: Aluminum Radiator


randii
07-16-2002, 11:05 AM
I'm looking for a 13x31, 14x29, or 15x24inch radiator (in order of preference, first-to-last). Space is VERY tight, courtesy of my motor swap, unless I want to tear out most of the front radiator bulkhead.

I have searched extensively here and elsewhere for a radiator that will work with my specific application... very wide, but not too tall.
Absolute: www.absoluteradiator.com
Radiator.com: www.radiator.com
AFCO Racing: www.afcoracing.com
Howe: www.howeracing.com
Ron Davis: www.rondavisradiators.com
Griffin: www.griffinrad.com

All of these places carry SCADS of radiators, and some can custom-make them for pretty reasonable prices... but I'd like something replaceable, instead of a one-off custom piece.

Does anyone here know of an exceptionally short-and-wide stock application?

Hell, I'm even willing to section (i.e. shorten) and re-tank a top/bottom tank conventional brass radiator if it is wide enough...but I'd prefer aluminium. :D

Randii

morpheus
07-16-2002, 11:09 AM
try this place:

http://www.alumrad.com

- jack

zags
07-16-2002, 11:12 AM
I know the little Jeep Cherokees 4.0l had had a very short ,wide
radiator. I dont know the exact dimensions.

randii
07-16-2002, 11:42 AM
FWIW, here's a simple diagram of where it needs to fit:
http://www.autobodypartsonline.com/images/1482.jpg

That's a view from the front. The radiator needs to go above the bottom vaguely-tubular crosspiece, and still slot in under the rail above. The headlight buckets are about 32" apart.

Randii

Brandon
07-16-2002, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by zags
I know the little Jeep Cherokees 4.0l had had a very short ,wide
radiator. I dont know the exact dimensions.

Speaking of which mine just sprung a leak - any suggestions for a cheap (money not quality) replacement?

randii
07-16-2002, 12:25 PM
Brandon, check out the links in the first post. Radiators.com has GREAT prices on stock replacements, if that's what you need.

What ARE you running in your Fordota? :D

Randii

Belly Dragger
07-16-2002, 12:36 PM
Randii why not find the best but a little big best fit then hack up the front clip then build brackets for the fascia?

Cheaper than a custom and possibly better cooling for that Cobra.

JKOZ
07-16-2002, 01:22 PM
How about 14 1/8" X 29 1/4" Part # 342TM
Howe Racing Enterprises

randii
07-16-2002, 02:02 PM
Randii why not find the best but a little big best fit then hack up the front clip then build brackets for the fascia?
I may have to do that, but I'd like not to. The radiator bulkhead holds up the whole front of the front clip, and you can kind of see the channel support that runs along its bottom in the picture I posted... I'd like to leave that channel untouchedif at all possible.

I'm off to the Howe website again to check for Part # 342TM -- I musta missed that the first time, because it sounds PERFECT. Thanks, JKOZ :beer: :beer: :beer:

Randii

DUG
07-16-2002, 02:30 PM
XJs had a radiator about 12x36" if I remember right. I got a 12x36" from Howe for my XJ V8 swap and it works killer.

HTH

jdjanda
07-16-2002, 02:42 PM
Originally posted by Brandon


Speaking of which mine just sprung a leak - any suggestions for a cheap (money not quality) replacement?

Pepper 99 cents
Bars Stop under $5.00
Propane Torch, and solder less than$30.00

Held for two months :D
Depends on how bad the leak is, is it repairable?http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=403575

morpheus
07-16-2002, 02:47 PM
will a rad that wide not hit your PS box Randii ?

- jack

randii
07-16-2002, 03:00 PM
JKOZ pinned it -- thanks, man.

I still have to finalize cost and depth (time zone puts me outside of business hours), but the 342TM should fit like it was MADE to slot in there.
14.25 Tank height
14.375 Total height
29.25 Total width - bottom
29.25 Total width - top
24.375 Core width
14.125 Core height

The only rub is that the 342TM is a Chebby radiator, so it has a passenger-side filler neck, passenger side outlet, and driver-side inlet, instead of a driver-side fill-neck, driver side outlet, and passenger-side inlet for Ford. Guess my Isuzu hoses won't fit :p

Thanks, all!

Randii

randii
07-16-2002, 03:10 PM
will a rad that wide not hit your PS box Randii ?
No worries, there... the stock steering box sits well behind the radiator bulkhead, and the new radiator is gonna mount forward of that bulkhead. There should be plenty of room for the radiator.

... the fan, on the other hand. THAT's gonna be entertaining. The serpentine really bolluxes up a bunch of space. I *may* be able to sneak a couple of small pullers into there, with the motors offset between the zigs and zags of the belt. I can clear the blades, but dunno about the motors. Every thought of putting the blades on the back of the radiator and the motor on the front? :D

I have a coupla old Mercedes pushers, but I have little faith that they'll provide enough airflow by themselves...

Randii

Brandon
07-16-2002, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by randii
Brandon, check out the links in the first post. Radiators.com has GREAT prices on stock replacements, if that's what you need.

What ARE you running in your Fordota? :D

Randii

Modine, it is about 19.5"x32" :)

Just hack the front, built a support that encases the radiator and ties the body together as well.

I just swapped my water gauge again, none of em seem to register or my engine likes to run real cold!

Schly
07-16-2002, 10:52 PM
Randii,

Yes, the Jeep Cherokee Radiators are very short and wide. I happen to have one for sale in very good condition if anyone needs one. It's out of the truck if you need me to measure anything for your application.

John

randii
07-17-2002, 01:04 AM
Schly, I'd welcome measurements on that radiator... the aluminum radiator above looks good, but one can never have too many options...

Randii

Brandon
07-17-2002, 08:13 AM
Originally posted by Schly
Randii,

Yes, the Jeep Cherokee Radiators are very short and wide. I happen to have one for sale in very good condition if anyone needs one. It's out of the truck if you need me to measure anything for your application.

John

will it fit a 4.0 95 grand ya think?

Schly
07-17-2002, 08:31 AM
Randii,

I will try to get measurements tonight.

Brandon,

I don't have any idea, sorry.

John