: Legally driving buggies on the street?
skipped_Link 05-11-2008, 08:03 PM I would like to know what you guys are doing to legally drive you buggies on the street,
All of my other rigs have been street legal, lights, wind shield, ect. with the exception of my 49, it was old enough it did not have to have turn signals, or seat belts,
Now that my buggy is mostly complete, I would like to be able to travel on roadways if needed, (from one trail to another), with out having to worry about getting a big ticket,
I was thinking of using a slow moving vehicle sighn, (tell them it's my tractor :D ) but I do not know what is required before I can use this method,
As it is I cannot even drive to the local store to get a soda without the dick head up the street calling the cops, most of the time they are cool & just say stay off the street, but it only takes one ass hole cop to make a bad day for anyone,
Plus if I could be leagal in some way, (even if only barely) the guy would be waisting his time calling the 5-0.
By solving the above problem would also help out with jumping from trail to trail without worrying about running into a NHP out on a lonely stretch of road, highway 95, north of winnemucca for example,
It's not that I want to cruise down the freeway, but using county maintained roads, & smaller highways, might come in handy,
Not to mention I want to be able to run to the store & get a soda, there's only about 150 people in this town, why does one of them have to use the law to make everyone else miserable,
I would get it inspected , licensed, & insured, but I'm sure they will want to title it as an 08, & require turn signals & such,
So does anyone know how to legally use a slow moving vehicle sighn,
Or maybe some other options,
MightyRAM_97 05-12-2008, 01:08 AM I would like to know what you guys are doing to legally drive you buggies on the street,
All of my other rigs have been street legal, lights, wind shield, ect. with the exception of my 49, it was old enough it did not have to have turn signals, or seat belts,
Now that my buggy is mostly complete, I would like to be able to travel on roadways if needed, (from one trail to another), with out having to worry about getting a big ticket,
I was thinking of using a slow moving vehicle sighn, (tell them it's my tractor :D ) but I do not know what is required before I can use this method,
As it is I cannot even drive to the local store to get a soda without the dick head up the street calling the cops, most of the time they are cool & just say stay off the street, but it only takes one ass hole cop to make a bad day for anyone,
Plus if I could be leagal in some way, (even if only barely) the guy would be waisting his time calling the 5-0.
By solving the above problem would also help out with jumping from trail to trail without worrying about running into a NHP out on a lonely stretch of road, highway 95, north of winnemucca for example,
It's not that I want to cruise down the freeway, but using county maintained roads, & smaller highways, might come in handy,
Not to mention I want to be able to run to the store & get a soda, there's only about 150 people in this town, why does one of them have to use the law to make everyone else miserable,
I would get it inspected , licensed, & insured, but I'm sure they will want to title it as an 08, & require turn signals & such,
So does anyone know how to legally use a slow moving vehicle sighn,
Or maybe some other options,
I have been following your build and it's one awesome build up, the quality of work is bar none, The best I can say is look up the NRS statutes and try to make it comply, either that or it's unfortunately a trailer queen :( You live out in Winnemucca right ?? so maybe the DMV inspector will cut some slack here and there ?? and unsure of the State Poopers, it comes down to a "Personal Decision" in other words " Officer's Descretion"....I think the basic requirements are winshield and wipers, turn signals, and working lights f/r. and working horn...and mirrors...I think full hydro is illegal but could also fall under the "gray area" kind of like running bead locks... and heims...
skipped_Link 05-13-2008, 01:25 PM Reading through some of the NRS stuff I found a few interesting things, nothing helping me drive to the store, but unpaved county maintained roads are fair game, & that is the important part,
rawracing 06-03-2008, 08:42 PM I too have questions regarding streetable travel, I don't have a buggy but will soon have a TJ modified with 39" tires and full hydraulic steering.
This Jeep originally came from Idaho so a Nevada inspection will be necessary in order to license it, my questions is does anyone know if there is a tire size limit in Elko Nevada? Also is full hyd-steering acceptable?
Thankzzzzz
RW.
I too have questions regarding streetable travel, I don't have a buggy but will soon have a TJ modified with 39" tires and full hydraulic steering.
This Jeep originally came from Idaho so a Nevada inspection will be necessary in order to license it, my questions is does anyone know if there is a tire size limit in Elko Nevada? Also is full hyd-steering acceptable?
Thankzzzzz
RW.
Full hydro is illegal as well as beadlocks.Don't point that stuff out to the inspector and maybe it will fly.I just moved to Tahoe City California from Reno Nevada.I drove my Jeep everyday in Nevada and never got hassled . I drove it in Tahoe once and got a two page ticket full of ridiculous violations
-Lisa
Jason M 06-04-2008, 01:30 PM Full hydro is illegal as well as beadlocks.
Where is this stated in the rule books?
Where is this stated in the rule books?
I was told by a close freind and fellow wheeler who is a Washoe County Sheriff.I will try to find the specific code number for you.As for Beadlocks it should say right on the wheel itself non DOT.Heims on steering are also illegal....the list goes on.
The reason Hydro steering is illegal(In Washoe County) is because it has no return to center and no mechanical linkage therefore if you lose a line you lose your steering.
H2ORodeo 06-04-2008, 06:22 PM Non DOT and illegal are 2 different things as it was explained to me. The DOT does not approve them for street use, but that doesn't make it illegal to use them. The full hydro ( illegal or not) is just a bad idea on the road for the above mentioned reasons. "Most" cops will overlook beadlocks in Nevada. CA. fuzz has ticketed me for the 37's on my street truck! ( said I needed mudflaps:flipoff2:) They're pretty militant about that stuff. I wish I could shed some credible light on the buggy issue, but I've been told by a few folks that with lights, mudflaps, etc. You "should" be alright in NV. But again, I don't know that for gospel.
rawracing 06-04-2008, 08:19 PM Thanks for the response. Hopefully the inspector will not notice the hydro-steering and if he does maybe I can convince him it's just to assist the regular steering??? ( probably not but it's worth a try ).
I plan on installing beadlocks after the inspection as well as a few other things that may not be DOT approved.
How about a fuel cell behind the front seats??? Anyone know DOT rules governing that?
RW.
drsmash 06-06-2008, 10:56 AM You can license a dune buggy you can license your buggy. Lights are a big issue,markers at the corners and headlights the right hieght, turnsignals and license plate light. Plates front and rear. As for tire coverage the inspector might dictate that, The law states that you have to have the same vehicle dimensions as when it was manufactured ;ie tire coverage. I have went rounds with NHP over my truck and won. But I have everything they are looking for including a good attitude towards public safety, in fact I promote it with my customers to try to adhere to statutes allready in place so new ones don't start setting precedent in court. I run a polycarbonate windshield and talked to several NHP and even the NHP omsbudsman and he said that if its safe for motorcycles its safe for my truck. Believe me I will call that guy to court as a defense witness:D Eric
PS How about tuff truck wednesday night at octanefest? Its all 4wheel and no big jumps love to see you rig there.
CJBoxer 06-09-2008, 03:46 PM As what others have said, ie basic safety items but where they might get you is frame height at 30" with a GVWR of between 4500 and 7500 NRS 484.7385
24hoursofNevada 01-03-2009, 02:12 AM Non DOT and illegal are 2 different things as it was explained to me. The DOT does not approve them for street use, but that doesn't make it illegal to use them. The full hydro ( illegal or not) is just a bad idea on the road for the above mentioned reasons. "Most" cops will overlook beadlocks in Nevada. CA. fuzz has ticketed me for the 37's on my street truck! ( said I needed mudflaps:flipoff2:) They're pretty militant about that stuff. I wish I could shed some credible light on the buggy issue, but I've been told by a few folks that with lights, mudflaps, etc. You "should" be alright in NV. But again, I don't know that for gospel.
Beadlocks fall under "Flanged" wheels. With the exception of Hutchinson wheels, they are illegal in NV. Full Hydro as stated above is also illegal, with no return to center or mechanical linkage it's considered an unsafe vehicle.
With that being said, I ran beadlocks for five years and never got pulled over.
dopeassjackson 01-04-2009, 04:55 PM i dont live in that part of the country but i do know that you shouldnt register it as an 08. find your self a "rusty cowl" the older the better, for the reasons you stated in first post. it also sounds like you need to make friends with an inspector.
skipped_Link 01-10-2009, 08:11 AM I have not looked into this any further, mostly becuase I can sneek around pretty good in the small town I live in, if I have to go any where other than that I just hop in on the trailer & go,
dopeassjackson 01-11-2009, 04:55 PM it is insured correct? i speak from expierance, if its not insured dont drive it on the street for your own good. all it takes is one fool and even if its not your falt as soon as they find out your not insured it becomes your falt.
the rusty cowel thing is basicly just paper work and an inspection.
chris demartini 01-11-2009, 09:59 PM The "rusty cowl" thing doesn't work either. I had insurance on my rig just so I could put plates on it and store it at my parent's place or my apartment, I never drove it on the road. I got dropped from my insurance company last year when I slid on the ice Raucsh Creek and hit some kids brand new Rubicon. I tried working out something with his father but he was sue-happy. He found my insurance company and told them what happened, when they sent out an adjuster to look at the vehicle. The only part of my Jeep that actually was a Jeep was in fact the rusty cowl. They dropped me and I had to get new insurance for a little more money because I now had an accident on my record even though I was not at fault. Thank god RC has a waiver otherwise it would have costed me a lot more than it did.
I am in NJ which is run by lawyers and insurance companies, maybe NV is different.
skipped_Link 01-12-2009, 04:39 PM I thought about riviting the vin tag from the 49 on the dash & say I was still workign on the body, but to me that seems a little "chop shop" ish, & at the risk of ficticiouse plates I'll find another solution.
on edit, no insurance card in the vehicle here is $700+,
offroadjunkie 01-17-2009, 01:01 PM this is why if i ever build i buggy i will start with a old jeep tub! and leave some of the body and vin numbers... as long as the body is old enough not to need smog your good to go. Got to make sure you have working lights and stuff but still its easier. Good luck getting it to pass.
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