: 727 pan


james west
06-22-2008, 08:22 AM
i can't get my tranny pan to stop leaking. who sells an aftermarket pan? is it scout-specific?...what's your experience with/opinion of it?

thanks....i'll be degreasing my garage floor now:rolleyes:

levi1a
06-22-2008, 09:46 AM
Don't know if you have seen this or not . Might help you some.

http://pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=675566&highlight=727+pan

james west
06-22-2008, 01:26 PM
no i hadnt seen that...and yes, i think it helps.......you must know how to use that magical search function.......that didnt come on my version of pirate4x4.com:beer:

still not sure what to get/where to get it.....i want something new thats foolproof (no warp, dents, etc.)

levi1a
06-22-2008, 02:59 PM
Here you go. The student becomes the teacher. :D:beer:

http://www.puredieselpower.com/catalog/mag-hytec-dodge-72747re48re-transmission-pan-p-232.html

james west
06-22-2008, 03:12 PM
awesome......now paypal me $250 and we'll call it a day!.....i guess thats a reasonable deal......now that i know what and where it is, i can work on getting it cheaper:stirthepot:.......thanks alot!

Binder
06-22-2008, 07:15 PM
Just TRS (The Right Stuff) the thing on with no gasket. Also make sure it's the pan that is leaking. Shifter seal leaks, cooling line leaks, adapter leaks will all drip down and off of the pan.

james west
06-22-2008, 07:56 PM
good looking out....all the shit is stock...could be anything

Ben Segrest
06-22-2008, 08:10 PM
I've got one of these (http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=MOR%2D42080&N=700+4294925134+4294839071+4294922122+4294905607+ 115&autoview=sku) sitting in the spare room. Might put in on sometime this week. I've always sucked at sheetmetal engine/tranny covers. The one I got is deep sump and has 2 drain plugs and is a welded design. I liked it a little better than the others I looked at for 2 reasons. One the drain plugs are out the back, not the bottom, so a little more protected. Two, I like welded over cast. Seems more likely to deform vs. crack. YMMV. And if it works, heres the link to the full list of summit's 727 pans. Linky (http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=700+4294925134+4294839071+42949221 22+115+4294905607)

ihojeff
06-23-2008, 07:13 AM
We stock/sell these replacement pans - http://www.shopih.com/TRANS-PAN-727-p-T6.html
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james west
06-23-2008, 07:54 PM
i cant do chrome...its against my religion....but i know how to use a rattle can:flipoff2:

Ben Segrest
06-23-2008, 08:07 PM
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8143127&postcount=96

levi1a
06-23-2008, 08:38 PM
Looks like it is a good thing I decided not to paypal the original $240.

james west
06-24-2008, 03:32 AM
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8143127&postcount=96

now thats the spirit!!!:beer::beer::beer:

Ben Segrest
06-24-2008, 05:37 PM
Welcome

Blind Driver
06-24-2008, 06:12 PM
"The Right Stuff" will seal anything ;)

Bill usn-1
06-25-2008, 12:38 PM
My vote is on the shift shaft seal(2 of them) and not the pan.
But if you run the deep pan then also get the filter extension to lower it down.
Make it work much better when laying it on it's side or it's nose.

james west
06-25-2008, 05:52 PM
really i need a full "rebuild"...i have an art carr valve body and torque converter i've been sitting on for about 5 years that i've been waiting to PAY SOMEONE to install:shaking:............i guess its about time to get my shit together:idea:

Binder
06-25-2008, 07:26 PM
There is not much to installing the valve body. Hardest part is R&R-ing the pan....

james west
06-26-2008, 03:08 AM
There is not much to installing the valve body. Hardest part is R&R-ing the pan....


the included instructions talk about what springs and bands to use...its a manual reverse pattern valve body with compression braking....the tranny has about 125K on it....i just want it throughly gone through

lildave
06-28-2008, 06:54 PM
if your really worried about the pan gasket, you can get a reusable one off a 618tf there the same,good luck.:smokin:

james west
09-17-2008, 07:52 AM
finally getting around to doing this...where would i source a "filter extension?"...and should i try the dealer on the pan, or is there a cheaper solution?

jdjanda
09-17-2008, 08:18 AM
The extra capacity pan from summit came with an extension. Very important for proper function when the Scout is on the side, standing up, or nose in a hole.

james west
09-17-2008, 08:34 AM
The extra capacity pan from summit came with an extension. Very important for proper function when the Scout is on the side, standing up, or nose in a hole.


i guess thats this one...?
391637

i was trying to save a buck, but looks like i will just go this route

thanks.

Diesel Smoke
09-17-2008, 08:52 AM
i guess thats this one...?
391637

i was trying to save a buck, but looks like i will just go this route

thanks.

If you are trying to save a buck, save a few and go with the steel pan.

http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/dcc-3690730ab_w.jpg

Steel Chrysler Preformance Pan (http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=DCC%2D3690730AB&N=700+115&autoview=sku)

Then used what you saved and get the resable pan gasket, also Chrysler Preformance and I believe a dealer item.

james west
09-17-2008, 09:26 AM
summit (http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SME%2D1009&N=700+4294922122+4294905607+4294905620+4294905617+ 4294905618+4294904019+4294905608+115&autoview=sku)

about the same price...$15 difference....good call. i prefer the steel, un-modified look.

Diesel Smoke
09-17-2008, 09:32 AM
summit (http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=SME%2D1009&N=700+4294922122+4294905607+4294905620+4294905617+ 4294905618+4294904019+4294905608+115&autoview=sku)

about the same price...$15 difference....good call. i prefer the steel, un-modified look.

Holy Crap the price has gone up!! I think I payed 65 for it!:eek:

Ben Segrest
09-17-2008, 12:12 PM
There's another one that's cheaper in the list I linked to in my previous post. Actually there are 2, but one doesn't come with spacer (I don't know if a spacer will work with it).

$81.95
http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/der-14110_w.jpg


$69.95
http://static.summitracing.com/global/images/prod/large/dcc-4120161ab_w.jpg

james west
09-17-2008, 12:38 PM
you mean this?
link (http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=DCC%2D4120161AB&N=700+4294925134+4294839071+4294922122+4294905607+ 115&autoview=sku)
it comes with the spacer....good find:)

jdjanda
09-17-2008, 01:40 PM
i guess thats this one...?
391637

i was trying to save a buck, but looks like i will just go this route

thanks.

No the cheap stamped one.

Diesel Smoke
09-18-2008, 03:56 PM
No the cheap stamped one.

The cheap stamped one is exactly that......cheap!! Get a pan with the billet spacer and o-ring seal. Leaking fluid around the spacer is really more trouble then it's worth.

james west
09-18-2008, 05:42 PM
The cheap stamped one is exactly that......cheap!! Get a pan with the billet spacer and o-ring seal. Leaking fluid around the spacer is really more trouble then it's worth.

(not to be a smartass, but...) what difference does it make if the spacer is billet or not?...are you refering to an o-ring that goes in the spacer?...if so, how would you even know if it was leaking?...performance?




i guess i'm still asking (from the original post) what are your actual opinions, experiences, and suggestions, not just which is the cheapest...?

dont make me post a POLE

Chief yelling alot
09-18-2008, 11:15 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/A518-618-46RE-47RE-48RE-Transmission-Pan-Cooler_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1 247QQcategoryZ33727QQihZ003QQitemZ130234584989QQrd Z1QQsspagenameZWD1V

Diesel Smoke
09-18-2008, 11:27 PM
(not to be a smartass, but...) what difference does it make if the spacer is billet or not?...are you refering to an o-ring that goes in the spacer?...if so, how would you even know if it was leaking?...performance?




i guess i'm still asking (from the original post) what are your actual opinions, experiences, and suggestions, not just which is the cheapest...?

dont make me post a POLE


I have heard negative things about them, but never used one, as I have always bought the pan with the billet spacer, honestly out of blind luck. The O-ring goes between the pickup and the valve body. The extended pickup extends your filter down into the pan. Because you have an extended pan you have to extend the filter as well, if not when low on fluid or in an off camber situation you would suck air. With the sheet metal spacer I have heard it leaks and can pull air in where it meets the valve body. Like I said, I don't have any person experience with it, just warned against using it from others with extended pans, who had and experience problems.

james west
09-22-2008, 03:59 PM
i went ahead and order the $69 dollar one from summit. we'll be installing the valve body and torque converter too. i'll update on the install/performance in a couple weeks. thanks for the input.:smokin: