No, not the stuff sissy's put in there coffee <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

the stuff ya put in your tires.

does this stuff really work?
I was quoted $15 a tire <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0">

Never heard of it <IMG SRC="smilies/confused.gif" border="0">....

You got some 'splainin' to do <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

I had it in one of my swampers by itself with no lead weights... It sucked! Their website says that the equal optimizes traditional balancing. So that tells me you need them somewhat balanced.

Hey Don, screw that stuff....does not work unless you put more than $15 worth of it in each tire!!!

We tried it in our big truck truck tires when I used to drive for a living and it definatly did not work. At times I think it made it worse.

Two problems with it that I've heard. First, it clumps if it gets wet, but supposedly a new version is coming out. Second, you need special valve stems so it doesn't come out.

Milan

cool, thanks for the feedback!

I'm kinda glad it sucks <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
I wasnt to crazy about puting $15 of "dirt" in each wheel.

OK, now how about weight patches?
will they actually stay on when the tire is aired down?

Thanks <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0">
Don

How bout these, Centramatic (http://www.centramatic.com/). Anyone ever given them a try?

There is a review on www.rockcrawler.com (http://www.rockcrawler.com)

balance rings are the schlizit!!

Originally posted by fc187:
<STRONG>cool, thanks for the feedback!

I'm kinda glad it sucks <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">
I wasnt to crazy about puting $15 of "dirt" in each wheel.

OK, now how about weight patches?
will they actually stay on when the tire is aired down?

Thanks <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0">
Don</STRONG>

I've heard good things about weight patches because they put the weight near the edge of the tire and not on the rim, plus they can't get knocked off. However, to put them in you have to remove the tire from the rim, then remount to further balance. So patches are expensive.

Milan

hmmmmmm, rings huh? hmmmm......how much do they go for?

I'm going to be getting a set of 39.5 TSL's next week and will need to have them mounted and balanced. In the past, I haven't had much luck with finding a tire place that handles tires that big but Discount Tire has just come to town and will be opening soon.

Does anyone know if Discount Tire handles tires that big and if they use the weight patches?

Originally posted by Dustball:
<STRONG>I'm going to be getting a set of 39.5 TSL's next week and will need to have them mounted and balanced. In the past, I haven't had much luck with finding a tire place that handles tires that big but Discount Tire has just come to town and will be opening soon.

Does anyone know if Discount Tire handles tires that big and if they use the weight patches?</STRONG>

I'm not sure about DTD, but big rig tire places definetly do patches.

Originally posted by fc187:
<STRONG>hmmmmmm, rings huh? hmmmm......how much do they go for?</STRONG>

I checked out that review on rockcrawler & they seemed to like them of course. I emailed centramatic about the price, still waitin. Seems like they're around 100$ a piece though, can't remember.

Robert Canon has those:
Roberts Axle writeup (http://www.frankentaco.com/taco/axle.html) I believe that he likes them. I wasn't able to find a specific writeup on his page about them though.

Originally posted by SwampTJ:
<STRONG> Seems like they're around 100$ a piece though, can't remember.</STRONG>

<IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> YOUZERS!!!! <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0"> <IMG SRC="smilies/eek.gif" border="0">

OK, now once again <IMG SRC="smilies/smile.gif" border="0">.... do golf balls really work? <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

I tried Equal and was unimpressed. Not sure if it helped any, plus you have to run these stupid filtered valve stem extensions. They get hung up on rocks, and it takes days to air down if you leave them on. If you do decide to try it, find a cheaper source. I got it right from the distributor and it was much less.

I priced out some balance rings, I think they were like $400, maybe more, and they still wouldn't promise it would solve the prob. I have my old 35s for extended street driving, mounted on non-beadlocked wheels. I think my beadlocks contribute significantly to the balance prob. w/the Swampers. I finally solved the problem with an 18' flat bed trailer and a 2500 Dodge.

Pete

The problem with the centramic (sp?) balancers is that they only will handle a certain amount of inbalance - I think like 6 or 8 onces. Most bias ply swampers are going to require a lot more weight than that.