: How hard is it to get a gun permit in your state?


Urban Wheeler
07-03-2008, 04:46 PM
This is what I know about Indiana.


No felonies, and no domestic batteries.

Call your local PD, some will only take apps on certain days during certain hours.

Go to your local PD, or if you live in the country go to the local sheriff's office.

You'll need photo ID and you will be fingerprinted.

There is a local fee, $10 for a four year, and $50 for a lifetime.
The state fee is $30 for the four year, and $75 for the lifetime.

Depending on procedure at your local PD, you either pay the state fee (money order made to "State of Indiana") and supply stamps and they mail the app to the State Police, or you pick up the app a week later and mail it yourself, along with the fee.

The IN State Police says it takes 4 weeks for you to receive your permit.

A hunting/target permit is available, but no one here wants that permit. As was explained to me, as soon as you leave the range or the woods you must unload and break the gun down, and put it in the trunk or where you can't get to it. The personal protection permit allows you to carry (of course) but you can also hunt with it.

DavidVanVorous
07-03-2008, 04:51 PM
Dont need a permit in MT except for CCW, ditto WY and CO.

D.

HansGruber
07-03-2008, 06:49 PM
Dont need a permit in MT except for CCW, ditto WY and CO.

D.

Ditto for KY, too.

f0cker
07-03-2008, 07:00 PM
Dont need a permit in MT except for CCW, ditto WY and CO.

D.

So open carry is legal in CO even if you aren't a resident? Hmm..

TNToy
07-03-2008, 07:01 PM
Carry permit takes about 3 months to issue in TN. Sit through an 8-hour class to learn you can't shoot a guy in the back after he stole a case of beer, and pay $200-300 for class and permit.

Oh, and you must possess sight. Legally blind people can likely pass the shooting test, but a totally blind person would probably fail unless coached on the target's position. It's really tough.

BigGreenMonster
07-03-2008, 07:56 PM
sign up for a class... pay 150 bucks... sit in an 8 hr class... go threw a sled and fed background check... wait 90 days. supposidly SC is one of the hardest to get your cwp. with the SC and the utah cwp you can CC in most states... i have the brochure somewhere.

aloharover
07-03-2008, 08:01 PM
go to the Sherrifs office with my dd214 and some money. Photos and Prints.
10 days later arrived in the mail.

otherloginbroke
07-03-2008, 08:02 PM
MD is near inposible unless you own a business where you dirrectly deal with large sums of money, which you can only carry whe you have said money on you for business, or you're a cop, judge or public official
Its really a joke in MD human life isnt worth shit, but your bank roll sure is

DavidVanVorous
07-03-2008, 08:08 PM
So open carry is legal in CO even if you aren't a resident? Hmm..

Didnt say open carry nor did the individual asking the original Q, just said ye dont need a permit to own like in IN (and other states). CCW in MT is a tad squirrely but painless, class, fingerprints, fill out a form and pay the money.

http://www.gallatin.mt.gov/Public_Documents/gallatincomt_sheriff/Services/cwp

BASIC CRITERIA FOR GRANTING A CONCEALED WEAPON PERMIT:
1. Resident in Montana for six months
2. 18 years of age
3. Written documentation of firearms training - DD214. Hunter’s Safety Course or Handgun Safety Course (list is available at the Front Lobby Window)
4. No criminal record
5. Possess a Montana Drivers License or State I-D

WHAT IS THE COST AND HOW LONG IS THE PERMIT VALID?

Initial cost is $55.00, nonrefundable. Renewal cost is $25.00, nonrefundable.
Valid for four years, however, it can be revoked at any time.
You are responsible for costs of handgun safety course.

The fun part about that is is a permit to own counter to 2A and this last SCOTUS deal? :stirthepot: :D

D.

Scott@Rockstomper
07-03-2008, 08:25 PM
go to the Sherrifs office with my dd214 and some money. Photos and Prints.
10 days later arrived in the mail.

I wish mine was 10 days... try a little over 90. :(

Hey Pete, you know the list of documents that you can take them one of? A buddy of mine took all of them in with his app. :laughing:

And yes, f0cker, outside of Denver and/or any other no-carry places, if you can legally posess a firearm in CO, you can open-carry it with no permit.

Was the original post about purchase, open carry, concealed carry, hunting, transport... :confused:

DavidVanVorous
07-03-2008, 08:32 PM
I wish mine was 10 days... try a little over 90. :(

Hey Pete, you know the list of documents that you can take them one of? A buddy of mine took all of them in with his app. :laughing:

And yes, f0cker, outside of Denver and/or any other no-carry places, if you can legally posess a firearm in CO, you can open-carry it with no permit.

Was the original post about purchase, open carry, concealed carry, hunting, transport... :confused:

Owership by permit is the way I read it.

D.

Toyoda
07-03-2008, 09:16 PM
In fresno
figure 4-6 months. Call sheriff, get application and send back. Schedule appointment for interview (need to have a valid reason). If you pass they will let you know and you sign up for a class. 1 day class then you have to qualify with each weapon on your permit, max of 4 weapons in fresno through the sheriffs dept (3 through pd). Go to jail and get fingerprinted, wait for background check. After all that it will arrive in the mail.

Madera county is pretty easy, as well as kings and tulare.
LA and Sandiego are near impossible. Bay area is the worst, bunch of hippies up there.

Scott@Rockstomper
07-03-2008, 09:37 PM
Owership by permit is the way I read it.


That'd suck... we have no "purchase permit" or "ownership permit"; pass the background check and pay for what you're buying, have it at the range an hour later. It's good to live in a (relatively) free state.

cblood
07-03-2008, 09:43 PM
In NV (Washoe County) no permit needed, just background check at time of purchase through FFL dealer. Also can buy private party with no regulations. CCW is take class, go to jailhouse get fingerprinted, then FBI background check, and wait in mail for permit.

alwayzbroken
07-03-2008, 09:54 PM
I just had to fill out some papers that took 10 minutes at the sherriff's dept and I received my Minnesota permit to purchase in the mail the next day with the county sheriff's signature on it:D For my permit to carry I took the class then went to the sherriff with my certificate of course completion and my conceal and carry hardcard came in 3 business days:flipoff2:

DavidVanVorous
07-03-2008, 10:07 PM
That'd suck... we have no "purchase permit" or "ownership permit"; pass the background check and pay for what you're buying, have it at the range an hour later. It's good to live in a (relatively) free state.

When I went to Big Timber to pick up my sharps the 1st thing the gal at the counter asked was iffen I had a MT CCW cuz she really didnt want to fire up the background check 'puter. Took longer to do that than the actual check. And the wife asks what the big deal is about living in MT where its cold fer 11 mo out of the year... :D

D.

Pt_Ranger_V8
07-03-2008, 10:37 PM
what is theis permit you speak of?

why would someone try and infringe on your 2nd amendment rights?

Mud Soup
07-03-2008, 11:04 PM
Residents only have to go fill out paperwork for CCW. No prints or pics, PD from your town of residence must issue CCW permit unless written reason is provided within (I think) 14 days.

Vermin
07-04-2008, 01:47 AM
No permit and open carry. Suck it.

aloharover
07-04-2008, 05:14 AM
No permit and open carry. Suck it.

Yeah but the ATF just ruled that your CCW no longer counts as a background check for purchase. :D

Frankenyota
07-04-2008, 05:53 AM
It's a huge pain in the ass here. You have to be a member of a shooting club for 6 months, then fill out a form for each gun you want to buy (not nearly as easy as a 4473, more like NFA forms) and wait for approval. Then you can get approved to own semi auto rifles .22lr or smaller, and bolt actions of any caliber. Short bbls (no restriction at all) and supressors (walk into store, buy, walk out) are ridiculously easy though, that's the only good point. No handguns at all.

synovus
07-04-2008, 07:28 AM
No permit needed in AL. Walk in, choose your weapon, 10-15 minute wait while filling out forms and dealer (assuming you're buying from an FFL) makes call to feds, pay, and go to range. :D

CCW requires going to local sheriff's office, filling out a one-page form registering chosen pistol's serial number, waiting a week for background check, then going back to get pic taken, pay $20, and pick up license. Once you have your CCW, you can carry any pistol... not just the one you provided the serial number for on the application.

Not bad at all, IMO.

Doc Holiday13
07-04-2008, 08:21 AM
So open carry is legal in CO even if you aren't a resident? Hmm..

Its legal in VA too

Ooh and it took two weeks exactly from the time I submitted my paperwork till I received my carry permit. The only qualifications I needed to show for my permit was my hunters safety course card

pipehitter155
07-04-2008, 08:30 AM
Its legal in VA too

Ooh and it took two weeks exactly from the time I submitted my paperwork till I received my carry permit. The only qualifications I needed to show for my permit was my hunters safety course card

same here...

Napoleon047
07-04-2008, 09:40 AM
MO did away with Handgun aquisition permits a year ago, so its walk in and buy, CCW is a class (some as low as $50), $95.34 for background check and processing fees and up to 30 days wait. Otherwise open carry is legal in the state and only depends upon the municipality. As of 8/28/2008 silencers are legal in missouri as well.

On a side note, Gov Blunt's terms here in MO have been good to gun owners. We got CCW, lost the firearms purchase permits, and now we are getting silencers.

BTW: to all ye travelers out there, Missouri takes all other states concealed carry permits.

tmacie
07-04-2008, 06:34 PM
Its very hard to get any kind of gun permit here......they dont issue one to anybody!!

void_of_light
07-04-2008, 08:42 PM
Texas

issued gun at birth.

Scott@Rockstomper
07-04-2008, 09:09 PM
Its very hard to get any kind of gun permit here......they dont issue one to anybody!!

I heard Alaska will issue a permit exclusively for reciprocity reasons, and I know Colorado will only honor a permit from the carrier's home state (and if that state recognizes Colorado's permit--we're very junior-high about it here).

johncj5
07-05-2008, 09:06 AM
Pennsylvania

Print form from computer

Fill out form

Go to sheriffs office

Pay $31

Sit for 10 minutes

Camera goes off

Take new card

speedo
07-05-2008, 11:20 AM
I heard Alaska will issue a permit exclusively for reciprocity reasons, and I know Colorado will only honor a permit from the carrier's home state (and if that state recognizes Colorado's permit--we're very junior-high about it here).

Alaska residents are not required to have a permit for concealed carry, though the class is a good idea. If you're traveling outside the state and you want the reciprocity of states that you will be traveling in then you would need the CCW permit.

Gus

Rat~Man
07-06-2008, 08:21 AM
NC. Long guns. No permit, fill out the form, FFL makes the call. Done.
Hand guns. Sheriffs office. Fill out he form, wait, they call you and go get up to 5 at once. No more than five in a 12 month period. 6 bucks each. No prints, no pictures. Present permit to purchase whatever.
CCW, take class, pass. Fill out form at sheriffs office, pay 75 bucks, wait, get the call, pics, prints, permit. Flash to buy whatever without paperwork and calls. Whats funny is you can buy one as a CCW holder and literally hand it to your buddy without and its not a straw from what I've been told. :confused:

Private seller, no paper, swap cash and gun. Only law is the buyer must be 18 for long and 21 for hand if I've got that right. Personally I like to have a official transfer and have a copy of a permit to purchase a handgun or a copy of the FFL as CMA if I bought the gun through normal channels and my name is attached to the serial number somewhere.

Whats funny is WallyWorld had a shotgun I wanted. Guy tried to tell me I had to fill out the paperwork and wait while he called it in and that I could leave with the gun but could not purchase ammo for it. Even with a CCW. I heard the guy on the phone from the feds ream him a new one for calling in a CCW in NC. :laughing: "Just take his money and give him the gun"


Overall NC has taken a common sense approach to the whole gun thing that I like. Low stress and the local Sheriff wanted to try my 45 when I bought it. :-)

Dustin Smith
07-06-2008, 08:26 AM
No permit for gun ownership. I absolutely, positively would not live in a state that required me ask their permission to own, buy, or sell a gun.

Scott@Rockstomper
07-06-2008, 08:40 AM
Hand guns. Sheriffs office. Fill out he form, wait, they call you and go get up to 5 at once. No more than five in a 12 month period. 6 bucks each. No prints, no pictures. Present permit to purchase whatever.

Wait, what? No more than 5 handguns a year? Or no more than 5 purchase permits (for five handguns each) a year?

Not that I even own five handguns :( but I think you can buy more handguns in less time in California.

Does the CCW get you around the purchase-quantity limit too, or just the background check?

Rat~Man
07-06-2008, 09:16 AM
Wait, what? No more than 5 handguns a year? Or no more than 5 purchase permits (for five handguns each) a year?

Not that I even own five handguns :( but I think you can buy more handguns in less time in California.

Does the CCW get you around the purchase-quantity limit too, or just the background check?


No more than 5 per 12 months from a FFL. That is the number of permits you can get. Easy enough to get around, my wife got 5, I got 5. I can buy as many as I want from private sellers.

CCW, you can buy whatever and however many you want. No calls, no questions other than the ATF's eyebrows are going to raise when they see you bought 15 handguns one day at the gun show. :laughing:

Either way, as a resident of NC, I find their approch to it all to be quite sane and a certian amount of common sense is used.

Richard
07-06-2008, 09:25 AM
take ccw course , and pass it ,make appointment with the Sheriffs office , take course certificate and application down to Sheriffs office with a check to them and one to the State Police , wait till permit shows up in the mail , as long as the background check clears

Dustin Smith
07-06-2008, 09:32 AM
No more than 5 per 12 months from a FFL. That is the number of permits you can get. Easy enough to get around, my wife got 5, I got 5. I can buy as many as I want from private sellers.

CCW, you can buy whatever and however many you want. No calls, no questions other than the ATF's eyebrows are going to raise when they see you bought 15 handguns one day at the gun show. :laughing:

Either way, as a resident of NC, I find their approch to it all to be quite sane and a certian amount of common sense is used.

How is requiring you to ask the state for permission to buy a gun sane? How is restricting how many times you exercise your constitutional right a common sense approach?


In Oklahoma, I can buy one gun, or a hundred, in one day. I can do that every day of the year. I dont have to have a permit, or a letter from my mother.

Rat~Man
07-06-2008, 10:09 AM
How is requiring you to ask the state for permission to buy a gun sane? How is restricting how many times you exercise your constitutional right a common sense approach?


In Oklahoma, I can buy one gun, or a hundred, in one day. I can do that every day of the year. I dont have to have a permit, or a letter from my mother.

Well, I see it as a compromise between the extremes myself. Its only on handguns as well. This helps to make sure the 'unfit' do not legally purchase a handgun. If you want to buy more or circumvent, you simply get the CCW. Its not like you dont have options. The CCW class is one day, costs on average 125 bucks then the processing fee's from the state are 75 bucks.

I can buy as many long guns in a day as I'd like. I also hold a CCW and can buy as many handguns as I want in a day. All of this was prior to Heller. Now there are rumbles about some changes in the process here. I never said it was perfect but at least there was something of a reasonable approach to it all. I'm not bothered by it at all myself and I live here. Glad your state has a setup you like as well. As a gun owner I always thought it was reasonable. Mostly because it addressed several concerns, hot headed purchases, felons, wanna be thugs and such were less likely to run the process. Thing is as well, there is no registration process. Once the permit is issued the only info the Sheriffs dept has is the fact you got a permit to purchase. What you buy is not given to them unless the request that from the Feds.

Along the lines of Heller, I see it as reasonable with the exception of the 5 per 12 months part. That is likely to change soon with Heller being handed down. At least here I can buy anything the Feds see as legal, doesn't matter what color it is or how big the mag is, hell, it could have 4 pistol grips on it 666 baby killer engraved in it for all the state cares. Understand all this is through FFL only. Private transfers are not regulated other than legal age requirement. Even that is not really looked at. Open carry is also legal.

Dustin Smith
07-06-2008, 10:16 AM
Im sorry, I dont see any of that as reasonable. In my opinion, the background checks are an egregious infringement upon my right to own a firearm. Due to this, I try to make the vasy majority of my purchases FTF.

All the crap you listed is nothing more than anti-gun rhetoric. People who are mad should not be allowed to buy a gun, because they "MIGHT" hurt someone? Wannabe Thugs do not have consitutional rights?

Rat~Man
07-06-2008, 10:25 AM
Im sorry, I dont see any of that as reasonable. In my opinion, the background checks are an egregious infringement upon my right to own a firearm. Due to this, I try to make the vasy majority of my purchases FTF.

All the crap you listed is nothing more than anti-gun rhetoric. People who are mad should not be allowed to buy a gun, because they "MIGHT" hurt someone? Wannabe Thugs do not have consitutional rights?


Some part of reasonable you don't understand? Myself as a gunowner I do not see a background check as a issue. Period. Ok, so maybe thats flawed but in the grand scheme of things I see it as a happy medium between the extremes.

I'm OK with that.

As far as ownership there are no unreasonable restrictions here. No registration, no 'keeping' clauses like trigger locks, safes, ammo 3 rooms away, cables through the actions etc... that you see elsewhere.

The mad thing is fairly simple to understand. Hell, even the purchase of a new car gives you a 3 day turnaround if you change your mind. Whats so bad about a purchase permit process? Enough to keep the gungrabbers at bay and simple enough for the wannabe gun owner to follow through with. As I said, I dont agree with the number restriction but, rumor has it that is going to change.

I figure there are a few million citizens in this country. That equals a few million differing opinions on how things should be done. I see NC's setup as a middle of the road approach that keeps everyone reasonably content and quiet. :laughing:

Dustin Smith
07-06-2008, 10:39 AM
I've never been much of a middle of the road kinda guy. I prefer my rights undiluted, and I could care less if I keep the anti-gunners happy. They are wrong, and I am right, its a pretty simple concept.

In my opinion, even CCW permits are a horrendous infringement upon my rights. Its nothing more than asking the government if I can exercise my rights.

Rat~Man
07-06-2008, 10:48 AM
I've never been much of a middle of the road kinda guy. I prefer my rights undiluted, and I could care less if I keep the anti-gunners happy. They are wrong, and I am right, its a pretty simple concept.

In my opinion, even CCW permits are a horrendous infringement upon my rights. Its nothing more than asking the government if I can exercise my rights.


Ok, so you are one extreme. No biggie. There are a lot who think like you do. There are also a lot who think the other extreme. All of them are citizens. Most vote. A reasonable approach is somewhere in the middle. Thats where I am. Reasonable restrictions that pacify both ends to a point are ok by me.

Dustin Smith
07-06-2008, 10:54 AM
You have every right to feel that way...just as anti-gunners have that right. It doesn't make them, or you, any less wrong.

ANY infringement is unexcusable. A "reasonable" concession is just as bad, if not worse, than an all out ban, in my opnion. "Reasonable" restrictions is a slippery slope, and exactly what has causd this nation to lose so many of its rights and freedoms.

Rat~Man
07-06-2008, 11:07 AM
You have every right to feel that way...just as anti-gunners have that right. It doesn't make them, or you, any less wrong.

ANY infringement is unexcusable. A "reasonable" concession is just as bad, if not worse, than an all out ban, in my opnion. "Reasonable" restrictions is a slippery slope, and exactly what has causd this nation to lose so many of its rights and freedoms.


Ok, but I thought that was what Heller was about. "Reasonable" becoming unreasonable.

BTW, your spelling is as bad as mine. download FF you slacker. :flipoff2:

Urban Wheeler
07-06-2008, 11:09 AM
Some on ementioned reciprocity... Not all states recognize each other's permits/licenses. I know OH won't recognize an IN permit because they require a safety course, and IN doesn't.

Here's a link to see what states recognize each other's permits.
http://www.handgunlaw.us/

Hef
07-07-2008, 10:45 AM
South Carolina:

Took the class, which includes qualification on the range and meets the requirement for the NRA certificate needed to apply. Cost $175, and includes prints and photos.

Sent in my application, photos, print cards, and $50 app fee and the state took the full 90 days to send my permit. They were very nice every time I called and answered all my questions. Overall, pretty easy.

New Hampshire:

I sent in my application and $20 app fee, along with a color copy of my SC permit. I had a NH non-res permit in my hand within 2 weeks.

Connecticut:

I sent in my application and app fee (can't remember the cost), along with a color copy of my SC permit and copy of my NRA certificate. I had a permit in my hand in 6 weeks. The CT Special Licensing & Firearms Unit was very friendly and helpful whenever I called.

EDIT: The gun permits are for carrying only, not for purchases. In SC, the permit is for concealed carry only, while the CT and NH permits are carry permits that do not specify open or concealed.

tsm1mt
07-08-2008, 02:42 PM
In my opinion, even CCW permits are a horrendous infringement upon my rights. Its nothing more than asking the government if I can exercise my rights.

I've been reading a little history on CCW in Montana, and the background is that the reason we issue CCW permits (and prohibit CCW in towns and logging camps, but allow it just about anywhere else) is because it was believed that polite society would OPEN CARRY, and only someone with something to hide would want to carry concealed.

Who would think of concealing their weapon, instead of just carrying it out in the open where it's real handy. ;)

I live in Montana, in a different county from David.

Should have my CCW permit any day now.. said it'd take 2 weeks give or take to wrap it up after my interview (which took 3 weeks to get scheduled - seems there's been a run on CCW permit applications lately).

Interview was easy - here's the form, here's my ID, here's my hunter's safety (from 1993) card, now go get inked (which was electronic anyhow).

When I left, I grabbed another half dozen applications to hand out to my mom, her co-workers, and my co-workers.

But, as it's been said, we don't need anything to buy or own a firearm, other than the money to pay for it. And a loaded gun in the glovebox is A-OK here.

Technically, as I read the laws, I need a CCW permit so I can carry a rock, or the occasional hammer that might be in a pocket or slightly obscured by my jacket, since I consider both Deadly Weapons (they specifically mention dirks, brass knuckles, pistols, sword canes, then list off "and other deadly weapons")

Halogrinder
07-08-2008, 07:48 PM
Texas

issued gun at birth.

negative:


buy gun. get good shooting it.
take classroom exam.
take shooting exam.
wait.
and wait.
wait.
wait.
wait.
wait.
wait.

receive CCW licence
still havent got mine :mad3:

it was received 4/24/08!

DavidVanVorous
07-08-2008, 08:50 PM
I've been reading a little history on CCW in Montana, and the background is that the reason we issue CCW permits (and prohibit CCW in towns and logging camps, but allow it just about anywhere else) is because it was believed that polite society would OPEN CARRY, and only someone with something to hide would want to carry concealed.

Who would think of concealing their weapon, instead of just carrying it out in the open where it's real handy. ;)

I live in Montana, in a different county from David.

Should have my CCW permit any day now.. said it'd take 2 weeks give or take to wrap it up after my interview (which took 3 weeks to get scheduled - seems there's been a run on CCW permit applications lately).

Interview was easy - here's the form, here's my ID, here's my hunter's safety (from 1993) card, now go get inked (which was electronic anyhow).

When I left, I grabbed another half dozen applications to hand out to my mom, her co-workers, and my co-workers.

But, as it's been said, we don't need anything to buy or own a firearm, other than the money to pay for it. And a loaded gun in the glovebox is A-OK here.

Technically, as I read the laws, I need a CCW permit so I can carry a rock, or the occasional hammer that might be in a pocket or slightly obscured by my jacket, since I consider both Deadly Weapons (they specifically mention dirks, brass knuckles, pistols, sword canes, then list off "and other deadly weapons")

Tom, is the run on CCW permits due to the rampant problem with whitetail gangs terrorizing parts of your fair city and the city elders not doing anything about it? :D

D.

tsm1mt
07-09-2008, 08:19 AM
Tom, is the run on CCW permits due to the rampant problem with whitetail gangs terrorizing parts of your fair city and the city elders not doing anything about it? :D

D.

LOL. I was thinking maybe it had to do with election season. ;)

I've often considered roping one of those big whitetails that graze on mom's flowers and dragging it out of the city limits to where I could legally shoot it. ;)

There was an incident a few years ago where someone shot a deer with a bow in the city.. things might've been just fine, if it hadn't wandered into someone else's backyard before expiring.

FourFun
07-09-2008, 08:25 AM
Texas is pretty easy. Took the class back in December and had my license in hand 3-4 months later. No Felonies, background check etc etc.

B.O.R.D.
07-17-2008, 12:41 PM
Anybody in El Dorado county CA know what is involved in there? I have heard that CCWs are "will issue" in EDC.

Hoxviii
07-17-2008, 11:03 PM
permit. . . .:laughing:

oh, whew, that's a good one. :D

In Missouir you can have a handgun in 30 minutes if you aren't a felon, are over 21, and submit the instant background check.

Justin