I'm going down there at the end of the month. My crap is kinda street legal in oregon because of collector plates. That being said. I do have insurance and plates. However would like to drive it on the road as little as possible.

What do most people do when trailering their junk there? Is there a way back after running the whole trail without too much highway travel?

Thanks

Justin

Sure is, turn around and run it the other direction.

Was concedering that but am in a group that will probably run the street back.

How far toward the end are the good obstacials? Was thinking about truning around and heading back close to the end.

How long dose it take a decent driver and well built rig to run it backward?

We always park at our trailers at Cisco Grove camp ground, then drive one freeway exit to Eagle Lakes to the Indian Springs staging area. Depending on the size of the group we ususaly run the trail from Indian springs all the way to Meadow Lake and back to Winch Hill three and camp for the night. The next day head out the comittiee trail back to Cisco Grove.

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Thanks for the map. That looks do-able.

There are hard parts right from the get go, first is driveline hill. It's a good trail all the way through. If you go all the way up to meadow it's a long hike back on the road. I can run up and back in a day....long day. But I'm on 42 and all that jazz. It depends on your rig and how you want to drive.
Like shooter said eagle lakes to cisco is a good loop.

If you really wanted to hide from the chp, ie stay off the highway, it seems you could drive back through the Bowman area and just do a short stint on hwy 20 and I-80. Quicker than the trail and you wouldn't have to try your luck on hwy 89 and I-80 past Truckee.

I'd have to check a map but I'm pretty sure the road through the town of Washington goes all the ways to Meadow lake.

Just another option, though spending a night at Meadow and then driving back down the trail the next day sounds like more fun.

Is the road into Bowman from Washington closed in winter to wheeled traffic like the Fuller lake side is?

I'm going down there at the end of the month. My crap is kinda street legal in oregon because of collector plates. That being said. I do have insurance and plates. However would like to drive it on the road as little as possible.

Is it safe to drive on the highway? If it is and the collector plates don't limit the amount of distance you can drive it OR, than you should be fine here in CA. BAsically you are a guest here and your rig only has to meet the standards of street legal for your state, if you were a resident it would be completely different. I didn't clock it the last time I was there, but IIRC, it is about 60 miles from the pavement from Meadow lake to the Eagle Lakes turnoff. You would have about 20 miles of pavement from Fuller lake to Eagle Lakes turnoff, but about 30 miles of gravel road from Meadow to Fuller Lake, about a 2.5-3hr drive back to Eagle Lakes.

How many days have you set aside for Fordyce, just a weekend or longer? If you are going to hit the trail Friday afternoon, and finish it Saturday and camp at Meadow, you could run back down to the Committee crossing and exit through Fordyce lake on Sunday. This would allow you to run the entire trail, and only have to drive your rig a mile on the highway. There is usually less people on the trail on Sunday, and you are heading down the winch hills instead of up.

plan is to drive all night friday. hit trail saturday morning.

It is safe to drive on the street. I just dont like driving anything I wheel on the street.

One or two of the people i'm going with are trailering now but they drive theirs daily. I think i'll just do the up to medow lake turn around and back to cisco camp ground. That way i'm not leaving my tow rig in an empty parking lot.

Thanks for the replies.

Justin

I think i'll just do the up to medow lake turn around and back to cisco camp ground. That way i'm not leaving my tow rig in an empty parking lot.

Justin

The way you chose is the best way.

Park at Cisco Pay them $5 per day to watch your tow rig. Run 1 mile down to Eagle Lakes Start the trail run to Meadow turn around and go back to the committee crossing and you pop out next to your tow rig at the Cisco camp ground.

If you have a well built rig and know how to drive I bet you beet your group back to Cisco. You run down all the winch hills.

Basically you are a guest here and your rig only has to meet the standards of street legal for your state, if you were a resident it would be completely different.
While I agree that this is the way laws should be enforced, be aware that not all officers share this view.

Randii

While I agree that this is the way laws should be enforced, be aware that not all officers share this view.

Randii

That's for sure!! But having license and registration and insurance goes a long way. Next would be having taillights, horn, mud flaps, etc installed.
You have to meet the federal minimum standards to avoid a ticket. Yes a windshild is required, at least a plastic one.

http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/standards/FMVSS-Regs/index.htm

in oregon we dont need a windsheild just wipers. go figure.

I've got lights and all that jazz. No window or wipers though. Have to take them off and perserve every bit of life for the winter. Some states you have to pass their laws no matter what.

Do saftey glasses count as a window?

EX. in oregon you dont need to register a single axle light duty trailer. AZ. you do. And they will pull you over i found out.

Do saftey glasses count as a window?


Nope, I was cited for no windshield while wearing safety glasses:D

Anyone going in this saturday morning. could use another rig to go in with.

Anyone going in this saturday morning. could use another rig to go in with.

I heard someone in my group might be going in on saturday morning. I'll see if they still are and if so I'll call you so you can hook up. Why not come out Friday night when you get home?

collector plates, and vintage plates iirc are only allowed in the state they are issued. I believe they are viewed like farm equiptment plates, which some states issue where they are permited on state highways and local roads but are not allowed on interstates or outside of their home state. SOme states even go so far as to have a mileage radius limit or specific days of the week that you are only legal to drive on the road.

The reason this is in the back side of my head is i got ticketed by an Oregon state trooper outside of Altois on I84 for tow baring my 42 willys with montana Antique car plates (collector car paltes)they were new and state issued, i had insurance and all lights worked and his reasoning was similar to what i stated right above. They towed my willys and i had to go get a car trailer and pick it up, worst thing was i was heading to a parade in Sisters. now that was in 1998 so who knows how much things have changed in 10 years but its food for thought

I dont know why they would have a problem with tow bar'd vehicles. It is done all the time around here.

I agree on the plates are specific to states that is why i am concerned. You have to meet each states rules as far as I know.

Oregon dose have rules about how many miles it can be driven (2000 a year). And it is suppose to be for club, parade, and or special occiasions only.

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Oregon does have rules about how many miles it can be driven (2000 a year). And it is suppose to be for club, parade, and or special occiasions only.

There you go, its a "special club" event. Print up some flyers and take them with you. You can't help it if everyone else in the club flaked on the run:flipoff2:

I dont know why they would have a problem with tow bar'd vehicles. It is done all the time around here.

I agree on the plates are specific to states that is why i am concerned. You have to meet each states rules as far as I know.

Oregon dose have rules about how many miles it can be driven (2000 a year). And it is suppose to be for club, parade, and or special occiasions only.

it has to do with tires touching the ground, use of a public road....

When i got my ticket the basic liturature was that i needed a std license plate because std state plate dollars charge highway taxes and are recognized by a federal interstate agreement where as special collector plates are like farm plates and do not pay higway taxes and are only recognized for travel intrastate. which is where the problem arises, since taxes where only paid for the vehicle to be used intrastate i was restricted to my tires touching only montana "intrastate" roadways where as my pickup with std plates is recognized by the federal agreement and pays federal and state highway taxes so it was allowed to travel interstate... anywhere in any state as a visiting vehicle. it was quiet the education if i added up the trailer rental, the irritation, the phone call to my attorney to help try and fight the ticket.......

I remember fuming for about two weeks about it all and then finding out that there is a Huge difference in license plates and state taxes for interstate use vs intrastate hence why the higway patrol like to remind us of these things at the most inconvenient of times.

I agree on the plates are specific to states that is why i am concerned. You have to meet each states rules as far as I know.

Oregon dose have rules about how many miles it can be driven (2000 a year). And it is suppose to be for club, parade, and or special occiasions only.

This will likely be your problem, no windshield could be explained that it broke in a roll-over while on the trail. You shouldn't have a problem running from Cisco to Eagle Lakes, unlikely to see a CHP, though the trip from Meadow back along the highway would be more likely.

Another option would be to drop of the rig at Eagle Lakes, then take your trailer to Meadow and drive back. It would be about 3-4hrs round trip, but you wouldn't have to back track to Committee. Running back down to Committee would only be an issue if you had a severe/catastrophic breakage on the way into Meadow.

I know you guys have to consider travel time from OR, but you should really plan for an extra day on the trail. Yes it can be run in a day(sometimes a quick day others a very long day), however on a Saturday, you can easily be delayed 3hrs more than once on the trail for breakage.

I heard someone in my group might be going in on saturday morning. I'll see if they still are and if so I'll call you so you can hook up. Why not come out Friday night when you get home?

Not sure what time I'll be home. I've got nothing packed, no parts or tools ready. Nothings gassed up. Plus I'm supposed to go to fast Fridays with my old lady (she works there) Her brother's in town from Nebraska, so we're supposed to go get hammered and watch the races togethers.
Otherwise I would comeout friday.

Just got your call... I'm in SanDiego for a graduation right now, I'll give you a ring after the deal is over.