: Tier wabling on a tj


Rurys
05-26-2008, 11:22 PM
Hi guys i kneed some help as what might be causing this isue i just installed a 6 inch Dick cipeck suspension and some 35 x12.5 Bf good rich tires and now each time i go over 30mile per hour i get this nasty tire wobbling issue could some one please help thank you guys

DarkEternal
05-26-2008, 11:29 PM
Never heard of a "tier" not to mention I have no idea how to diagnose "wabling" - never heard of it.

Now if you have wobbling tires you should try to balance them.

Rurys
05-26-2008, 11:50 PM
yes thats what i meant so now that you guys now that i cant spell for shiet may be i might be able to get a couple of pointers as what might be creating the tire wobbling issue the tires have been balanced some one mention something about the camber alignment was off can any one help??

noahsjeep
05-27-2008, 05:22 AM
yes thats what i meant so now that you guys now that i cant spell for shiet may be i might be able to get a couple of pointers as what might be creating the tire wobbling issue the tires have been balanced some one mention something about the camber alignment was off can any one help??
Are the tires balanced? Have they been torqued on evenly? Some say a first step is to move the front tires to back & if a change is detected, then you KNOW it's the tires/wheels, not mis-aligned driveline angles.

Reverage
05-27-2008, 05:27 AM
6 inch lift with or without SYE

How sure are you its the tires?

oldjeep
05-27-2008, 06:00 AM
Or how about 6" lift without having an alignment done? Chances are good that both your caster and toe-in are way out of whack.

chadjeep
05-27-2008, 06:15 AM
Are the tires balanced? Have they been torqued on evenly? Some say a first step is to move the front tires to back & if a change is detected, then you KNOW it's the tires/wheels, not mis-aligned driveline angles.

He already said they were balanced. Alignment would be first guess. Check your toe. If that's not it then check that everything was installed with the track bar correctly.

bsdboy
05-27-2008, 06:34 AM
X3 on the alignment, also need to check driveshaft/pinion and caster angles. Also loose CA bolts can be quite entertaining.

I'm guessing that you did a SYE tho, 6" on a TJ is quite a bit.

Rurys
05-27-2008, 10:21 AM
i took it to a couple of alignment places and they told me that this jeep does not have a castor adjustment that all they could due was the toe in or out adjustment i have not installed a drop pitman arm is this really nesesary to due??? could this be were my problem lies???
Also i steal need to install the transmission drop kit also??? like i said its a Dick cipeck plus 6 inch with some 15x10 inch rims the tires are some BF Goodrich 35x12.5 on them and they have been balance already.
I have replaced all four shocks eccept for the stabalicing shock it steal has the stock one on there.
any pointers would be much apriciatted thank you all.

Reverage
05-27-2008, 10:37 AM
Also i steal need to install the transmission drop kit also??? .

So no SYE with that much lift and your getting a wobble

wow

bsdboy
05-27-2008, 10:39 AM
Going to need confirmation on whether or not you installed a longer driveshaft in the rear.

The front caster is set by lengthening or shortening the front upper CA's, there is no caster adjustment on the axle so if your problem is caster to need to adjust the pinion.

Drop pittman arm should only be used if you dropped the track bar.

And it's 'still', not 'steal' :laughing:

Mean_Green
05-27-2008, 10:56 AM
Going to need confirmation on whether or not you installed a longer driveshaft in the rear.

The front caster is set by lengthening or shortening the front upper CA's, there is no caster adjustment on the axle so if your problem is caster to need to adjust the pinion.

Drop pittman arm should only be used if you dropped the track bar.

And it's 'still', not 'steal' :laughing:

the front caster would not be out of wack.

Did you install a SYE and CV shaft?

Rurys
05-27-2008, 10:57 AM
sorry for the ignorance what is a SYE??

bsdboy
05-27-2008, 11:09 AM
It's a slip yolk eliminator kit (SYE), along with constant velocity (CV) driveshaft.

Here is some nice reading, enjoy.

http://www.4xshaft.com/driveline101.html

DarkEternal
05-27-2008, 11:12 AM
the SYE will stop vibrations in the driveline but not a tire wobble.

Tire wobble im guessing is death wobble, which is alignment - you will need adjustable control arms like mentioned to get your castor within reason.

oldjeep
05-27-2008, 11:19 AM
Do you have a link to what is included in the kit? Not finding a 6" kit for a TJ anywhere.

Rurys
05-27-2008, 11:20 AM
No i have not installed an SYE yet and i am steal running the stock drive shaft so it sounds like i should be getting a SYE soon due you know the best place to get one at. and yes i am getting the so called Death wobble.
thank you all for yore attention so what would you guys sugest to start out at in order to eliminate the death wobble at.
1. Alignment
2.sye
3.longer shaft??

Rurys
05-27-2008, 11:25 AM
Here is the link to the suspension i got and ill get a picture of the jeep as soon as i can
http://www.extremesuspensions.com/store.php?path=index.php&cPath=22

Rurys
05-27-2008, 12:42 PM
I just wanted to say thank you guys for yore attention how ever i wheant on google an did a serch for the so called Death wobble and i found a lot of info thank you guys and ill keep you guys posted

bsdboy
05-27-2008, 01:02 PM
This is the lift?

http://extremesuspensions.com/retail_store/product_info.php?cPath=22_26&products_id=68&osCsid=b8fd11dcc0794e8759882e656bfbcebe

Some other things you may want to consider in the not-so-far future are brakes and steering upgrades. Good luck, keep us posted

oldjeep
05-27-2008, 01:25 PM
That's a weird lift. So instead of long arms, they drop the arm connection point about 2"?

Knuckelhead
05-27-2008, 04:12 PM
The front caster is set by lengthening or shortening the front upper CA's,

For the front, it's common to use adjustable lower control arms when lifted with larger tires...

MonsterSeven
05-27-2008, 07:51 PM
turn your rotors.

hoki06
05-27-2008, 08:08 PM
1. Learn to spell
2. Learn to use correct punctuation
3. Follow the advice and get an alignment

:flipoff2:

paulkeith
05-28-2008, 10:47 AM
You need to learn to spell. Wow. For your sake, I hope you're russian and in russia cobbling together some english.

Anyway, to fix death wobble, check the following:
1) caster (toe....in other words, get an alignment from a shop that knows how to deal with lifted linked suspensions)
2) trackbar
3) tie rod ends
4) balljoints
5) wheel bearings
6) steering box

Good luck, as its a bear to track down and solve.