: okay...sick of bending leaves...coilover time!!!!!!!!


Sillyneck
10-08-2001, 01:55 PM
I'm open for opinions. Here are my thoughts

I took some measurements of the Snort setup on lance's <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> Stealthy <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> I like it...but I am shooting for 4 wheel coil overs instead. (mabey a bad idea?) I want to zap my frame out of the back and tube it so I can have the coil overs in the same position front and rear so my suspension is perfectly balanced (maybe a bad idea??) the rear axle goes back 4" putting me @ 102" wb. At this point I don't want any geometry info...I just want a material list. Not sure about heims or bushings or threaded stock in the links for twist. I just want ideas from people who have seen what lasts, what werx, and what breaks. Links materials? proceed <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> thanx

The Rockslut
10-08-2001, 02:10 PM
Ahh yes! I too am tired of the leaf bending game. Ask <IMG SRC="smilies/massey.gif" border="0"> he did both rears in the box! Ha! God I love this.

Sillyneck
10-08-2001, 02:15 PM
yea I bent both BRAND new fronts just on the way to the box...granted I WAS PISS DRUNK! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

COMPLAINE
10-08-2001, 02:16 PM
Who cares about bent leavs, i would be concerned about broken ones.

Anyway coil overs are wayyy cool. Did you get a chance to look at welderboy's rig? The three link on the back was one of the beefiest i have seen yet! <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> Find out what he used and build it like that. I know when the day comes that i do a link suspension, i would like it to be that strong. Being stuck in the middle of nowhere and nothing holding your axle on does not sound like fun to me. so make i tuff.
just my opinion.

Ian-

Lance
10-08-2001, 02:21 PM
Originally posted by COMPLAINE:
<STRONG>Did you get a chance to look at welderboy's rig? The three link on the back was one of the beefiest i have seen yet! <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> </STRONG>

He is using MASSIVE TRE's from a cement truck <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> on the upper wish bone, and something like 1.5" Tractor heims on the lower links.

[ 10-08-2001: Message edited by: Lance ]

The Rockslut
10-08-2001, 02:38 PM
Welderboy's setup has some serious beef. I got a good look at it when he was stuck down in the box for a while. <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> How wide are his axles anyway?

camo
10-08-2001, 02:42 PM
hey drunken neck i can see how ramming into stuff while intoxicated and bending a $500 coil would be less upsetting than bending a $150 leaf spring. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0"> maybe you need a breathalizer key switch on that heep.

massey2jeep
10-08-2001, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by The Rockslut:
<STRONG>Ahh yes! I too am tired of the leaf bending game. Ask <IMG SRC="smilies/massey.gif" border="0"> he did both rears in the box! Ha! God I love this.</STRONG>

Uh yea, 90* is not good when you are a main leaf! <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0">

Phil-
Figure it out so that when I drop my rig up there with you, you can do it up!

I can't believe both rears!!! F$&K!!!!!!

I agree, Welderboys set up is SERIOUS BEEF! UNbelieveable.

<IMG SRC="smilies/massey.gif" border="0">

[ 10-08-2001: Message edited by: massey2kill Osama bin Ladin ]

Cliffy [JD]
10-08-2001, 03:04 PM
Do you leaf bendin' fools use traction bars/Axle wrap bars of any type???

What's up with drivin' piss drunk??? <IMG SRC="smilies/pissed.gif" border="0">

massey2jeep
10-08-2001, 03:06 PM
Originally posted by Cliffhanger:
<STRONG>Do you leaf bendin' fools use traction bars/Axle wrap bars of any type???
</STRONG>

Nope. <IMG SRC="smilies/frown.gif" border="0">

The Rockslut
10-08-2001, 03:20 PM
Originally posted by Cliffhanger:
<STRONG>Do you leaf bendin' fools use traction bars/Axle wrap bars of any type???

What's up with drivin' piss drunk??? <IMG SRC="smilies/pissed.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

Ha! Massey doesnt even have shocks! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

<IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0">

Dingo
10-08-2001, 03:44 PM
Why not try and use a design that seems to work well already, for example like the RE long-kit and adapt it to your rig? Seems like you could do something like that with out too much trouble....just a thought...... I don't think I have seen one with full-width axles. And yeah I realize you have a YJ.

Al Kaholick
10-08-2001, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by Cliffhanger:
<STRONG>What's up with drivin' piss drunk??? <IMG SRC="smilies/pissed.gif" border="0"></STRONG>
what else is there? I dont do drugs!

Sillyneck
10-08-2001, 04:42 PM
yea! welder boy has the goods! I might just swing by my local caterpillar depot <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> Or was it john deer? Whatever..there's big stuff and big hiems on the stuff so I bet they have big hiems for sale <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

What's a good tube thickness or should I be thinking solid? 1" or 1.25" or 1.5"

Now I mean stuff that's not gonna bend under seroius jumpage and smashage and or throttlage! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

I was going to use a a traction system front and rear but I am thinking I might just go all out and ditch the springs so my jeep looks cool when I roll <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

Sillyneck
10-08-2001, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by Cliffhanger:
<STRONG>
What's up with drivin' piss drunk??? <IMG SRC="smilies/grinpimp.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

First of all it was an accident <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">...there was a little hangtown involved at the spill way and one thing lead to another <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0">

Second of all I wouldn't call what I was doing driving <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

massey2jeep
10-08-2001, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by The Rockslut:
<STRONG>Ha! Massey doesnt even have shocks! <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

<IMG SRC="smilies/laughing.gif" border="0"></STRONG>

lol
Yea I do...for the rear axle anyway! <IMG SRC="smilies/redface.gif" border="0">

ToyFamily
10-08-2001, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by Sillyneck to the 3rd power:
Second of all I wouldn't call what I was doing driving <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">[/QB]


In the box neither would I
<IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0"> , Just kidding. The tractor heims and TRE's sound beef but wasn't someone saying they wear out or something. My set up will be on the rear of my DD/ rig ,so I don't need a joint that is used to going 1-15mph going out on me when I'm on the freeway at 70mph.

Blair
10-08-2001, 09:36 PM
For beefy yet cheap heim joints go to your local farm supply store or if lacking that go to a farm tractor dealership. Ask them for category II toplinks. These are about 34" when screwed out but can be easily lengthened. They have 1" bore with 1 1/8" threads. They are completely forged IIRc they are rated at like 44,000 lbs (of what I'm not sure <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0"> ) Anyway I have put about 5000 miles on mine. They don't make much noise and they don't seem to be worn at all. Best of all mine cost me $29.00 each. Thats for a threaded body and a rh and lh end. Good stuff, Later

Flatty
10-08-2001, 10:20 PM
Silly, did you see my setup yet? I am running the tractor heims too, with 2" .1875 wall DOM for the links. Talk about BURLY shiat. They work super pimp. I am able t lay the weight of the truck on them and laugh all day long.

Dimitri

Sillyneck
10-09-2001, 09:30 AM
sweet.

fatkid
10-09-2001, 09:46 AM
You should go spring under, that would fully get it. <IMG SRC="smilies/thefinger.gif" border="0">

snipes
10-09-2001, 10:13 AM
coils are great only regrets are that I didn't go big on the bars. My bars are 1 1/2 250 wall dom and very trussed I thought.I bent a bar and broke the end of the sway a way off. Got it home with no problem. I am going to use 2" 250 wall double stacked dom and big heims. So go big the first time.