: what size hiems for 4 link?


fc187
10-07-2001, 11:57 PM
What size hiems are you running on your 4 link <IMG SRC="smilies/question.gif" border="0">

robellis77
10-08-2001, 05:47 AM
3/4 or 1", and don't be stupid and get the cheapest ones you can find. You will get what you pay for.

fc187
10-08-2001, 07:02 AM
Originally posted by BroncoRob:
<STRONG> and don't be stupid and get the cheapest ones you can find. </STRONG>

whats with this "dont be stupid" crap?


are you assuming because I asked a question, I am stupid?
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Cochese
10-08-2001, 07:43 AM
I am currently using 3/4" thread, 3/4" bore heims that are cheap. Spend the extra money and get the ones that are wear resistant. Just grab and Aurora catalog. In the future I will go with a 3/4" thread 5/8" bore heim. Stonger and more misalignment.

SHERPA
10-08-2001, 08:13 AM
Hey there FC...

I got lucky and found a bunch of nice Aurora
1.250" heims at a surplus outfit here. (I won't tell you what I paid <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">....
But when I called an Aurora distributor to
buy a couple more, they told me the spec/pn
for what I had only cost about $55/each.
I think that's a good price for such a huge
part. The ball and socket are the size of
most larger farm equipment 3-point peices,
but these are aircraft-tollerance parts.
I called the Smith Company--? in San Fran
for these prices. look somebody up in the
yellow pages under bearings..

Good Luck

---Sherpa

robellis77
10-08-2001, 08:35 AM
whats with this "dont be stupid" crap?


are you assuming because I asked a question, I am stupid?



HEY, drink your morning coffee and chill the FAWK out. I was just trying to be helpful. I see too many people buy $10 heims and then complain when they where out in 2 weeks. GET IT!! <IMG SRC="smilies/crybaby2.gif" border="0">

robellis77
10-08-2001, 08:47 AM
Sometimes I read peoples posts and say "come on if you got thru 3rd grade you wouldn't spell that wrong" and then I go and say "where out." Maybe another cup of java will help <IMG SRC="smilies/blush2.gif" border="0">

CJ Lagos
10-08-2001, 01:56 PM
A good rule of thumb is to size the heim to the size bolt you need, and go from there. I use QA1 3/4"-3/4" heims. They are teflon lined, and have both 3/4" bore and 3/4" thread. The series number are HMR-T and HML-T.

Anyway, if your using a 3/4"-3/4" heim, the 3/4" bolt through the heim will fail before the heim will. This is my experience from speaking with the racing community.

In my setup, I use the 3/4-3/4 heims, with a 3/4 to 5/8" reducer, a 5/8" bolt and misalignment spacers.

Good luck,

CJ

dirtrod
10-08-2001, 03:07 PM
3/4 x 3/4 means nothing at all, it's the radial load rating that makes the difference...3/4 joints can range from 5000 lb. rating to whatever you want to pay for.

Anyway, I have broken about a 1/2 dozen (or more) 3/4 x 3/4 aurora and other brands in the last year, but the 3/4 x 5/8 endura XM series from rodendsupply seem to be very tuff, 40,000 lb rating, teflon liner, nice stuff, I haven't broken one of them yet, they look small but they are holding up so far.

GOFER
10-08-2001, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by dirtrod:
<STRONG>3/4 x 3/4 means nothing at all, it's the radial load rating that makes the difference...3/4 joints can range from 5000 lb. rating to whatever you want to pay for.

Anyway, I have broken about a 1/2 dozen (or more) 3/4 x 3/4 aurora and other brands in the last year, but the 3/4 x 5/8 endura XM series from rodendsupply seem to be very tuff, 40,000 lb rating, teflon liner, nice stuff, I haven't broken one of them yet, they look small but they are holding up so far.</STRONG>


He's talking bout the H series Aurora end they are usually rated a little less than your XAM series cus the housings are smaller but 3/4 H is way beefy.
Edura XM you mention sounds just like XAM series Aurora rod ends and they are stout. I use those on my TJ CA arms. Only drawback is they don't have a lot of misalignment angle compared to the H series. If you use the 5/8 hole end (XAM 10)put a 1/2 to 5/8 sleeve in there and use 1/2" misalignment washerers you can get about 30deg out of them.

dirtrod
10-08-2001, 03:49 PM
Yep it looks like the XAM/XAB 10 series are the same thing as the XM...
I use a 5/8" bolt with a piece of 3/4" X 1/16" wall steel tube for a sleeve on each side of the joint.
It seems the 5/8" thru bolt allows for another 12,000 lb in radial load over the 3/4" thru bolt, in almost all brands.

[ 10-08-2001: Message edited by: dirtrod ]

GOFER
10-08-2001, 04:35 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by dirtrod:
[QB]Yep it looks like the XAM/XAB 10 series are the same thing as the XM...
I use a 5/8" bolt with a piece of 3/4" X 1/16" wall steel tube for a sleeve on each side of the joint.
It seems the 5/8" thru bolt allows for another 12,000 lb in radial load over the 3/4" thru bolt, in almost all brands.

Curious the 5/8 bolt radial load you mention you know of a chart online anywhere? Also how is it that a grade 8 5/8" bolt can be stronger than a grade 8 3/4"?

fc187
10-08-2001, 05:19 PM
Originally posted by BroncoRob:
<STRONG>Sometimes I read peoples posts and say "come on if you got thru 3rd grade you wouldn't spell that wrong" and then I go and say "where out." Maybe another cup of java will help <IMG SRC="smilies/blush2.gif" border="0"></STRONG>


all good bro <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

your diagnossis was on the money. "pre coffee"

I kringe also when I see hardware store hiems on rigs <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0">

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dirtrod
10-08-2001, 05:24 PM
The load capacity increase is in the joint strength only ,because the hole in the bearing is smaller, they can use a smaller spherical bearing and have a thicker "strap" around the bearing. Every joint I have broken has busted the strap that encases the spherical bearing...
Do a search on google.com for "rod end radial loads" or something like that, you should find some good info.