I have a 79' Waggoneer with Dana 44 that i want to convert to 5 on 5.5 pattern what spindle, hub, bearings, and rotors will work on my 6 bolt chevy flat top knuckles? please don't tell me to search i have already. thanks

This might help a little. http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=678551


I wish I had kept up with all the part numbers when I built mine.

order rotor and inner bearing from 86 f-150 truck and use the same outer bearing from the waggy, take the spindle and the new inner bearing to a machine shop and have them turn down the spindle to fit the new inner bearing and your set. for about $40 they can turn the spindle down.

so i use the 86 f-150 hub also?

you need 1976-1984 or 1987-1995 Ford hub, rotor, bearing

AUTOZONE PART # FOR FORD BRAKE ROTOR
048859-5492
1984 Ford Truck 1/2 Ton 4wd.


Its the hub housing and Rotor

X2 White7

im pretty sure all you need is the hub/rotor from an late 70-80s ford truck/bronco. spindle, bearings work inside that

you need 1976-1984 or 1987-1995 Ford hub, rotor, bearing

im pretty sure all you need is the hub/rotor from an late 70-80s ford truck/bronco. spindle, bearings work inside that

Really?

Have a 84 Waggy converted to 5 on 5 1/2

76 Chevy Dana 44 spindles
76 Chevy Dana 44 flat top knuckles
76 chevy calipers (GM part # 15665667/8
76 Chevy pads
76 chevy backplates
Hub/Rotor Dana 44 66-77 Bronco/F150

TIMKEN Part numbers
76 chevy /85 F-150 inner wheel bearings Set 35
76 chevy /85 F-150 outer wheel bearings Set 37
76 Chevy /85 F-150 Front axle spindle outer oil seal 722109
76 Chevy /85 F-150 Front axle spindle inner oil seal 722108
76 Chevy /85 F-150 Spindle bearings B2110
Inner Wheel bearing seal (fits back of hub) Chevy 24898 Ford 24917
Rotor bearings inner 603049 outer 501349

He doesn't need to do the whole chevy thing unless he wants the better brake calipers,,I did i went with chevy from the knuckle out with the ford rotors

thanks guys i have all of the chevy stuff. have not measured but the chevy and jeep spindles appear to be the same. got rebuilt gm calipers, gm backing plates, flat top gm knuckles, and new i believe the later model ford rotors as they were the closest to the dimensions of the gm rotors. question is with the above combination what hub and bearing combo do i need to get to make it all work? thanks again guys. from what i just read in one of the mags. is that the bronco 44's with 6 bolt spindles had drum brakes and the 75-76 broncos have 5 bolt spindles. i don't know anything about fullsize ford 1/2 tons.

You need the small bearing chevy spindles to work with the ford rotors, you can have the big bearing spindles turned down if you have them. Fords with drums had the same 6 bolt spindle pattern as chevy/jeep, disc brake fords had 5 bolt spindles.


Brewchief:D

so i can use my disk brake chevy/jeep spindles with any ford d44 5 bolt spindle? what bearings, races and seals?

i mean hub not spindle

You use the stock bearings for the ford rotor, but it only works with the early chevy small bearing spindles, the later chevy and at least some of the jeep spindles have a larger inner bearing and won't work. Search some of the early bronco sites, your basicly doing the same swap that is done on an early bronco to get disc brakes without swapping knuckles.


Brewchief:D

To piece something together from junkyard parts! For this you will need Chevy spindles (a spindle with 6 mounting holes and the small inner bearing surface), and in addition to those you can use some 1958-77 (Dana 44-5F) Chevy 1/2 ton front spindles (Blazer, 1500, GMC trucks also), 1974-1976 Jeep Wagoneer/J-Series spindles, and any 10 Bolt/Wagoneer spindle that has the larger inner bearing and just take it with the NEW Ford inner bearing to a machine shop and they can mill it down for that bearing for about $40 for both spindles. These spindles have the correct 6 bolts to hold it on to the knuckle (Ford spindles use 5 bolts to hold them on to the knuckle). Then use a Ford wheel bearing hub & manual locking hubs. Ford has 5 on 5 1/2 bolt pattern, uses the same bearings as Chevy's (they are 6 lug), and use the Ford rotors ($21 for '79 F150 rotors). Another way to go is to use some mid 1970's Dodge 1/2 ton truck assemblies, roughly the same years as the Jeep. With the Dodge's you can also get the flat top steering knuckle plus all these parts to convert to 5 lug, since Dodge shares the same bolt pattern. I found you can use any manual lock out set-up (1971-79 Bronco- F150- D44-1F, 70-76 F100- D44-7F, 59-68 F-100 d44 & D44-7F) from a half ton Ford, F-100, F-150, Bronco. Just take the Chevy spindle with you and make sure the bearings go on.

Brewchief: Totally off the subject but who's BOOBs are those?

Brewchief: Totally off the subject but who's BOOBs are those?

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Brewchief:D

You need to stop to talking to me on the computer! LOL!

Yeah, save that for when you get married. :-)

Chevy small bearing spindle on the left, Waggy spindle on the right.

http://www.jjkates.com/jeep/jeep/waggy%2044%20build/gallery/spndles2.jpg

If you machine the waggy spindle, you need to cut the shoulder back too.

http://www.jjkates.com/jeep/jeep/waggy%2044%20build/gallery/spindles.jpg

This is what happens if you don't machine the shoulder back, ford rotor and machined waggy spindle on the right:

http://www.jjkates.com/jeep/jeep/waggy%2044%20build/gallery/wagmach.jpg

Waggy rotor and waggy spindle on left, ford rotor and chevy small bearing spindle on right.

http://www.jjkates.com/jeep/jeep/waggy%2044%20build/gallery/wagchev.jpg

thank you very much tantj what ford hub and rotor is that? does it use the ford bearings?

has anyone checked to see if you can just get a different sized bearing to fit??

ha ha that would be too easy.... X2.. good question:smokin: Im tryin to get the parts together to do this very same swap for my yj.

thank you very much tantj what ford hub and rotor is that? does it use the ford bearings?

I'll try to look through my receipts today and see if I can come up with a part number. I'm pretty sure I got it at NAPA.

Those rotors are NAPA part number 4886297 or 86927 , I paid $40.99 ea.
in 01/07.

I bought the wheel bearings at AutoZone. I think because they carry Timken.

2 Set 45 bearings, $10.49 ea.

2 Set 37 bearings, $14.99 ea

The NAPA rotors have the bearing races already installed.

I got the calipers from Advance, part number 184209, $14.44 (+$20.00) core charge.

I don't have a part number handy for the wheel seals that press on the back of the rotor.

BK-1 is the part number for the spindle seal kit, I think the spindle bearing is in that kit too. If memory serves, NAPA sells a couple of different kits, one with everything and another that does not have the spindle bearing or the metal flange that presses onto the outer axle shaft.

looked this morning have the small chevy spindles thanks for the pics. any early ford hub/ rotor combo works?

you can use any manual lock out set-up (1971-79 Bronco- F150- D44-1F, 70-76 F100- D44-7F, 59-68 F-100 d44 & D44-7F) from a half ton Ford, F-100, F-150, Bronco.

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sorry to hijack...quick question

i was told on naxja i could use ford hub/rotors to convert my waggy. i went out and got 85 bronco hubs/rotors. theyre 5X5.5 with locking hubs. i haven't tried to put it together yet, but will this combo not work with stock waggy spindle/bearings. if i do use these ford hubs/rotors what else would i need to make it work

thanks

sorry to hijack...quick question

i was told on naxja i could use ford hub/rotors to convert my waggy. i went out and got 85 bronco hubs/rotors. theyre 5X5.5 with locking hubs. i haven't tried to put it together yet, but will this combo not work with stock waggy spindle/bearings. if i do use these ford hubs/rotors what else would i need to make it work

thanks

from my post above... :shaking:

you will need Chevy spindles (a spindle with 6 mounting holes and the small inner bearing surface), and in addition to those you can use some 1958-77 (Dana 44-5F) Chevy 1/2 ton front spindles (Blazer, 1500, GMC trucks also), 1974-1976 Jeep Wagoneer/J-Series spindles, and any 10 Bolt/Wagoneer spindle that has the larger inner bearing and just take it with the NEW Ford inner bearing to a machine shop and they can mill it down for that bearing for about $40 for both spindles.

all bold type are the small bearing spindles.. the 10 bolt and later waggy spindles 1977-1991 have the larger inner bearing that needs to be turned down..

Yeah, save that for when you get married. :-)

Chevy small bearing spindle on the left, Waggy spindle on the right.

http://www.jjkates.com/jeep/jeep/waggy%2044%20build/gallery/spndles2.jpg

If you machine the waggy spindle, you need to cut the shoulder back too.

http://www.jjkates.com/jeep/jeep/waggy%2044%20build/gallery/spindles.jpg



Sorry for bringing up an old post, but I found last night that I had two different small bearing spindles. One like the one above, and one that didn't have the step on the bolt surface. The one without the step would make my rotor too close to the caliper mounting bracket. What is this spindle from? I don't have any pics right now since Rockwild has the spindle. Just trying to figure out where we went wrong.

as far as i know there are 2 different 6 bolt spindles the jeep style which won't work with the ford rotor and the dodge/early chevy (as far as i know all pre 10 bolt half ton disk brake front axles) style which will work with the ford rotor/bearing setup. and i used waggoneer stub axles w/stock ford hubs. If you have anymore questions feel free to ask.

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-Chris