: Looking for a Remington 870P


Jason R
05-09-2008, 01:02 PM
Anyone know where I can get a standard Remington 870p? They seem to be hard to find or priced too high. I'm looking for standard or bead sights. Which are better, rifle or bead?

bronko
05-09-2008, 01:17 PM
Neither...Ghost Rings.

Jason R
05-09-2008, 01:23 PM
I don't want Ghost rings on it. I'm going to buy a couple of them for projects and one for defense use...and may get a longer vent-rib barrel for it for giving to friends when we're shooting clays. Plus I have ghost rings on my benelli :D

Doc Holiday13
05-09-2008, 01:46 PM
check the arfcom equipment exchange. I haven't looked at the rifles and shotguns section in the last few weeks but like two or three people had one on there

aloharover
05-09-2008, 02:42 PM
fawk arfcom EE. Bunch of pussy assed mother fawkers

Pt_Ranger_V8
05-09-2008, 02:46 PM
??? I paid ~$400 for mine composite on parkerized, 3.5" chamber, 28" barrel.

what's hard to find?

bronko
05-09-2008, 03:02 PM
fawk arfcom EE. Bunch of pussy assed mother fawkers

Fawk arfcom is true...but the EE still has some of the best shopping of anywhere on the internet.

Jason R
05-09-2008, 03:13 PM
??? I paid ~$400 for mine composite on parkerized, 3.5" chamber, 28" barrel.

what's hard to find?

Is it a police model? Probably not...

I've been browsing the AR15 Equipment Exchange...haven't noticed anything recently.

TheRedHorseman
05-09-2008, 03:23 PM
Doesn't HK sell a far more expensive and amazingly superior shotgun?

Jason R
05-09-2008, 03:29 PM
Doesn't HK sell a far more expensive and amazingly superior shotgun?

I already have a Benelli :flipoff2:

soilantgreen
05-09-2008, 06:28 PM
Joo loookin' for one of dese, mang?

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/soilantgreen/RemColtWin/DSCN2034.jpg
Crap, I scratched the wall with it!
http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h109/soilantgreen/RemColtWin/DSCN2033.jpg

Keith Strong
05-09-2008, 08:00 PM
There is one up here at a shop for $385. In Newcastle.

Jason R
05-10-2008, 09:57 PM
Keith,

You sure it's a P model? I might have to drive up there just to freakin buy it. But then there's the 10 day bullshit. I should just go out of state to buy it...goddammit.

Keith Strong
05-11-2008, 05:42 AM
I am not positive, but it is an 870 for sure, and has probably a > 24 inch barrel.

CJF
05-11-2008, 10:35 AM
Noob question:

What does the "P" signify?

TheRedHorseman
05-11-2008, 10:38 AM
Police.

They 870 P is built to higher standards than the run of the mill 870.

Jason R
05-11-2008, 01:46 PM
I am not positive, but it is an 870 for sure, and has probably a > 24 inch barrel.

It'll say "870 Police Magnum" on the receiver...

TheRedHorseman
05-11-2008, 02:07 PM
It'll say "870 Police Magnum" on the receiver...

And it's so tactical that your balls will start aching the moment you step into the room with it.

Jason R
05-11-2008, 04:47 PM
And it's so tactical that your balls will start aching the moment you step into the room with it.

No, you're talking about the :rainbow: 870p max. :flipoff2:

JESSE_at_TLT
05-11-2008, 08:20 PM
Why not just buy a Wingmaster and get a shorter barrel and magazine extension?

Jason R
05-11-2008, 10:12 PM
Why not just buy a Wingmaster and get a shorter barrel and magazine extension?

Because i want a "P" model...aluminum trigger housing (versus plastic) among some other differences such as a smoother action and no dimples on the mag tube. There are some other subtle differences as well. They're not much more expensive than a standard 870 when you can find them.

JESSE_at_TLT
05-11-2008, 10:28 PM
I thought the Wingmaster's had aluminum trigger housings and all the same parts as the P models. I saw a comparison somewhere online that said the P models are just hand-fitted to tighter tolerences.

Jason R
05-11-2008, 10:36 PM
If you're talking about the OLD wingmasters they are the OLD police 870s. I don't like the finish on them and I haven't seen too many for sale anyways.

Here are the differences between a standard 870 and 870p:

From the Vang Comp web site:

What is the difference between a Remington Express and a Police Magnum?"

The Remington Police Magnum shotgun is built heavier to withstand the
abuse and pounding that police departments inflict on their gear. It has a
metal trigger assembly versus the Express's plastic assembly. The Police
Magnum also has heavier springs (7 lb. sear disconnect spring versus's the
Express's 5 lb. disconnect spring). The Police Magnum has a 22 inch
magazine spring versus a 16 inch magazine spring in the Express.
The Police gun comes with a heavier lifter spring. Each Police Magnum
comes with front and rear sling swivel studs. These are just some of the
differences in the two guns. Remember, you get exactly what you pay for.
Both models function the same and digest the same ammo, so if you are
inclined to inflict this type of punishment on your guns then consider a
Police Magnum. Otherwise the Express model will serve you very well.

From the Remington web site:

What are the differences between the M-870 Police and the M-870 Express HD?
Question
Can you tell me the main differences between the 870 Express and the 870
Police Model (assume that the 870P is one with a synthetic stock and front
bead sight). Are the 870Express and 870P receivers different at all, that
is, other than the differences of inscription ("870 Police Magnum" or "870
Express Magnum")?
Answer
Structurally the two receivers are identical. The only difference will be that the Police model will have a more durable finish. The magazine tubes will be slightly different. The Model 870 Express will have two indents in the magazine tube to accommodate the new style plastic magazine spring retainer. However, this prevents the Express model from accepting a magazine tube extension without alteration to the tube.

Other differences will be that the Police model includes sling swivel studs, a shorter fore-end, heavier shell latches, a heavier sear spring and a heavier magazine spring.

From the Remington LE web site:

Q: What is the difference between the metal finish on the sporting goods guns and police guns?

A: A standard "blue" finish is offered in both lines, however, the "matte" finish on the sporting goods guns is a bead blast bluing. The "matte" finish on the police guns is a parkerization process. Parkerization is 60% more durable than bead blast bluing.

JESSE_at_TLT
05-11-2008, 11:15 PM
Those comparisons seem to be between the Express and the P models, but don't say anything about the Wingmasters. I'm pretty sure that those have all the nice parts in the P models, at more reasonable prices. You'd have to buy a shorter barrel, mag extension tube and plastic grips if you don't like the wood, but they're available everywhere.

soilantgreen
05-14-2008, 08:19 PM
Mine's a Wingmaster.

mark_w
05-14-2008, 09:07 PM
Aren't wingmasters built with blue finish and nicer wood than express models? Can you shoot 3 inch in a wingmaster?

rusty_scout
05-15-2008, 10:40 PM
My 870P has a Parkerized finish,and rifle sights.
It also came with a Speed Feed stock,it does say 870 Police Magnum on it.
After going through a StressFire course with it i can say it worked flawlessly.