plan on using mine what it is intended for. Towing large loads. So I want to keep my E range tires as well as the stock size. I don't know about the others, but no suspension lift, stock tires = reliable tow rig
mikevyota 05-18-2008, 10:13 AM BFG's are the way to go for a strong tire you can tow into the dirt with, and still get a nice ride and miles from. My 265/75R16E's have 8k on them and barely show any wear. I rotate every oil change and check the pressures every Sunday.
And yes, stock height tow rigs work better, IMO.
u2slow 05-18-2008, 03:26 PM Because I plan on using mine what it is intended for. Towing large loads. So I want to keep my E range tires as well as the stock size. I don't know about the others, but no suspension lift, stock tires = reliable tow rig
I meant better that E rated tires. I run my service van with H-rated (19.5"). Never going back to anything as light-duty as E's for this type of rig.
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