I started with a 1997 TJ. 4cyl, manual. I traded a stock CJ for it and the guy gave me $1500

THIS BUILD STARTED OUT WITH 1 TONS, 42'S ETC. IT HAS TAKEN A TWIST AND IS NOW 2 STEERING ROCKWELLS, INJECTED 496 BIG BLOCK, 16" COILOVERS, 49" IROK'S ETC......

Here is what I started with.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Blue%20TJ/BlueTJ4.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Blue%20TJ/BlueTJ.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Blue%20TJ/BlueTJ1.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Blue%20TJ/100_2349-1.jpg
Here is how it all went down.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Blue%20TJ/100_2346-1.jpg

Interesting, pitman arm sheered off at the steering box? . What are the plans? It's hard to tell from the pics, but the tub looks like it's tweaked, what about the frame?

Made the road trip to TX to pick it up. Here is once I got it home.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Blue%20TJ/cid__0323081516a.jpg

I had bought some stuff I was going to use for my CJ build.
Dana 60 front.
14B rear.
Dana 300 with twin sticks.
Raptor 700R4.
42" TSL's
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/H1%20wheels/DSCN0883-1.jpg
H1 Beadlocks.
TBI 350.

Interesting, pitman arm sheered off at the steering box? . What are the plans? It's hard to tell from the pics, but the tub looks like it's tweaked, what about the frame?

Hold your breath. I'm about to show ya
:D

I bought it off a kid in TX that had it for 1 mo. He was in the service and saved his $ for a jeep when he got back home. He ran out and paid cash for it and didn't have full coverage. He was on his way to work going into Dallas when the pitman arm sheered right off the steering box. He went into the concrete median at 70 MPH. The jeep went over the median and into trafic on the other side where people were doing 70 at him. He slid across 3 lanes of trafic to a stop on the side of the road. The dude lived. I wanted something that was a total piece of $hit so when I got done I would realy have something to show all the work. But I didn't know it was this bad until I had already hauled my jeep there for the trade. No turning back now:D

The fenders and hood were shot.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/DSCN1000.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/DSCN1002.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/DSCN1001.jpg
I had to cut a hole in the side of the fender just to be able to unbolt them
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/DSCN1011.jpg

Talked my brother-in-law into helping me strip this dude down. And yes......The frame was bent. Very bent (in the front) Prob. 6" to the pass. side
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/3.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/DSCN1016.jpg

Time to get the motor, trans, and T case out.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/DSCN1004.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/DSCN1005.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/DSCN1020.jpg

Pile of $hit that came off it.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/DSCN1012.jpg
Final pulling of the engine. The beefy (ugly) front tube bumper saved the front end of the jeep. The motor, trans, and T case were all in perfect shape. I started it and put it into gear to get it on the trailer. 4wd still worked perfect. But the control arms were trashed and the frame was tweaked from the firewall forward.

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/DSCN1031-1.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/DSCN1032-1.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/DSCN1034-1.jpg

At this point I gave Andy "Dookey" a call and had him help out with this a little:D Thanks for bringing the cold ones Andy!! http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/DSCN1033-1.jpg

With all the trash out of the way it was now time to see how bad the frame was:eek:
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/DSCN1045-1.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/DSCN1046-1.jpg

Now the real fun begins:grinpimp:
I took out the big dog.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/DSCN1042-1.jpg
Spot welded in a temp. cross member to keep the frame in the same spot and made my first cut.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/DSCN1047-1.jpg
I made my cuts further forward than where I will end up but wanted to get all the bent up frame out of the way first so I could get to it a little better. Then I made a cut on the other half
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/DSCN1048-1.jpg

Off it fell:laughing:
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/DSCN1050-1.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/DSCN1051-1.jpg

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/DSCN1052-1.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/DSCN1053-1.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/DSCN1059-1.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/DSCN1060-1.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/CID__0430082202a.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Parting%20out/6.jpg

I picked up a used windshield frame that will be geting painted soon and new glass. I also had to pick up some new windshield hinges since the drivers side was trashed.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/AX5/DSCN1081.jpg

I bought a Highline hood from Chris Duram. I like the way it looks a lot and can't wait to get it on:)
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/High%20line%20hood/HighlineHood.jpg

Looks like you have quite the project ahead of you, what are you going to run for suspension?

funny im buildin a 2000 that was in about the exact same shape as that one, atleast your dash wasnt fubarred like mine!!. I just bought a spare frame for $150 and welded all polyperformance brackets on. Ill be posting a thread when I get started swapping the body over.

Looks like you have quite the project ahead of you, what are you going to run for suspension?

I hope Andy doesn't mind me posting pics of his rig, but I'm going to be blueprinting the front of my jeep off of his. As far as the steering, BTF truss, coilovers etc.

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Insperation/a1.jpg

Are u gonna do a 4 link like his or are u planning something different.

I like the looks of his jeep BTW, looks mean

EDIT: I still cant get over what you are starting with, I thought my jeep started out rough, I at least have a straight frame and body, just need to deal with a bit of rust on the tub, and lack of drivetrain/interior/steering. You are definitly going to be extremely proud when u finish.

A few things I have siting around for my build
TBI 350
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/350TBI/TBI3502.jpg
I put disk brakes on the 14 bolt
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/14%20Bolt%20rebuild/DSCN0985-1.jpg
I still need to clean up all the trash on the 60 front that has been welded onto it.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/axles/cid__0228080739a.jpg
I bought 6 42" TSL's
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/axles/TSL42s.jpg

BTF's 14b Truss
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/14b%20truss%20BTF/BTFTruss.jpg
I've started to hack away on the 14b. I'm not sure yet how far I'll end up taking it down
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Shaving%2014B/s14b.jpg
The chain was so I could wheel it forward when the rear wheels were on with my cherry picker.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/floating/DSCN1066-1.jpg

looks like a really good start....what's your plans for the front..are you gonna tube it???

looks like a really good start....what's your plans for the front..are you gonna tube it???

Thanks:D I"m going to use 2x4 square tubeing. I'm not sure what my final wheel base will end up at. 114-116 (guessing). When Andy gets back I'm hoping I can talk him into helping me lay out the front tubeing. I like the fact that I get to build it for what works best for me not have to deal with what the jeep gods built for me as a base. I'm kicking around the idea of having the hood 1-2" lower to help look over it. But I'll have to lay all that stuff out here soon. I just picked up a new Welder so It's about time I start slaping the new frame under there.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/rear%20removal/DSCN1096.jpg

Are u gonna do a 4 link like his or are u planning something different.


It will be 4 linked exactly like his. :D

I need to add that I appriciate all the time Andy has and will be giving towards this project. Without his knowledge I would not have had the balls to take this one on.

looks good. Keep us updated

Looks a 100% better now with the front half chopped off. :flipoff2:


Keep us updated.

It looks good! My 99 was trashed in the front like yours. I used the stock from from the motor mounts back, made everything the way I wanted (i.e. moved brackets around, etc.) and then a few months later made a completely new frame using what I had done on the stock frame as a template.

Here is my build:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=464671

It looks good! My 99 was trashed in the front like yours. I used the stock from from the motor mounts back, made everything the way I wanted (i.e. moved brackets around, etc.) and then a few months later made a completely new frame using what I had done on the stock frame as a template.

Here is my build:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=464671

Thanks for the link. Nice job on the frame!

Todd

Lookin good so far, you got a lot of work ahead of you.

Nice Build. Keep it coming.

Looks a 100% better now with the front half chopped off. :flipoff2:


Keep us updated.


That's what I thought too:flipoff2:

I did get lucky that there wasn't any damage into the tub.

My project also began much the same way. Nice to see it go from what looks like scrap metal to a finished rig. i'll be watching this one.:D

Small change of plans. I just picked up an Atlas II so I'm ditching the idea of the dana 300 with the twin stick I have siting on my bench. I had called JB and the waiting 3 mo. for the 4-1 kit didn't fit with the time frame I'm working with.

If you know of anyone looking for a Dana 300 twin sticked fresh rebuild with stock gears a clocking ring and the addapter from the 700r to the 300 with the new input for the Dana 300 (New in the box) I'm needing to move it.

Found a little time this weekend to pull the rear axle (which I sold) and get the square tubeing and some 1/4" plate. I plan on welding up the front half of the frame this week:D
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/rear%20removal/DSCN1082.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/rear%20removal/DSCN1083.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/rear%20removal/DSCN1084.jpg
Hack time:flipoff2:
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/rear%20removal/DSCN1086.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/rear%20removal/DSCN1087.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/rear%20removal/DSCN1088.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/rear%20removal/DSCN1089.jpg

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/rear%20removal/DSCN1090.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/rear%20removal/DSCN1091.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/rear%20removal/DSCN1092.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/rear%20removal/DSCN1093.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/rear%20removal/DSCN1095.jpg
Picked up a bottle for the new welder:D
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/rear%20removal/DSCN1103.jpg
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((((SOLD THE DANA 300, THE NP231 AND THE AX5))))
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/rear%20removal/DSCN1099.jpg

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/rear%20removal/DSCN1098.jpg
50$ buys a 4cyl motor complete. 122,00 on it.

Very nice picks and work man. I can wait to see this beast ends up. If your front end looks liek Andy's you will looking good.

Shoot me a good combo price on the 300 and adapter.......

PM sent Scott.

Shoot me a good combo price on the 300 and adapter.......

Shoot me a PM on the twin sticked 300 only please...I'm just south of you and have relatives that live in Wichita. Thanks 406 and this build should be nice.

I've got a buddy that needs an AX5 if you still got that one

Shoot me a PM on the twin sticked 300 only please...I'm just south of you and have relatives that live in Wichita. Thanks 406 and this build should be nice.

Sent

I've got a buddy that needs an AX5 if you still got that one

Sold it. Sorry.

I've had this box behind my desk for the past year or so. I thought it was samples or something someone had sent me. Come to find out it was a Yukon 5.38 Ring and pinion (dana 60)that I thought I had sold (it's NEW). Looks like I'll buying the same for the rear and running with 5.38's:grinpimp:

We got started fabing up the new frame for the front. It took a little longer than expected so I'll get back with it tonight (my fault). Here are just a few pics of cleaning up the frame taking the control arms off and geting the right angle on the frame before spot welding the new pieces.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame/DSCN1104.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame/DSCN1105.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame/DSCN1106.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame/DSCN1107.jpg
Filling in some of the small holes that were in the frame (from the factory)
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame/DSCN1108.jpg
We set the first side in at the angle we are running with cuting the piece long just to get a feel for where the flat piece will tie in.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame/DSCN1109.jpg
We put an end to the night after finding out that the wire that came with the new welder was some gasless bull$hit. The welds were not something that was going to work for us not even for tack welds. I'll be picking up some new wire today and we will get back at it tonight.

Def. a sweet project, that is what you have to start with....a sh!t box!

I want to add a special thanks to Andy (Dookey) for all his time in helping me!!! Thanks bro:D

I love my sweet black UPS lady. She brings the best gifts:laughing:
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Atlas%20II/DSCN1111.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Atlas%20II/DSCN1112.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Atlas%20II/DSCN1113.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Atlas%20II/DSCN1114.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Atlas%20II/DSCN1115.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Atlas%20II/DSCN1116.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Atlas%20II/DSCN1117.jpg

We found a couple of days to get with it this weekend and made great progress.

Started with this.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1120.jpg
Put the first 2 pcs on there with a 20 degree cut and made them long so we could lay out the flat runs. Tack welded them so they could be taken off for the cut on the other end
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1122.jpg
Made the 2nd cut once we took them off again.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1125.jpg
Time to burn them in. See. Hi-lifts are good for more than changing a tire:flipoff2:
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1127.jpg

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1130.jpg
Now to the 2nd part.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1132.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1131.jpg
We made them long knowing we would be cuting them down a little
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1133.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1136.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1137.jpg

Time to throw the grill on there just to get a feel.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1138.jpg
I think Andy likes the way it turned out:D
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1139.jpg
Threw the Highline hood on there too.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1142.jpg
We called it a day at this point

Time to cut the extra length off the front so it doesn't look like a forklift.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1144.jpg
Cut the 45's on the ends of the bumper. I'm going to put 2" slugs in it. I'm thinking 4 of them. I'll have see how it works when I draw it on there.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1145.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1146.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1148.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1149.jpg

Threw the hood on there just to get a feel.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1150.jpg
We were about to call it a night when we decided to roll the 14b under there just to see how it would look with the 42's under it.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1150.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1152.jpg
I need to take the tube steps off of it but I sure like the look:D
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1153.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1154.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1156.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1157.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1158.jpg

It is lookin good! Also do you have any more pics of your friends (Andy) jeep? Thanks!

It is lookin good! Also do you have any more pics of your friends (Andy) jeep? Thanks!

I'll let you hit him up for any pictures that you want. Here is a link to his build that has a lot of pics on it.

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=478875

Looking good guys. Andy and I have spent many a late night woring on projects. Sorry I am missing out on this one.

-Eli

Thanks! Can't wait to see yours done! I will be following!

Found some time this weekend to work on the new frame a little.

Took the plasma out and started to cut the fishplates.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/FishPlate/DSCN1173.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/FishPlate/DSCN1175.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/FishPlate/DSCN1174.jpg

Had to do a little work to get the 2x4 tube to match up with the 2 1/4x 4" stock frame. I picked up some 1/8" and plated the new frame to make it even with the stock frame.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/FishPlate/DSCN1180.jpg
Then went back over it with the 1/4"
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/FishPlate/DSCN1188.jpg
Had to grind down the original welds on the frame to make way for the new plates.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/FishPlate/DSCN1176.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/FishPlate/DSCN1177.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/FishPlate/DSCN1178.jpg

I went ahead and just tack welded them but wanted to see how it all worked out before I burned them in.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/FishPlate/DSCN1191.jpg

Got the MORE motor mounts and a stick of DOM so I can get my engine mounted up.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/FishPlate/DSCN1184.jpg
I keep rolling the 14 bolt under it just so I have something to shoot for as you start to wonder if it's even worth it or not.
(Yes I know it's a 14b. It's only in the pic so I can get a feel for what it will look like and the 60 is a bitch to roll around without the steering hooked up)
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/FishPlate/DSCN1192.jpg

I know how you feel, just, the whole process, I feel for you man.

might want to run the numbers on that pinion angle one more time ... i think it might bind the ujoint a bit :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

might want to run the numbers on that pinion angle one more time ... i think it might bind the ujoint a bit :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:

I hope this is a joke :flipoff2: I stated that it is a 14b rolled under there and the fact that the yoke is pointing towards the front might be a little give away:flipoff2:

might want to run the numbers on that pinion angle one more time ... i think it might bind the ujoint a bit :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2: :flipoff2:


Looks good to me but he might need to run a 2 piece shaft:confused::flipoff2::flipoff2:

Seriously sweet build and i'm diggin be color of the h1's:grinpimp:

Got some of my Spyder armor in yesterday. Still waiting for the comp cut corners to show up. I won't use their $hit on my next build. It take WAY to long to get.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Spyder%20Armor/DSCN1194.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Spyder%20Armor/DSCN1195.jpg

I won't use their $hit on my next build. It take WAY to long to get.


You need to buy something already built next time! :flipoff2:

this was my experience with them as well. gen right all the way.

You need to buy something already built next time! :flipoff2:

Sell me yours and we will call it good:flipoff2:

Sell me yours and we will call it good:flipoff2:

30k - friend deal. Don't tell anyone. :D or trade you all you got and 25k. :eek:

nice to see this agin, jason.

nice to see this agin, jason.

Thanks bro....:flipoff2:

Because this project needs so much we have decided to pick one area and run with it. So I'm going to start with the back half. This way I can get all my suspension mounted up and make it easier to move it around using the cherrypicker on the front. So..... For that to happen it was time to start hacking away.

But before that I had to find a place to put my spare.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20half/DSCN1247.jpg
:flipoff2:I think this is the best place:flipoff2:
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20half/DSCN1248.jpg

All jokeing aside. I had to put some weight on the front when I moved the jack stands to the center as it was wanting to tip back without the motor or anything else in the front.
NOW. It's time to start hacking.
I started to make a cut more forward where I wanted to be but there was to much in my way so I decided to make the cut further back than where I will end up.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20half/DSCN1249.jpg
Andy giveing a big hello:flipoff2:
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20half/DSCN1250.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20half/DSCN1251.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20half/DSCN1252.jpg

We put the jack under the gas tank so the back half of the frame didn't come crashing on our legs.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20half/DSCN1253.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20half/DSCN1254.jpg

I'm sure going to miss those killer tube bumpers:grinpimp:
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20half/DSCN1255.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20half/DSCN1256.jpg
Ahhh Ya! Now I have cut 80% of the original frame off:eek:
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20half/DSCN1257.jpg
I'm going to have to clean up all the trash on the frame and get it cut back a lot more so I have a good clean place to weld the new frame I'll be makeing back on.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20half/DSCN1258.jpg
Goodbye 1/8" $hit!!
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20half/DSCN1259.jpg

Looks good so far.. you guys are making good progress, looks like you'll have it done this weekend! :flipoff2:


I love the hood, how much did it set you back?

the jeep is lookin good. im gonna watch this build and get ideas for my dads/mine build on my jeep. keep up the good work!

Just wanted to say good work so far and I can't wait to see the finished product.

Just wanted to say good work so far and I can't wait to see the finished product.


Thanks.

The average guy has no clue how much time is spent with a flapdisk or cuting wheels cleaning up and taking $hit off the frame. Mike came over lastnight and helped a bunch. We were able to get a lot of stuff done that I couldn't have done myself in a short amount of time. Thanks bro:D

no prob. let me know when you are ready to fire her up again. i will bring some of my gear so we can crank out the rest in a hurry.

Lookin great Todd. Talked with Chris this am and my Hood should be here tom. I see his Jeep is in the new JP magazine and blurp about his hoods so I bet they will start to show up more now.

Keep up the good work and come see me back on the 'other' forum for progress on my rig.

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20half/DSCN1250.jpg


That guys pretty hawt!! :flipoff2:

The average guy has no clue how much time is spent with a flapdisk or cuting wheels cleaning up and taking $hit off the frame.
Grinding is definitely one of my least favorite things about the whole build process... :barf:


Keep up the good work!

Keep up the good work and come see me back on the 'other' forum for progress on my rig.

"THE OTHER FORUM" Banned me:flipoff2: I guess I was a little to hardcore for their juniorhigh attitude:shaking:

With the back of the frame cut off I thought it would be a good time to slap the comp corners on that finaly came in. But before I could get to that I had some more $hit to take off the frame.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Comp%20Cut/DSCN1288.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Comp%20Cut/DSCN1289.jpg

I'm well aware of the fact that the corners are not in the exact place but I slaped them on there just so I would know where to cut above.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Comp%20Cut/DSCN1292.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Comp%20Cut/DSCN1293.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Comp%20Cut/DSCN1294.jpg
I knew it wasn't perfect but it didn't matter. I started to cut about an inch above where the bottom of the new corners would go.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Comp%20Cut/DSCN1296.jpg

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Comp%20Cut/DSCN1297.jpg
Now I have a feel for what she is going to look like:D
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Comp%20Cut/DSCN1298.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Comp%20Cut/DSCN1299.jpg
I know I have said this before but I might say it another 100 times. Plasmas are kick @ss. That thing saved me so much time cuting all the braces out.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Comp%20Cut/DSCN1301.jpg
That's what I'm talking about!!! Just a little flap disking and it will be good to go.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Comp%20Cut/DSCN1302.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Comp%20Cut/DSCN1303.jpg
I like the look. Now I just need to slap the rockers under there. Get them to all line up and start drilling holes for them.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Comp%20Cut/DSCN1304.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Comp%20Cut/DSCN1306.jpg

I do like the fact that Spyder is now adding their logo to the back of the corners. Nice touch.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Comp%20Cut/DSCN1309.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Comp%20Cut/DSCN1312.jpg

let me know when you are going to wrench some more. I am done with Travel for a while. Rims look killer!

let me know when you are going to wrench some more. I am done with Travel for a while. Rims look killer!

I'll have to take you up on that. Let me know what you have going on this week. Thanks again for all the help!! There is no way I could pull this off without all the help from Andy and yourself.:shaking:

coming out really schweet! what are teh suspension plans, link ends, CO's, etc?

sah-weet start man....front looks like how i did my roomate's TJ; it turned out sweet so im sure that will be no different. I'll have my build of his jeep on here once im done...

coming out really schweet! what are teh suspension plans, link ends, CO's, etc?

I'll be doing coil overs on all 4 corners. Just bought my BTF front truss with the ram mount so it's full hydro time. It will see some street time so I'm not 100% sure on the ends yet but I'll prob run with heim joints. I'll be upgradeing the knucklets on the front and am looking for a new set of 35 spline outers to go with my new premium lockouts. It will be 4 linked all around and I'm not 100% sure what I'll be doing for lockers. I run arb's in my other jeep but I'm kicking around the idea of the OX locker up front. Prob. run with a detroit in the rear.

Aweseom! I think you will be happy with the detroit in the rear (running o a 14 bolt for a few years now, no issues). I am running an ARB on the front, but looking back could have gone with a Detroit since I am keeping the manual hubs. I bought the outer 35's from 4wdfactory.com greta princes at the time. Doug (Highhonda on the board) also sells them for a pretty good deal.

What length are you planning for teh arms as far as a ballpark? I am gathering parts to convert my rig to CO on the front and need to figure out links, mounts, etc...

Definitely keeping an eye on the build!

heheh :D Actually was a nbummer that Tomb'd thread seems to be gone, is it still around? had a lot of greta info.

I resemble that remark. :grinpimp:

Sorry:flipoff2:

I'd sure like to know if they are ever going to let me back on or if it was a 30 day banning. I'd like to move some H1's on that site. I can't get any info from anyone. I guess I'm not loved over there anymore:mr-t:

Now you just cut out the old center and weld on the rock ring and your in there. These are cake:smokin: Not to mention when you put the new center in there you can do whatever bolt patern you want. It's because of Copperheadfab.com that I'm able to sell the piss out of these wheels. Thanks for the hookup guys:grinpimp:

No Problem. :D

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Centers%20H1/DSCN1364.jpg

got the front of the frame primered up. This pic was when I was only half done. It looks great:flipoff2:

Todd stop messing with the H1 wheel project business and get this Jeep finished... or atleast get lined out with some pvc inserts and shoot me over a cost on 5 of them. Now that the Durham hood is gone I can buy some more goodies to shit in the garage.

You must be wanting lots of width since you knocked those H1's down to about 2 1/4" of backspacing. I'm about to cut into mine and looking for about 3 3/4". Looking good bud :D

Todd stop messing with the H1 wheel project business and get this Jeep finished... or atleast get lined out with some pvc inserts and shoot me over a cost on 5 of them. Now that the Durham hood is gone I can buy some more goodies to shit in the garage.

You must be wanting lots of width since you knocked those H1's down to about 2 1/4" of backspacing. I'm about to cut into mine and looking for about 3 3/4". Looking good bud :D

I've had a hard time of late finding time to work on the jeep. With 2 girls under the age of 3 I feel bad leaving them with the wife all day so I can go work on my project. Plus...I live in the country and between keeping horses going and the place mowed up it's about a full time job. My project has been geting worked on at night time when the kids are asleep. As for the width. I want lots of it. Because I have a deck over gooseneck trailer width isn't a problem. I'm shoting for wide and low. After all....Since I have hundreds of 12 bolts to chose from if I dont' like the width I'll sell them and make more:D Keep me posted on your build since I can't follow it on the other forum:flipoff2:

Thought I would throw up a pic with the rear rolled under there with the comp corners on. I know it's all kinds of low but it's still on jack stands. I have to take pics like this from time to time to keep me going on it. Man there is a lot of work in a build when you start with nothing.
(You can see the 2x4 square tube laying by the side of the jeep that will soon be the new back half of the frame.)

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Comp%20Cut/DSCN1310.jpg

man looking good, i like the quick write up on the H1's. i never heard back from JF about what we talked about so i guess your screwed:laughing:, jason.

man looking good, i like the quick write up on the H1's. i never heard back from JF about what we talked about so i guess your screwed:laughing:, jason.

Thanks. It's geting there. I was talking with Andy last week and half jokeing I told him I'm prob. only 1/8th done. At the same time we said. If that.

It kind of hurts when you look at it like that. All the time up to this point and to think that I'm maybe 1/8th of the way there?:( That's alright. It's what keeps me going.

hope i aint included with that "band happy pricks"? :flipoff2:

looks like you have come a long way since the original 406yj huh?:D
lookin good mate

martin

todd, i can see that mate!:smokin:
ahh i remember the days of you asking about what axles will hold upto a V8 in a yj....:D
made lots of progress it looks like! keep the good work up mate, makin me jealous of all the time you got to build that thing!

martin

any updates, jason.

any updates, jason.

Yup. It is still a shit box. :flipoff2:

Yup. It is still a shit box. :flipoff2:

good glad to here nothing changed:D, jason.

good glad to here nothing changed:D, jason.

:laughing:

any updates, jason.

Ya....The updates are that I'm kicking around the idea of rockwells with rear steer. I have a lot of reading to do and will have a lot of stuff to sell off too If I go that way. Knowing that I'm on the fence as to which way to go has me not buying anything else for the jeep at this exact point until I can find some time to research this out. For now.........:flipoff2:

Ya....The updates are that I'm kicking around the idea of rockwells with rear steer. I have a lot of reading to do and will have a lot of stuff to sell off too If I go that way. Knowing that I'm on the fence as to which way to go has me not buying anything else for the jeep at this exact point until I can find some time to research this out. For now.........:flipoff2:

well, if your riding the fence then just do it. i have been sitting on a set of steer rock's for a while ( and no the not for sale:flipoff2: ) i will get them into a small buggy in a few years. but once you check them out you will be convinced buy there BEEF. keep us posted, jason.

If you're serious about selling some stuff off the jeep...shoot me a PM on what axles you were planning on running and how much you want to sale them for.

If you're serious about selling some stuff off the jeep...shoot me a PM on what axles you were planning on running and how much you want to sale them for.

Will do. Let me see if I can get some Rocks bought right and if so I'll get back with ya. I have a front and rear BTF truss the front is made for Full Hydro. 6- 42" TSL's 5.38 Yukon gear for the 60. I put disk brakes on the 14 b. I'll keep ya posted.

i'm Kicking Around The Idea Of Rockwells With Rear Steer.


Dooo Eeeettt!

If you decide to get rid of the 42s let me know.

Curious as to what the runout ended up being on your wheels? I am planning on doing basically the same thing except using some machined spacers most likely since mine will be a DD rig.

I'm really interested in the 60...I already have a 14 bolt with discs, KORE truss, and 5.38's! Good luck on the rockwell search.

REEELEASE THE HOUNDS!!!! :laughing:

Been watching for a bit and have to say am looking forward to the finished product. Definitely like the beadlocks. I cannot believe what you started with. Wow.:smokin:

Not much has changed since you got the POS. Why not rhino line everything before getting in that deep??

Not much has changed since you got the POS. Why not rhino line everything before getting in that deep??

1.) because this isn't your fawking build.

2.) because this isn't YOUR FAWKING BUILD.


:shaking:

Yeah I know, Have you seen my build? If not then I would look before talking to much.

Nicely done!

Personally, I think you should just keep the 60/14 combo. Yes, rockwells are beefy! BUT do you really need the beef? I think you're just going to make it heavier and the 60/14 will hold up to what 95% of wheelers actually need. Yeah, you might break a stock shaft or u-joint, but upgrade and you can have almost bulletproof axles with less weight IMO.

Now, I do think it would be cool as hell, and you'd probably never have to deal with breakage.

If you've ever broken a dana 60 multiple times with a comparable vehicle then you probably do need the rockwells. But if your vehicles (comparable, not a yj on 33's) have held up in the past with 1 tons or less then your driving style most likely doesn't necessitate rockwells.

I also don't know what you've built up before since I'm fairly new here, so maybe I'm just wrong altogether.

This is a line I have been walking. When I sat down to do my build orig. I was going to do a rear steer 60. But I talked myself out of it. After looking at all the money I was throwing toward the 60 I started to think....Why not go with rockwells and do the rear steer that way? Much stronger axle and I'd rather over build than guess at what I'm going to run into down the road. Plus I want to go bigger. I'm thinking 46's are a good fit:D To get the 60 to where I would feel good pounding on it on 46's would take some coin. Why not start with something stronger? After all they are only 200#'s heavier. This is the line I have been walking....... We will see.

Nicely done!

Personally, I think you should just keep the 60/14 combo. Yes, rockwells are beefy! BUT do you really need the beef? I think you're just going to make it heavier and the 60/14 will hold up to what 95% of wheelers actually need. Yeah, you might break a stock shaft or u-joint, but upgrade and you can have almost bulletproof axles with less weight IMO.

Now, I do think it would be cool as hell, and you'd probably never have to deal with breakage.

If you've ever broken a dana 60 multiple times with a comparable vehicle then you probably do need the rockwells. But if your vehicles (comparable, not a yj on 33's) have held up in the past with 1 tons or less then your driving style most likely doesn't necessitate rockwells.

I also don't know what you've built up before since I'm fairly new here, so maybe I'm just wrong altogether.

Was that the gold YJ???

No, no...you sold that to buy the built TJ.

No...ahhhh...it was the CJ to putter around in and not hurt the TJ.

Damn...no it was the 60/14b leaf sprung the CJ so you could go "big."

Shit....no, it is the wrecked TJ linked cause you wanna beat the piss outta it.

Well...hell. Now it's rockwells.....maybe.

You remind me of a snippet I once saw.....


"406YJ: Yes doctor I have a problem...."
"What is it?" the doctor says concerned.
"406YJ: I have a wheelin' problem."
"Doctor: Oh yeah!?! What seems to be the problem?"
"406YJ: Well.....I never go."



Friend to friend.....


You need to just throw some shit together and wheel. There are folks here (me included) that just took a welder and hack fab'd shit up and wheel the piss out of it. Beat the snot out of it....and come back the following weekend for some more assuming they have gas money. I've now known you for roughly 2 years. I've yet to see or hear of you wheel. Fire roads and rocks smaller than basketballs don't count. :flipoff2:

I don't know you any more than the next guy on this forum.....but dayum already.....wheel SOMETHING. My hacked up YJ made it through moab, colorado, arkansas and countless local trips on nothing more than welds from a 110 clarke welder and wiring twisted together and electrical taped. For fuck sake, todd.....wheel. Knowing when to say when will make you a much happier wheeler......trust me I know.

very true, that's why i have the piece junk with a set of one tons and really no big money into it. i dont have the fancey T-case i want in it, i dont have the hydro steering i want to run, i dont have the beadlocks i want ( or any beadlocks for that matter ).
i have a jeep and i really dont even want a jeep, i want a buggy. this is why ive been collecting parts for a few years now and in the mean time beating a jeep that just keeps taking it.

whats my point, build somthing that can take an ass beating, but wont get you in over your head or overwelm you. yes i break stuff but nothing i cant find at a junkyard or from friends. i say keep your path with the 60/14 bolt. finish it and then get the rocks for a buggy build ( you know you want to build one ). what ever path you find hurry and wheel man, lifes to short, jason.

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1130.jpg
Now to the 2nd part.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1132.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1131.jpg
We made them long knowing we would be cuting them down a little
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1133.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1136.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Frame%201/DSCN1137.jpg

how do u figger the angle on the step in the frame ??

how do u figger the angle on the step in the frame ??

measure once, cut 47 times. How else??




You add the angle of each tube. I can't remember the exact measurement but...


If your up tube is 30 degrees and the flat tube is 90 degrees you get a total of 120 degrees. You divide that in half at 60 degrees and that is your angle to cut so your tube is equal on each end. Clear as mud?

You need to just throw some shit together and wheel. There are folks here (me included) that just took a welder and hack fab'd shit up and wheel the piss out of it. Beat the snot out of it....and come back the following weekend for some more assuming they have gas money.

Right On!!

Nice build though! Can't wait to see it when its done.

measure once, cut 47 times. How else??
There's another way?!

sorry i couldn't make it last night. post up when you can! i will be there next time.

thanks dookey i will give it a try

sorry i couldn't make it last night. post up when you can! i will be there next time.

Mike,

No sweat man. I appriciate what help you have handed my way. I'll let ya know when we get back with it.

Well lastnight we had a chance to get all over the back half of the jeep.

When we went out there lastnight this is where we had left off. Still to much frame existing. We wanted to start where the frame jogs up and take that out so we would have a straight line to work with.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20Fabn/DSCN1402.jpg
Made our cut. Now we have something to work with.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20Fabn/DSCN1403.jpg
Went ahead and burnt in a crossmember to tie in both sides of the frame and give us something flat to work off of.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20Fabn/DSCN1404.jpg
Knowing that the goal was to bring the frame rails in and up we welded on our first piece with the angle to jog it up towards the body.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20Fabn/DSCN1405.jpg

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20Fabn/DSCN1406.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20Fabn/DSCN1408.jpg
This is what we were left with. The open end of the existing frame. A cross member that is in there just for now. And an angle for the next link to take us to the height we are after.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20Fabn/DSCN1417.jpg
I'm sure the question is........What are you going to do with the open end of the stock frame. Triangulation my friend:D
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20Fabn/DSCN1412.jpg

I love the look and I've never seen it done this way.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20Fabn/DSCN1413.jpg
When seting up my rear linkage I'll add the same deal on the back side of it and cut the middle section out and plate the open end. Overall I think it is a great design.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20Fabn/DSCN1416.jpg

how do u figger the angle on the step in the frame ??

why do you think they left all the piecse of tube 6 feet longer, so they can keep cutting till they have it right:flipoff2:. what dookey said is correct, looking good to, jason.

Where do you anticipate the drive shaft will end up throughout the range of travel? Do you plan on having the rear CV above this cross member?

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20Fabn/DSCN1406.jpg

He mentioned the crossmember is temporary. I dig the triangulated frame-in, looks very clean. What are the plans for the rest straight or tube?

I love the look and I've never seen it done this way.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20Fabn/DSCN1413.jpg
When seting up my rear linkage I'll add the same deal on the back side of it and cut the middle section out and plate the open end. Overall I love the look
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Back%20Fabn/DSCN1416.jpg
If you look at the words between the pictures you will see that I say"and cut the middle section out and plate the open end":D
Where do you anticipate the drive shaft will end up throughout the range of travel? Do you plan on having the rear CV above this cross member?

Curious as to what the runout ended up being on your wheels? I am planning on doing basically the same thing except using some machined spacers most likely since mine will be a DD rig.

Don't know if you didn't see this because of all the other questions, but any word on this?

Nice work Todd, Now if you would just move the horse barn out of the fab shop...

very nice...... i like

very nice...... i like

Thanks bro:)

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=704015

Here is the link to the stuff for sale with prices if anyone is interested.

To the guy telling me to just slap some bull$hit under there "So I can Wheel" :flipoff2: I want to do this build once and do it right.

I just bought my 2 steering rockwells and they will ship out monday:D

Half the stuff I have will be going up for sale:smokin:

Chevy King pin 60 front

(not installed) Yukon 5.38 R&P for the 60 front.

14 bolt rear with disk brakes

Rear BTF Truss

Front BTF full hydro truss

6- 42" TSL's Grooved on H1's (that have not been recentered) that have been painted purty.

Warn Prem. 35 spline locksouts

I'd love to see it all go to one dude but it never works that way. I'll be kicking around what I want out of it.

that would be me:flipoff2:. your going to love the rockwells, jason.

You need to just throw some shit together and wheel.

For fuck sake, todd.....wheel. Knowing when to say when will make you a much happier wheeler......trust me I know.

that would be me:flipoff2:. your going to love the rockwells, jason.

Jason it wasn't guided towards you. More from the post above. I think all to often people forget about where they started. There was a time when none of us knew what a dana 30 was. Sure we were young. But don't forget where you started. I feel lucky. I've seen a lot of people hack job $hit together and I don't want to be that guy. You can tell from my pics. I don't take them from the neighbors drive. I don't have anything to hide. I came to this site to get help from people that know what is going on and have done it before. Not to get $hit talked and rush through my build just so I can "Throw some shit together and wheel.":grinpimp:

i know it wasn't ment for me i just like busting your ass now. espcally now and here where we dont/wont get in trouble for it.
i got my rockwells for the same reasion you are, stupide stregth. yes my 60/14 take's good ass whooping but like anything they have limits. rowckwells so far have proven to have no limits with upgraded shafts, i like that idea alot.

are you getting two steering axles, that's what i have. i have to look at the list of parts you have forsale, jason.

dont sell off your 8 lug stuff so soon, keep watching this thread http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=668902 . should see some results soon, jason.

Got the rockwells home. I couldn't wait until the next day to unload them. I was far to excited:D
Got my ol tractor out
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1418.jpg
I don't know why people say they are so heavy. I didn't have a hard time at all and i lifted 2 of them at the same time, by myself:flipoff2:
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1419.jpg
Here they are next to a 60 and 14b. At one time I thought a 14b was huge:eek:
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1420.jpg

Here are just a bunch of pics so when I look back I can see what I started with.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1421.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1422.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1423.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1425.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1426.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1429.jpg

It was about this time I gave Andy a call. I wasn't sure exactly how to tear these dudes down. He told me it was much like the tons but I have to be honest I didn't believe him. Once I got inside he was 100% correct. I don't know why I ever questioned him:shaking:
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1431.jpg
Time to get to work
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1432.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1433.jpg
That was easy enough
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1434.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1435.jpg
Looks a lot like when I just did the 14 bolt disk conv. Only bigger
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1436.jpg

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1437.jpg
I did it the old school way since I didn't have a wrench that big:eek:
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1438.jpg
I'm sure most of you have seen this before but I wanted to do a step by step.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1439.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1440.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1441.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1442.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1443.jpg

After beating on the drum a little off it came
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1462.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1446.jpg
Ended up taking out the cuting wheel and cuting that spring so I could get to the other 2 bolts with the impact.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1447.jpg
Now it's off
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1448.jpg
Nasty dog
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1449.jpg
Nothing a rag won't take off. Took a screwdriver and (not very hard) pulled that back plate.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1450.jpg

That's a Big @$$ spindle.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1451.jpg
Time to pull out the shaft. Step back ladies:D
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1452.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1454.jpg
That's a big O'l knuckle
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1455.jpg

Time to get the hub off the drum.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1462.jpg
Flipped it over on a piece of wood so not to damage the threads
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1463.jpg
Took out the remaining bolts holding it onto the drum
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1465.jpg
Time to hammer away
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1467.jpg
That wasn't tuff at all
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1468.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1469.jpg

Knowing that one of the axles would be going into the rear of the jeep and being excited to see what the 3rd looked like pulled while Andy was over we decided to go ahead and pull one of them.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1457.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1458.jpg
I was shocked to see how clean it was. And how heavy.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1459.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1460.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1461.jpg
I wraped it up and called it a day. Time to clean up some of the mess I made. I'm hopeing this week to find time to get both of them stripped down and 100% cleaned up so I can start puting them back together. (((Hint,Hint, Mike)))

nice :D

nice :D

Thanks,

It will be once I'm done. I got a good buy on the axles but they had been outside a while. There is a lot of dirt on them that has to come off. We were laughing that I'm going to have over 100$ just packing the axles again. I'm thinking I might leave the hubs out the way they are stock and run a bigger backspace on the H1's. Maybe 7". I'll have to see how it all lays out. I'm going to run 47" LTB's on a 16.5 wheel. I need to get them ordered here soon. That way once I rebuild these axles i can start laying out where they will go on the jeep and get my coilovers ordered. I haven't been giving it all that much time for a while since I knew I was going to be going with the rocks and not knowing much about them. I still need to figure out what I'm going to do as far as brakes. If I get lazy I'll go with pinion brakes as I'm not sure I can justify the $ for disks on all 4's.

Looking good bud. Mine is setting in about the same condition as yours now. I took the plasma to all the factory brackets tonite.

When I left them last I still had one axle with the drums on it. Andy stoped by to work on his jeep and Mike came over to help with the rockwells. We were able to get the drums off the 2nd axle.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rocks/DSCN1473.jpg
My goal for the day was to get the knuckles off. There is more to it than meets the eye.

This is the side for the drag link.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rocks/DSCN1474.jpg
Here is the other side
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rocks/DSCN1475.jpg
Time to unbolt the tierod
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rocks/DSCN1476.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rocks/DSCN1477.jpg

I pulled the bolts/nuts from the top and the bottom of the knuckle.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rocks/DSCN1478.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rocks/DSCN1479.jpg
This was the easy side (the one without the draglink arm)
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rocks/DSCN1480.jpg
Nasty dog.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rocks/DSCN1481.jpg
I'm in over 200 shop rags to this point geting all the $hit out of these axles.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rocks/DSCN1482.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rocks/DSCN1483.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rocks/DSCN1484.jpg
I couldn't figure out why these arms were so hard to get off. It's because these were covered in $hit and I couldn't see them. But after a little clean up the arm came right off
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rocks/DSCN1485.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rocks/DSCN1486.jpg

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http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rocks/DSCN1489.jpg
Time to slide the Knuckle off in the keyed spot.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rocks/DSCN1490.jpg
What better than to throw the SHOCKER down on it:flipoff2:
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rocks/DSCN1492.jpg

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rocks/DSCN1493.jpg
After I got all 4 knuckles off it was time to make some room in my garage so I can work on them a little better. The jeep had to find it's way out. My neighbor had an old trailer be brought down.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rocks/DSCN1494.jpg
All this work and it still looks like a $hit box:shaking:
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rocks/DSCN1495.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rocks/DSCN1496.jpg
Threw a tarp over it and it started to rain 5 min. later:D
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rocks/DSCN1499.jpg

Now I can move my cherrypicker all around and get to them much easier.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rocks/DSCN1497.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rocks/DSCN1501.jpg
Time to start cleaning up all the parts. I don't know what I would do without horse stalls to store $hit in:D
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rocks/DSCN1500.jpg

If you are going to be selling that stuff you listed for the 60/14, let me know. I know a guy who is looking for tires right now and needs 16.5.

-Derek

If you are going to be selling that stuff you listed for the 60/14, let me know. I know a guy who is looking for tires right now and needs 16.5.

-Derek

I sold the Tons and the 42" TSL's. The only things I have left from the tons are: a chevy. 60 5.38 Yukon R&P and a complet highsteer set. Arms, tie rod, drag link, TRE's etc.

I'm in the process of geting some 49" Irocs bought. If that deal goes through then I will be going with the Ouverson Super 8 Kit giveing me disk brakes on all 4's and converting it to the 8x6.5 bolt patern. I'll also be upgradeing the front and rear shafts (even thought they are both front axles).:grinpimp:

Well my build just took a little/BIG twist. Here are the new 49" Iroks that will be going on the rockwells. They were mounted on new TR so I picked them up too. I can't wait:smokin:
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/IROK49s/IROK.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/IROK49s/IROK1.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/IROK49s/IROK2.jpg

That's gonna be a bad mofo! :eek:

That's gonna be a bad mofo! :eek:

I think you are right. I kind of crossed a line when I went to the rockwells. Then I decided %&ck it. I'm going all out. I only wish I knew someone local to get some parts cleaned up. I'm about to the point of puting stuff back together with the upgrades but will find myself on hold for the time being without a way to properly clean all the $hit that was on the rockwells. I'm thinking it's time to invest in a sandblaster. Talking with Andy today on 49's and 2 steering axles my wheel base may end up in the 125 range. I can't wait to get the wheels and tires on the super 8 kit so I can roll them under the jeep and see what the stance will look like:smokin:

WOW as always nice picture and write up, but damm you got hairy arms:flipoff2:. if you decide to sell off any of the stock shafts drop me a pm, also the stock drag links with the TRE. looking forward seeing more, jason.

WOW as always nice picture and write up, but damm you got hairy arms:flipoff2:. if you decide to sell off any of the stock shafts drop me a pm, also the stock drag links with the TRE. looking forward seeing more, jason.

Thanks. I think I'm going to keep the stock shafts for now. It's always good to have a backup. I called ouverson and asked if people were haveing any luck running their cromoly 16 spline shafts on 49's and he told me there are a hand full of people running them and they haven't had any problems. He said even at the 16 spline they are 3.5 times stronger than the stock shafts. I will be able to put new shafts in the front and rear for less that I could have bought one front 47 spline shaft. So until I feel the need to upgrade to 47 spline shafts I'm going to hold onto the stockers for backups. Thanks for the offer. As for the drag link stuff for the 60. I'm going to sell it all at once. With the highsteer arms etc. 150 bones takes it all. That's 1/3 of the original cost and they are all new. I'll post up some pics here in a bit. I took them on a trade and don't have a need for them.

Do you shave your arms???:flipoff2:

D60 Highsteer arms, tre's, pitman arm, tierod and drag link have been sold to Brian Aka.(BozoWise)

Thanks bro.:D

I've been watching this thread for a while & it's the reason I've decided to quit building my Rubi & started looking for a crashed TJ. I had to go clean the mess I made in my pants when I saw you were running rockwells now... dont' touch me, I'm going to sleep...



This thing is going to be awesome & I really dig the triangulated frame tie-in. I can't wait to see this thing on the rocks & wish I was closer so I could help build the damn thing, it looks like a lot of fun.

This has been my favorite build of all the ones I've been watching, by far.

:flipoff2:for building my dream rig.

I've been watching this thread for a while & it's the reason I've decided to quit building my Rubi & started looking for a crashed TJ. I had to go clean the mess I made in my pants when I saw you were running rockwells now... dont' touch me, I'm going to sleep...



This thing is going to be awesome & I really dig the triangulated frame tie-in. I can't wait to see this thing on the rocks & wish I was closer so I could help build the damn thing, it looks like a lot of fun.

This has been my favorite build of all the ones I've been watching, by far.

:flipoff2:for building my dream rig.

Thanks for the kind words. I want to start by saying. DON'T CUT ON THE RUBI!!!! They are one of the only jeeps that hold their value just the way they are. I wouldn't dream of takeing out all that make a Rubi a Ruby so you can run full width. Sell it. Buy a stocker or a wrecked one as stated above. But know. There is a lot more work in finding one wrecked than what meets the eye. It all depends on how bad it is but my frame had to be cut off. The grill is tweaked. The hood and windshield hinges were trashed. The top and the frame for the top was trashed. The door uppers were trashed. You spend a lot of time looking for parts and having to paint them than if you found a jeep in stock form with a blown motor or something to that effect. Plus when you have a wrecked jeep there are less parts to sell off to help with your build.

Todd

Yeah, there will be no serious cutting on the Rubi. I was considering a stretch & axles but like you said, why use a Rubi to do that with when I'd just end up taking all the stuff out of it that makes it a Rubi. I'll probably keep it as it'll be payed off soon & keep it for the light stuff & once I get financially setup (house & shop to build in) I'll start a TJ project. Funny thing, I look at craigslist every time I look at this thread though... don't know why because I'm definitely not in the position to start anything like this.

. Funny thing, I look at craigslist every time I look at this thread though... don't know why because I'm definitely not in the position to start anything like this.

I'm not a big fan of Ebay but here is how I work it. Find a jeep or 2 on there that you like. People always think that they are worth more than they are and set their reserve to high. Email them early and get their phone number. When the auction is over see what you can get it bought for or if it doesn't have any bids a few days into it tell them to cancel the auction and you will pay them when you pick it up. That's how I have bought 4 jeeps off of ebay. If you find a smokeing deal on a wrecked one be it that you are ready for it now or not. Get it bought. There is always time down the road.

Todd

I'm not one to give out props unless they are due but I have to tell you Randy at Ouverson is a kick @$$ cat. If anyone is thinking of doing a rockwell build make this your first call!!!!!!! I don't make a habbit to get ideas off of TV but I have to say. I watched Extreme4x4. Where they were building the S10 Truggy. When they showed the size of the 47 spline shafts that Ouverson sells I was like....Fawk it. I'm ditching the tons. I asked him if he had to donate that stuff and he said ya. But the amount of business he has recieved from that has been crazy. He said he is yet to watch it as he has been to busy trying to stay out in front of orders. After talking about what else I need to be able to beat on it when I'm done it hit me. I wish all vendors took half the time to help someone out when they are droping their hard earned coin on their products!!! Hats off to you Randy for you kick @ss service. Here is a free Bump for ya:D

Looks great Todd, you're gonna luv the 4WS and 49's :smokin:. I might have missed it, but do you have a scheduled completion date? Are you going to get it together in time to wheel this fall?

Looks great Todd, you're gonna luv the 4WS and 49's :smokin:. I might have missed it, but do you have a scheduled completion date? Are you going to get it together in time to wheel this fall?


Thanks!!

I'm not exactly sure on the completion date. It's all going to come down to how much time I can find. I can tell you that I won't be done this fall:( I've got to much on my plate right now. I've picked up a lot of stuff this week and can't wait to get the axles finished up so I can start laying out the stance. I want to thank you for leting me bounce all my rockwell questions off of you.:D

Todd

Thanks!!

I'm not exactly sure on the completion date. It's all going to come down to how much time I can find. I can tell you that I won't be done this fall:( I've got to much on my plate right now. I've picked up a lot of stuff this week and can't wait to get the axles finished up so I can start laying out the stance. I want to thank you for leting me bounce all my rockwell questions off of you.:D

Todd

Anytime...never a problem. Let me know if there's anything you need.

I found some time to get started cleaning up the rocks. I started with oven cleaner. I've seen my neighbor do this with old auto parts he gets. I let that soak then hit it with my pressure washer. I then put a 4" wire wheel in my grinder and shitfire. It looks like new!!! I have to download the pics @ my work computer so I'll throw them up in the AM. I had planed on takeing it to be sandblasted but this has been painless. God Bless Rockwells and the man that invented them for making them with square tube:beer:

I'm on the hunt for a Vortec 8.1 If you know of anyone that has one for sale hook me up and I'll get you a case of beer (Finders Fee, ups'ed to your door)if it works out. I'd like to get the computer/mod, wireing harness, trans etc all from one vehicle. I believe I have just switched my build up one more time:flipoff2:
:grinpimp:It's big block time:grinpimp:

I found some time to get started cleaning up the rocks. I started with oven cleaner. I've seen my neighbor do this with old auto parts he gets. I let that soak then hit it with my pressure washer. I then put a 4" wire wheel in my grinder and shitfire. It looks like new!!! I have to download the pics @ my work computer so I'll throw them up in the AM. I had planed on takeing it to be sandblasted but this has been painless. God Bless Rockwells and the man that invented them for making them with square tube:beer:

I'm on the hunt for a Vortec 8.1 If you know of anyone that has one for sale hook me up and I'll get you a case of beer (Finders Fee, ups'ed to your door)if it works out. I'd like to get the computer/mod, wireing harness, trans etc all from one vehicle. I believe I have just switched my build up one more time:flipoff2:
:grinpimp:It's big block time:grinpimp:

Let me talk to my father. I think he has a couple of them. Only problem is he's in Arkansas. (Hot Springs). Let me know if it's too far for ya.

I started out by spraying some cheap oven cleaner on the rocks and leting it sit for 12 hrs.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Cleaning%20Rocks/DSCN1514.jpg
Then I took my pressure washer out and hit it with that.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Cleaning%20Rocks/DSCN1508.jpg

I didn't want to get the gears wet so I taped a trash bag around them when I took the washer to it.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Cleaning%20Rocks/DSCN1506.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Cleaning%20Rocks/DSCN1507.jpg
There is a little dif. between the 2 now.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Cleaning%20Rocks/DSCN1509.jpg

I've had this siting in my tool box for a couple of years but never had a use for it until now. It is one of my new best friends.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Cleaning%20Rocks/DSCN1510.jpg
Here is what they looked like before I hit it with the wire wheel.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Cleaning%20Rocks/DSCN1511.jpg
After about 45 sec.
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I went ahead and threw some primer on it.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Cleaning%20Rocks/DSCN1515.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Cleaning%20Rocks/DSCN1513.jpg

I've had great luck with both of these colors and didn't know which one I would be going with.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Cleaning%20Rocks/DSCN1518.jpg
So I took the bottom of the rocks and painted both colors on them. Since they will be plasmaed off for my BTF Mohawk dif covers. I liked the darker more so that's what I'm going with.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Cleaning%20Rocks/DSCN1517.jpg
:eek:There is a little difference between the 2 axles now:eek:
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Cleaning%20Rocks/DSCN1519.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Cleaning%20Rocks/DSCN1521.jpg
Now time to start on the 3rd and the other axle. I sprayed it with oven cleaner on my way to work today. I just need to hit it with the pressure washer and start over again:shaking:
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Cleaning%20Rocks/DSCN1524.jpg

Yeah Id say theres a little bit of the difference between the two axles now. :p That knotted wire wheel gets it.

The semi just showed up with my wheels/IROKS. I have to say those are some HUGE Fawkers:eek::eek::eek:
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/IROK49s/DSCN1525.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/IROK49s/DSCN1526.jpg
I drive a 1 ton 4wd. It's no small pup. But $hit. These make it look like a matchbox car.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/IROK49s/DSCN1527.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/IROK49s/DSCN1531.jpg

we need to get something under that Jeep so we can mock those up in place....

(I need a Wet-Nap...):smokin:

Holy hell....are you going to be able to wheel it out of the shop with those on? Those things take up the whole pickup bed. That really puts them in perspective...:smokin:

Thanks for all your help Todd btw on the other thing.


Trey

Holy hell....are you going to be able to wheel it out of the shop with those on? Those things take up the whole pickup bed. That really puts them in perspective...:smokin:

Thanks for all your help Todd btw on the other thing.


Trey

:D One end has a standard door the other has a 12' tall 12' wide door. So geting it out won't be a problem:smokin: No sweat.

Todd

Found some time lastnight to finish up the 2nd axle as far as geting it cleaned up primed and painted.

This was when I was waiting on the primer to dry.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells%20Painted/DSCN1540.jpg

Fresh paint
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells%20Painted/DSCN1542.jpg
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http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells%20Painted/DSCN1545.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells%20Painted/DSCN1552.jpg

:eek::eek::eek:Just a little dif. from when I got them to now:eek::eek::eek:

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1424.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1421.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells%20Painted/DSCN1544.jpg

I decided to paint up my boot guards from Sniper fab.

Here is what they looked like before paint. As well as what the knuckle that they go on looks like so people can get a feel as to where they go. .........(I know I still need to clean them up)
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells%20Painted/DSCN1541.jpg
Unpainted. I bought them welded. (not my $hit weld job)
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Sniper%20Fab%20guards/DSCN1533.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Sniper%20Fab%20guards/DSCN1534.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Sniper%20Fab%20guards/DSCN1535.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Sniper%20Fab%20guards/DSCN1536.jpg

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Sniper%20Fab%20guards/DSCN1538.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Sniper%20Fab%20guards/DSCN1539.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Sniper%20Fab%20guards/DSCN1548.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Sniper%20Fab%20guards/DSCN1549.jpg

great build keep the info flowing

I am pretty stacked lately. Family, dove season, poker, work

(in that order :D )

Give me a shout when all that $hit is in and we can go from there!

I AM PUMPED!!!!!
:grinpimp:I just landed a Vortec 8.1 out of an 03 Avalanche with a 4L80E mated to it with 56,000 miles on it:grinpimp:

For those that don't know the 8.1/8100 Vortec is a fuel injected 496 :p

:eek:It's big block time:eek:


I will soon post up my WELL BUILT Raptor 700R4 for sale

Did someone say monster truck in the making?:D


Trey

Did someone say monster truck in the making?:D


Trey

Monster $hit Box. ;)

I can't wait to get my hands dirty...

Good news from the wife: Yes Honey, you can play with your Jeep this fall.

$hit yeah!!!!!!!!!!:grinpimp:

OK.......I know this is a little off track but I just did a search for 454's in a Jeep on Google and this is what it pulled up.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1981-Jeep-CJ5-454-21-Lift-49-Tires_W0QQitemZ140259236938QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20Truc ksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item140259236938&_trkparms=39%3A1|65%3A10|240%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

:barf:This is what I want my rig to look like when I'm done:barf:
I'm always up for a good laugh and that one got it done.

dude shut up. I've been bidding.

OK.......I know this is a little off track but I just did a search for 454's in a Jeep on Google and this is what it pulled up.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1981-Jeep-CJ5-454-21-Lift-49-Tires_W0QQitemZ140259236938QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20Truc ksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item140259236938&_trkparms=39%3A1|65%3A10|240%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

:barf:This is what I want my rig to look like when I'm done:barf:
I'm always up for a good laugh and that one got it done.

Is that an airbrushed nut sack??

The semi just showed up with my wheels/IROKS. I have to say those are some HUGE Fawkers:eek::eek::eek:

And they are pretty light for such a big tire :laughing::laughing:

For those that don't know the 8.1/8100 Vortec is a fuel injected 454 :p



FYI the 8.1 is a 496. Nice jeep, can't wait to see it finished

And they are pretty light for such a big tire :laughing::laughing:

The are light. I was floored how light they are.

:grinpimp:Thanks for the hook-up:grinpimp:

Best part about that CJ, his 10 year old daughter as a "sexy" model.. WTF? I guess a douche bag that would build something like that would make his kid do something that perverted.

I need to quit reading this thread, I had a dream last night I was rebuilding some Rockwells that I scored to put in my build, that I was about to start. Talk about a shitty feeling when I woke up :mad3:

BTW, Rockwells & now a Injected big block?!?! I officially hate you & will punch you in the nuts & steal your rig if I ever see you in person. If you're lucky, I'll leave you my Jeep to "wheel".






Jerk. :grinpimp:

Best part about that CJ, his 10 year old daughter as a "sexy" model.. WTF? I guess a douche bag that would build something like that would make his kid do something that perverted.

I need to quit reading this thread, I had a dream last night I was rebuilding some Rockwells that I scored to put in my build, that I was about to start. Talk about a shitty feeling when I woke up :mad3:

BTW, Rockwells & now a Injected big block?!?! I officially hate you & will punch you in the nuts & steal your rig if I ever see you in person. If you're lucky, I'll leave you my Jeep to "wheel".
Jerk. :grinpimp:

I've got to give it to you man. I like reading your posts. :laughing:

Did I mention I like to fight. Try for a nut shot and I'll have you on your @ss.:flipoff2: Keep the laughs flowing.

Todd

OK.......I know this is a little off track but I just did a search for 454's in a Jeep on Google and this is what it pulled up.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1981-Jeep-CJ5-454-21-Lift-49-Tires_W0QQitemZ140259236938QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q20Truc ksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item140259236938&_trkparms=39%3A1|65%3A10|240%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245

:barf:This is what I want my rig to look like when I'm done:barf:
I'm always up for a good laugh and that one got it done.

I know that given the nature of most show trucks, it's not a surprise, but...
Chevy 1/2 Ton Axles
:laughing:

I got the guys where I found the motor to send me a few pics of it. I can't wait to get this hog between the rails.:smokin:

Vortec 8100
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/8100%20Vortec/CIMG6437.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/8100%20Vortec/CIMG6438.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/8100%20Vortec/CIMG6434.jpg

4L80E
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/4L80E/CIMG6440.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/4L80E/CIMG6442.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/4L80E/CIMG6441.jpg

I wouldn't think it would matter as they're top loaded no matter what. What will matter is how much room you have for headers/manifolds, oil pan, radiator, and everything else in there. Maybe mock up drivetrain minus Atlas and see what kinda rom you have and where it would be best utilized??????

Your gonna want drivers side, since the tranny oil pan on those 4L's is offset to the passenger. You can still use a passenger....but you have to use a fairly skinny driveshaft. If you go driver....you've got all the room you need for as big a shaft as you want.

Your gonna want drivers side, since the tranny oil pan on those 4L's is offset to the passenger. You can still use a passenger....but you have to use a fairly skinny driveshaft. If you go driver....you've got all the room you need for as big a shaft as you want.

with a stretch in the front you have to run a 2 piece shaft. So the pan orientation is a moot point. Regardless, drivers drop is the best situation for this build up. That will allow us to scoot the drive train over in the offset tunnel of the TJ and gain some clearance for a few other items.

if it were me i would mock it all up and then just measure it out. Atlas tcases are expensive id want to get it right the first time.

Oh yeah buddy, just found my project rig. Not quite as bad of shape as what you started with, so I'll probably be done with it in a week or so. Think my total cost will be around $9k.

Or you could just trade me right now with the way your rig sits. Heck, I may even allow you to throw in a set of H1s to convince me I'm not making a mistake.












:flipoff2:
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a313/muddspuffin/tj19.jpg

I've got to give it to you man. I like reading your posts. :laughing:

Did I mention I like to fight. Try for a nut shot and I'll have you on your @ss.:flipoff2: Keep the laughs flowing.

Todd


I doubt that. I'd be off laying IROK rubber via big block before you knew what happened. What's that over there? Superman?!?!


Me on left, you on right.:D

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a313/muddspuffin/64015_orig_1200288031566.gif

I will post up some much better pics but............I had my jeep on this POS old trailer. It worked great for what I needed it to do which was get the jeep out of my shop/barn. I decided lastnight I was going to get it off the jeep and on jackstands without my cherrypicker. Well.......Needless to say it didn't go so well:flipoff2:

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Oops/DSCN1553.jpg

it is already wheelin and it doesn't even have taars yet.


Post the ones with the tires next to it. :eek:

I'll post up some better pics of the jeeps first flop when I download my camera. But phone pics are all I can post up now. Keep in mind I'm waiting on my super 8 kits to show up so I can't mount up my wheels but I've been playing with the wheelbase.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Mock%20Up/DSCN1581.jpg

shit!

Looks good:smokin:

shit!

Looks good:smokin:

Thanks:D


I'll post up much better pics tomorrow. I had a buddy that is a great painter over tonight to talk about what paint I'll be going with. I'm going to go with a orange with a hint of copper. Then where the hood is raised It will have half a shade darker in the paint and I will flow that down to the rockers and comp conrners. It will be much like what you see on the old Boss Mustangs only those were with black.

I sold my Atlas II so I'll be geting the 4 speed ordered. I've ditched the idea of the 10.3-1 and I'm going to go with their 5-1 4-speed.

I'd like to go just one round with the d!ck that works for Poison Spyder that puts the F$%#ing UPS labels on the rockers. FYI to that d!ck. Put them on the inside:flipoff2: Never the less I got the grinded down and primed as well as the comp corners. Got all the armor in place.

Motor and Trans. Should be in tomorrow (I'm hopeing)

Just guessing I'm thinking my Wheel base is going to end up in the 129 - 132 range. I now have both axles (on jack stands) under the rig which helped me in laying it out. The pics that I will be posing up are much lower than my ride height I'll end up at but I'm going to have to come up with something dif. as far as my jack stands.

I'll post up some more pics in the AM. Better pics of my jeeps first roll over, in the shop.

Todd

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Oops/DSCN1554.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Oops/DSCN1556.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Oops/DSCN1555.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Oops/DSCN1557.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Oops/DSCN1558.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Oops/DSCN1559.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Oops/DSCN1560.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Oops/DSCN1561.jpg
This is all the body damage I got from the flop and it's going to be gone after the PSC corners go on
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Oops/DSCN1562.jpg

I spent a lot of time geting the armor ready for primer. We have had such a wet summer that everything gets rust right away. I haven't drilled the holes to mount the armor because it will all come off for the paint shop so it's held on by C-clamps for now.

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/PSC%20primed/DSCN1563.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/PSC%20primed/DSCN1564.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/PSC%20primed/DSCN1565.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/PSC%20primed/DSCN1566.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/PSC%20primed/DSCN1576.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/PSC%20primed/DSCN1580.jpg

My ride height is still to low in the pics but I'll be geting that changed.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Mock%20Up/DSCN1567.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Mock%20Up/DSCN1578.jpg
I was going to slug the front bumper with 2" pipe but I"m thinking I"m going to ditch the front bumper set up and make something like BTFs new front ends and then slug that.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Mock%20Up/DSCN1573.jpg

Looking good Todd!

Looking good Todd!

Thanks! If I could get some fricking parts to show up I could get started on my 4 link stuff.

Anyone have any great ideas how to get 1/4" tube inside of 1/4 tube? That's how I'm going to make my arms but I see a war in getting them inside.

Anyone have any great ideas how to get 1/4" tube inside of 1/4 tube?

http://thedoubleduke.com/pics/misc/BFH.jpg

Where is that hammer? I might need it

http://thedoubleduke.com/pics/misc/BFH.jpg

I was more looking for some to say ya.......I have a buddy that does that for all his friends. He will sell it to you by the foot already pressed:flipoff2:

:bounce2::bounce::bounce2::bounce:

My motor and trans showed up on Monday and my guys didn't tell me. I just walked out there and found it:D I can not wait to put the Bigblock 496 power to the ground:eek:
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Arival%20motor%20and%20trans/DSCN1583.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Arival%20motor%20and%20trans/DSCN1582.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Arival%20motor%20and%20trans/DSCN1584.jpg
And Trans.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Arival%20motor%20and%20trans/DSCN1585.jpg

Got my tube adapters in from Ballistic. I'll be going with square tube. I'm going to sleve 1/4" if anyone want to bring that hammer Andy posted up and help get that done:flipoff2:

This is some quality stuff.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Ballistic%20Inserts/DSCN1587.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Ballistic%20Inserts/DSCN1588.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Ballistic%20Inserts/DSCN1589.jpg
I'll throw them a bone. They only shipped 15 of the 16 square tube adapters, 8 LH and 7 RH. I called them up and the guy was all kinds of cool. Just for that heres a free plug.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Ballistic%20Inserts/DSCN1590.jpg

Lookin good still!! Love the stance!!

I don't post too much, but been on the board for a long long time, and this is one nice build! Thanks for all the photos............Drew

Lookin good still!! Love the stance!!

I'm diging it too. I'm thinking I might kick the rear a little further back. I have to roll the tires away every night because I don't want them to fall on someone (I've got little kids). It will be sweet once I get it linked and the hubs show up.
I don't post too much, but been on the board for a long long time, and this is one nice build! Thanks for all the photos............Drew

Drew. I'm not a post counter so no sweat there. As for the photos. I got tired of doing searches and the build threads were 8 pages long with pictures that were taken every 3 mo. and the pics look like they took them from the neighbors drive. I had a ton of questions that never got answered. I just had to keep searching. My goal was to make my thread to where someone could read it post by post and feel like they could go do the exact same thing without wondering how someone did something. My hats off to Andy for all of his know how. I've learned more in the past 6 mo. than I had in a life time. It's nice when there are people out there that know their stuff and they are able to help others without making them feel less worthy. He is a good teacher and a good friend. I'm doing my best to share that with everyone else.

Todd

answer your phone

I'm diging it too. I'm thinking I might kick the rear a little further back. I have to roll the tires away every night because I don't want them to fall on someone (I've got little kids). It will be sweet once I get it linked and the hubs show up.


Drew. I'm not a post counter so no sweat there. As for the photos. I got tired of doing searches and the build threads were 8 pages long with pictures that were taken every 3 mo. and the pics look like they took them from the neighbors drive. I had a ton of questions that never got answered. I just had to keep searching. My goal was to make my thread to where someone could read it post by post and feel like they could go do the exact same thing without wondering how someone did something. My hats off to Andy for all of his know how. I've learned more in the past 6 mo. than I had in a life time. It's nice when there are people out there that know their stuff and they are able to help others without making them feel less worthy. He is a good teacher and a good friend. I'm doing my best to share that with everyone else.

Todd

your such a pirate brown noser. NA just like giving you a hard time and its finally nice to see a build thread with detailed pictures even with asshats like me posting in them, jason.

Drew. I'm not a post counter so no sweat there. As for the photos. I got tired of doing searches and the build threads were 8 pages long with pictures that were taken every 3 mo. and the pics look like they took them from the neighbors drive. I had a ton of questions that never got answered. I just had to keep searching. My goal was to make my thread to where someone could read it post by post and feel like they could go do the exact same thing without wondering how someone did something. My hats off to Andy for all of his know how. I've learned more in the past 6 mo. than I had in a life time. It's nice when there are people out there that know their stuff and they are able to help others without making them feel less worthy. He is a good teacher and a good friend. I'm doing my best to share that with everyone else.

Todd

Hats off to you and thanks for sharing. You have definitely given me some ideas for my rig, Especially because it's in pieces now already. Keep the photos coming.......Drew

http://thedoubleduke.com/pics/misc/BFH.jpg

That guy is from the town I live in! My math teacher took that picture...

Small fucking world.

Great build btw.

Where is that hammer? I might need it

That guy is from the town I live in! My math teacher took that picture...

Small fucking world.

Great build btw.



There you go. :flipoff2:

Looks good. My old buggy had an almost identical stance .. 126" w/b, and 49 iroks

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c254/fl-krawler/buggy%20pics/100_1699.jpg

Looks good. My old buggy had an almost identical stance .. 126" w/b, and 49 iroks

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c254/fl-krawler/buggy%20pics/100_1699.jpg

Thanks for the pic. Nice rig! Would you mind telling me what made you go drivers drop on the front? I'm doing the same but would like to know what made you go that route.

I've had a slow down period here lately since my 8x6.5 conversion got kicked another 2 weeks. I'm hopeing he will be able to ship any day. I picked up a blast cabinet and a parts washer cabinet. So I'm starting to clean up some parts with my idle time. I had wire wheeled and painted the knuckles and they looked fine to the average eye but bothered me that there were places I couldn't get to with my wire wheel. So I'm leting them soak right now and will media blast them once they are out.

Does anyone know someone with a bender they want to sell on the cheap? I want a nice one. I'm not into the manual deal if I don't have to. I have a lot of tube to get bending on. Cage, front, slight exo around the hood etc. Help a brother out!!!!!

Case of beer finders fee for someone that can find me a killer deal:D

Thanks for the pic. Nice rig! Would you mind telling me what made you go drivers drop on the front? I'm doing the same but would like to know what made you go that route.




I went with a drivers drop, b/c my engine sat back in the firewall about 5" due to its low slung height, and clearance issues with the rockwell 3rd member. Since it sat so far back in, going with a drivers drop, allowed me to do the fairly common 1.5" to the passenger side engine placement that most 4x4's with a drivers drop see.. This gave me that much more room for the throttle pedal, which made things alot more comfortable

Does anyone know someone with a bender they want to sell on the cheap? I want a nice one. I'm not into the manual deal if I don't have to. I have a lot of tube to get bending on. Cage, front, slight exo around the hood etc. Help a brother out!!!!!

Case of beer finders fee for someone that can find me a killer deal:D

TUBING BENDER, ELECTRIC /HYDRAULIC PICS AVAIL - $985 (SALINAS):

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/tls/839781566.html

12 ton Hydraulic Tubing Bender - $75 (Mundelein):

http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/tls/832467858.html


:mr-t:................Drew

What state is "salinas?"

Salinas, California (http://maps.google.com/maps?client=safari&rls=en&q=salinas,+ca&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&resnum=1&ct=title)

Your never going to believe it. For those that have been following my build. It just took another twist:flipoff2: Anyone want to buy a set of rockwells? I'm going to be selling my 2 front rockwells. BECAUSE. I've waited 2 mo. for my super 8 kits from Ouverson. Good guys no doubt but I couldn't wait another mo. I found a great guy here on pirate Hal. He had exactly what I was going to go with for sale. So I picked up 2 front rockwells. The rear is already set up for the middle like I was after. I'll have to flip the front to a drivers side (if I decide to go that route). It has highsteer arms. 2- rams. Ouverson's 47 spline 2" shaft for the rear with their locker.
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Rockwells/IMG_1791.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Rockwells/IMG_1799.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Rockwells/IMG_1802.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Rockwells/IMG_1807.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/New%20Rockwells/IMG_1810.jpg

I also picked up 4- 16" King Coilovers. Thanks Hal. I'll send you pics of your stuff geting beat on:D
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Fox%20Coilovers/IMG_1819.jpg
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Fox%20Coilovers/IMG_1818.jpg

as always looking good. what size stroke on those CYL's 8 or 10''. just trying to get an idea if the rams i have will work or not. do i see a set of stock shafts in that picture:D wonder if there for sale, jason.

as always looking good. what size stroke on those CYL's 8 or 10''. just trying to get an idea if the rams i have will work or not. do i see a set of stock shafts in that picture:D wonder if there for sale, jason.


3" shaft 9" stroke on the rams. BIG BOYS :D What will you give for the shafts? I'll sell one because I have the 2" 47 spline in that axle. I'll keep one for aback up but will be geting the cromoly shafts for the front. Let me know what you want to pay

how much for the rockwells?

maybe someone should take the internets away from you? Maybe just take away you Pirate privlages for a few days?

how much for the rockwells?

1500 plus the ride. They are purdy now!!! That's what I gave for them only they were not painted up and I have hrs. in geting them that way. Fire me your zip if you want them and I'll quote the freight for ya.
Before
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells/DSCN1421.jpg
After
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/Rockwells%20Painted/DSCN1552.jpg

maybe someone should take the internets away from you? Maybe just take away you Pirate privlages for a few days?

:flipoff2: I'd be lost without pirate.

1500 plus the ride. They are purdy now!!! That's what i gave for them only they were not painted up and i have hrs. In geting them that way. Fire me your zip if you want them and i'll quote the freight for ya.
Before
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/rockwells/dscn1421.jpg
after
http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t213/406yj/rockwells%20painted/dscn1552.jpg



:flipoff2: I'd be lost without pirate.

60423 ;)

That's cheap!!! 250 for 1300 #'s by way of Saia.

Buy some H1's with it and you won't pay shipping=)


I have 8 8 Bolts here , and 1 8 Bolt wheel . All with tires . Selling them . Also have 5 12 bolts For my Truck ...

i'll see if i can sweet talk the wife into these. i'm in ark city,kansas about an hour from you. know anyone who needs a 60 & 14 bolt combo. also if i buy these i'll have a set of 5-16.5x14 weld super singles for sale. i'll get with you as soon as i discuss this with the wife(yes,i wear the pants in my family,but she tells me which ones i can wear). thanks, cheepjeep90

I scored a Hydro bender with some 20' sticks of DOM. I can't wait to get started on my cage!! Thanks for the hook up Andy!!

If anyone can tell me the name and address of the @ss that decided Jeeps needed Torx bolts like like to track him down and stomp the piss out of him. Tonight I managed to get the stock cage pulled as well as all the seats. If it were not for the Plasma and cut off wheels I have no clue how I would have gotten it done. I donated it all to my neighbor just so I could score some help. Now that I have the axles with the 8x6.5's heading this way I'll be able to get rolling on my 4 link front and rear soon. I've gotten a 2nd wind now that I know I have all the parts and I have a bender to get started on the cage. If anyone has any pics of pimp cages I'd like to score some ideas.:)