So for some time now i have collected my parts to fullwidth my cruiser and have never got around to it. recently i had a itch to start it and some pressure from friends.

i will do my best to post pics, answer questions, and give info and specs. this is my first rig and iv been been building it since i was 16. Iv only had it for 3 years so yes u can say im young.


alright so in this project my intentions are to run a dana 44 front end and a 14 bolt rear end.

i will be changing my transmission and t- case as well. i will be running an nv 4500 mated to a dana 300 with a twin stick conversion. i will install gears in the t-case later down the road.

so the first step was to disassemble the front end. i really hate drills and grinders:shaking:



so here is the start to the front end. it sat like this for a few weeks after i broke steering studs. then i decided to take it out.http://a66.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/83/l_5952e7aa265d2183e1435aec619aa541.jpg



then i got to work!
http://a209.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/121/l_262a3c4d86c676351281fb60d183baa0.jpg

after i got the frame clean and ready for the outboard i built my front hanger
http://a206.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/11/l_e95a6cd217cbbb58ddae331f5669641d.jpg
http://a705.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/31/l_6ef139920e2ede7227ca65558ad981d0.jpg


after i finished the hanger i got right down to bussiness to mounting it
http://a418.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/120/l_54344bab52e92b3ac1ad0349252d3b71.jpg

im really happy the way it looks.
http://a359.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/26/l_9068dc97debf0c588082d3c6897ca7c6.jpg

so i got the springs mounted and the front axle under it but wasnt sure how i was gonna do the shackle hangers in this pic
http://a272.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/126/l_5e03f8d83b2b450e9ecb17fdfd4c7bef.jpg

after it was able to roll again i got it in the garage and built the shackle hangers an painted my work.
http://a397.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/47/l_55bf51cbfc140a863abd9bf191f5882c.jpg
http://a795.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/28/l_510d0062a724fe2b4b4fbfab7cbd45ea.jpg


thats all i got for today.

i was super happy with the front end, i think it looks really clean
http://a893.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/51/l_748496e0d19affd8482207890610e2a4.jpg
http://a159.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/75/l_1a21a70a0802e6124e28c4a201b9a336.jpg

after i got everything down with the front suspension it was time to get the rear axle in.
so here is the old axle comming out
http://a671.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/74/l_335d9c402b10b1c95ee673bc7e38f4a6.jpg
http://a774.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/88/l_2bdef24a543a43f429ca5e1d088f95fd.jpg

in primed the rear after i pulled the 40 out
http://a425.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/12/l_7aa2c4ddf0eea4e90ee281aca8d1ba38.jpg

i went ahead and threw it in and tacked the pads on
http://a91.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/104/l_2900a350a7b2537a0a073fff7401b27a.jpg

just seein what its gonna look like!:smokin:
http://a926.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/124/l_9f8c63a5940df336990a990b6a37a145.jpg:smokin:

will post 2mrw but right now its dinner time.so im off:D

How wide is that thing? Looks nice

Eric

the front measures 87in from outside to outside of tire. the rear is narrower offcourse. i will have more pics 2mrw

:confused:
Wondering why you downgraded the front axle? Plans for a 60 soon? Looks kinda :laughing: fenderless w/ that width & those 35's. Any plans to go up in tire size? What's in the pumpkins - open or locked? Nice tranny choice :grinpimp:

I would guess the D44 works well because of the matching bolt patterns and width. He can throw some $$ at it and make it plenty strong, just like a Toyota axle.

You do very nice fab work..the front is super clean. :beer:

:confused:
Wondering why you downgraded the front axle? Plans for a 60 soon? Looks kinda :laughing: fenderless w/ that width & those 35's. Any plans to go up in tire size? What's in the pumpkins - open or locked? Nice tranny choice :grinpimp:

well i bought the 14bolt and 44 in a package deal. im going to find a good deal on a 60 and build it while i have this. i dont have that kind of money to buy certain things right when i need them.i usually look for the deal! the tsl's are 38.5 on rockstomper bead locks. i bought the tires used and grooved them with my neighbors fork lift tire groover. the 60 will bolt right in and i will do high steer and hydro assist:D

the axles have 4:10s with detroits. i will be buying 39.5 iroks at he end of the summer but for now my 38.5 have half tread. i decided to go with the low-max 4to1 for my t-case,plus a twin stick, and a clocking ring.

here is a pic of the bead locks. they are rockstomper and were put together by WFO in auburn

http://a902.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/114/l_7d70df2b2014f9695f8a85c72927f265.jpg

did i mention i shaved the rear housing three inches:smokin:

http://a144.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/1/l_3e4fa97778aa2441a133bfa411e65877.jpg



so i went with the great lakes disk conversion. picked up the rotors and calipers at "autozone":D
http://a800.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/52/l_c6cf51fd6a13481a9feefafab9febe47.jpg

gettin there:p
http://a387.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/116/l_f062d4ed5f423e4b4f1071928dcaff1a.jpg

done with the brakes. i will have to pick up some dually studs cause the spline aint long enough. but for now i wanted it on all fours
http://a831.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/80/l_9f63f6499b30401e6288999eef18647e.jpg

that night i pulled the rear end out to weld up the perches
http://a823.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/114/l_5b612faa5ec07783addf98a10a02a65e.jpg

so after i got it all welded up and painted i forgot about my trac-bar mounts and had to pull iut back out and get the brackets on :shaking:
http://a383.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/126/l_a391d449b1e8babe1a1405ad15e99dde.jpg
http://a862.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/8/l_ee8c1cc058d10efb1807b7c7f8407485.jpg

did i mention i shaved the rear housing three inches:smokin:

http://a144.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/1/l_3e4fa97778aa2441a133bfa411e65877.jpg



so i went with the great lakes disk conversion. picked up the rotors and calipers at "autozone":D
http://a800.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/52/l_c6cf51fd6a13481a9feefafab9febe47.jpg

gettin there:p
http://a387.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/116/l_f062d4ed5f423e4b4f1071928dcaff1a.jpg

done with the brakes. i will have to pick up some dually studs cause the spline aint long enough. but for now i wanted it on all fours
http://a831.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/80/l_9f63f6499b30401e6288999eef18647e.jpg


have you shaved the ring gear?

my dad took it to his work but he only took a 1/8 of an inch of even though i showed him how much has to come off. i took it to the machine shop and its still there:mad3: the carrier is in. there is about a quarter inch between the carrier ring and bottom of the housing. so a little massage with the grinder and the ring gear shaved it will be back in:)

Good lookin built :smokin:

mind if i ask.
how far did you move the rear spring perches in each?
i moved mine 2 1/4 inches in each, havnt tried bolting it up yet.

the rear is moved back 4 inches. the springs measure 53inches long and 3inches wide. i built new perches and put them in the same location as the stock ones. they are an offset pin so im running the short side in the back for wheel base and so they dont hang to far past the rear bumper. here is a pic of length and how far back the pin sits.
http://a361.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/84/l_5167f3d8c332fc1cea79b792dde466e8.jpg

tonight i orderd shock hoops from trail-gear and shock tabs from ruff stuff specialties. i cant wait to start welding little stuff on and making it look sexy:D i bought a bellhousing a few days ago but it hasnt shown up.

i thought i would post a pic of the tranny and tell what has been done to it.
nv4500 that was dirt cheap and overhauled. the tranny is a 2wd chevy tranny which has a granny gear at 6.5:1. the 4wd version is only 5:1.
so then i changed the output shaft to a dodge and ordered a tale housing from quad 4x4. i ordered an aluminum but they sent me a cast irion one. the only problem is the inner mating surface has to be milled out an 1/8 of an inch for the t-case to mount flush. here is a pic of the tranny with the new tale housing.
http://a256.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/19/l_5d2868e550736e8cf586168d8124e18f.jpg
http://a669.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/20/l_15c00a10061bb6f7598abe709b98f17c.jpg


the old drive train is out and im ready for the new stuff
http://a940.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/36/l_4406ec843885199db1edae6ef4bfd5ab.jpg

for moving spring perches, i meant the perches on the axle.
dont you have to move them towards the pumpkin a few inches?
i was just wondering how far in you moved them

for moving spring perches, i meant the perches on the axle.
dont you have to move them towards the pumpkin a few inches?
i was just wondering how far in you moved them

they are at the stock landcruiser spring width. im not sure what that is off the top of my head. i couldnt say how much they have been moved in since i didnt measure the location of the ones that i originally torched off. when u said spring perches i didnt know u meant "how far i in boarded my spring pads":D i didnt get ya sorry bud

this is something i usually wouldnt post but my little sister got it for me and i thought it went good with my truck:laughing: alot of my friends relate to the sticker saying it will be finished being built when pigs fly! they mean never:D unless i make it out to surf and terf:homer:
http://a540.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/108/l_6d1160778cd984eefdff927b71724343.jpg

what are you doing for a rear diff cover?? there's not alot to seal against, or any bolt holes. other than that its a great build. will you make it to rubthion?

Surf and turf huh? Maybe this year I can drive down there and make it back without cracking my tranny.

This full width swap looks really awesome man. I like the front hangars and such. I can't wait to see what this thing looks like done. You gonna be at rubithon?

i would really feel spoiled to get to go. i hope i will be finished and ready:)
thanks for the props ben:smokin:

what are you doing for a rear diff cover?? there's not alot to seal against, or any bolt holes. other than that its a great build. will you make it to rubthion?
i trimmed the cover and beefed it up a little. this pic wa before i filled in the old bolt holes. im going to drill and tap the bottom of the housing and run two bolts on the bottom of the cover. im not to fond of my welds with this
http://a290.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/11/l_bfe985a59bf1f5def0739c536f2d1341.jpg

what are you doing for a rear diff cover?? there's not alot to seal against, or any bolt holes. other than that its a great build. will you make it to rubthion?

the bottom of the housing is 1/2 inch plate? its identical to the shave in the 14 bolt thread

Over the years I have become less enamored with shaved differential housings. In my experience two things are likely to happen: 1) you will fall or roll off a ledge or big rock and land squarely on the diff ( I think it is a Murphy's Law thing) breaking or denting the thin wall of the shaved bottom; or 2) if you wheel hard for several years the bottom of the diff will be worn away from dragging it over rocks. In the past two years I have spend FAR more time and effort building up the bottom of the diff than I originally spend shaving it off:(

Also, I may have missed it at the beginning, but I am curious about why you want to be full width.

Over the years I have become less enamored with shaved differential housings.


Me too, but that's because the housing generally ends up with a small lip on the underside and it is difficult to keep a good seal with the diff cover - my garage floor has quite an oil stain from that issue :mad3:

Over the years I have become less enamored with shaved differential housings. In my experience two things are likely to happen: 1) you will fall or roll off a ledge or big rock and land squarely on the diff ( I think it is a Murphy's Law thing) breaking or denting the thin wall of the shaved bottom; or 2) if you wheel hard for several years the bottom of the diff will be worn away from dragging it over rocks. In the past two years I have spend FAR more time and effort building up the bottom of the diff than I originally spend shaving it off:(

Also, I may have missed it at the beginning, but I am curious about why you want to be full width.

to keep away from my body,to gain more stability, it looked like shit with the yota axles:shaking: sure i could have got a cut down front and a dually rear but i love the width:smokin:

:(nothing new. didnt work on it this weekend. still waiting for parts and my bell housing. holidays suck:flipoff2:

Looks good! Why not flip your front hanger around and gain some approach? It looks like you could add 1-2" of extra WB. If you're trying to keep it low, every little bit helps, with bigger tires. Your axle is now going to move back as the suspension compresses. Also from what I've seen, I wouldn't trust the weld on top of the 14b cast pumpkin.

ya i know. i use nickel rod for housing welds and i get it for free

these came in the mail today. 14in shock hoops.
http://a688.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/55/l_6af34b65bc812abdd46bae0f73b88e3f.jpg

before i mount them i have to drill out the rivets on the stock shock towers.so in the mean time today i mounted my shock mountes on the axles and some walmart lights on my knucles for rock lights.
http://a620.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/53/m_d4c2923e6dd5b1ae94d9a9a5358d0b93.jpg
http://a917.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/41/m_d70a2495b08bdd6117e635990bd37ad4.jpg
http://a633.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/90/l_9f26f087b07413551ad019cb2aac4b50.jpg

i got the rear axle back in a few days ago and here is how it looks
http://a569.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/93/l_409434cdf93f0e9c584d5b5e161df120.jpg

i think my front axle is plenty far forward for me.i went far as i could without having to move my steering box.
http://a407.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/72/l_44ce762e5588b1470afb3114d26c13de.jpg

i got an ok amount of stuff done today. i mounted my shock hoops. wasnt sure if i was going to mount my shocks straight up and down or angled back so i settled for in between. i havent got the original towers off yet cause i cant get to the 2 rivits on top of the frame with a drill so i gonna burn them off later with my friends torch.

http://a963.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/127/l_ee9ba681b508e2d0787534e35009e702.jpg
http://a342.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/62/l_560edec4fbadaf4c3e4ed347fa25ebbd.jpg
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well today i was able to get alot accomplished.i mounted some D-rings in the morning.welded the other shock hoop on,cut my exhaust and re did my y collector."reason for the exhaust mod was i hit the new tranny":shaking:
got the new bellhousing on"lots of lock tite":p got the tranny in, and even recieved a few packages :bounce2: my rear shock mounts for the axle came in and my heavy duty dana 300 rear yoke came in:grinpimp:

front bumper D-rings. i added some flat bar straps on the top of the weld seem for extra strength
http://a522.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/22/l_e987527776b4b42682a7fc17eac24f99.jpg
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a pic of the front end. i need some paint
http://a478.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/15/l_b31e8c91c93526049f5c5e34db5530fd.jpg

bellhousing in!
http://a832.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/125/l_466b3a2d429998a15fdde1edba6271d7.jpg

the bell housing is out of a 94 chevy. it was modified for a hydraulic slave on the side.
http://a739.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/61/l_a158fab90551da1c5a92b2503292deda.jpg

pic of my slave cylinder adapter on after modified the bellhousing. the lip on the edge of the housing was in the way so i trimmed it.
http://a589.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/71/l_86096deb60c268b85a8cef2708a70d14.jpg

cut out what was in the way of the tranny
http://a81.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/48/l_a66ba2a68f7984223432df879c80bef0.jpg
then sealed it back up
http://a141.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/1/l_997582fb36fbb6c8cad9e917836ec94c.jpg

then we put the tranny in:smokin:
http://a71.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/18/l_a9e2b23cc62ee101cce9eaf9c042fcb6.jpg

http://a980.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/4/l_691c5dac983a35116182e47252d5094b.jpg

http://a772.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/11/l_f30ef3c2cbd520e74a1b9e6b9f3f87cb.jpg

exhaust clearence
http://a403.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/96/l_093c798be96f88ac131df33171fd3122.jpg

and a few pics of my new dana 300 output yoke
http://a857.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/55/l_e98ef09ede547bf637158727a53b0c50.jpg

http://a420.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/12/l_a871af5b170d4368e01d0e8d3bd2e08b.jpg

and that is all for today. im very satisfied:beer: