i am going to start building my jeep up soon and am woundering if i need 60s. Here is what i am going to have.
.strocker 4.7 with supercharger i think it shuld be around 350 375 hp
.atlas 4 speed
.6 inch long arm kitfrom sky jacker
.38 or 40 inch creapy crawlers tires from traxis
. comp cutting the fenders
. bead lock rims
.full cage
.air pump
.winch
.bumbers and full cage
.and i think i want to boat side it

i am going to start building my jeep up soon and am woundering if i need 60s. Here is what i am going to have.
.strocker 4.7 with supercharger i think it shuld be around 350 375 hp.atlas 4 speed
.6 inch long arm kitfrom sky jacker
.38 or 40 inch creapy crawlers tires from traxis
. comp cutting the fenders
. bead lock rims
.full cage
.air pump
.winch
.bumbers and full cage
.and i think i want to boat side it


hmm..i wonder what you should go with ?

Dana 60s Buddy

wtf kinda question is this? shit if you can afford 60s do it...

i am going to start building my jeep up soon and am woundering if i need 60s. Here is what i am going to have.
.strocker 4.7 with supercharger i think it shuld be around 350 375 hp
.atlas 4 speed
.6 inch long arm kitfrom sky jacker
.38 or 40 inch creapy crawlers tires from traxis
. comp cutting the fenders
. bead lock rims
.full cage
.air pump
.winch
.bumbers and full cage
.and i think i want to boat side it

First off strocker's are sweet...

Next I love the Traxis Creepy Crawlers...

I havent seen bumbers in a loooooong time...

This kind of boat?
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g18/CTFriel/Failboat.jpg

iv lookd at currie and dimond axls for complet axls. an outher web sites i could go to

I have looked at Currie and dimaond axles for complete axles. Are there any other web sites i can go to?

Fixed so people can read it... :shaking:

Fixed so people can read it... :shaking:

thanks man

Seriously, just ask the install shop.

Think Hi 9" and 609's for axles. They are on par with your budget from what you listed and are the best parts of a D60 combined with a 9" axle or a high pinion 9" axle. They are built to light and very strong.

Are you really asking if you should put 40" Creepys on a Dana 44?

:laughing:

-----Matt-----

You asked for opinions so here's mine. If you're just STARTING to build a rig with those specs ( Blown stroker, 40's,full cage, boatsides,etc.) I wouldn't use an XJ as a base. Consider a TJ a YJ with a full frame and removeable body, not a Uni-body vehicle. You'll save yourself a ton of headaches, fab work, time, and money.

well obviously everyone is goin to say run 60's if you can. Me and 4 or 5 of my friends run HP dana 44 fronts and ton rears. Yeah we break stuff in the front end from time to time, but to me its just a matter of cost and availablility of spare parts as to why we run the 44 up front...

Obviously you've done a bunch of research on power plants and other things, so keep doing it on axle choices like you're doing. No, the 44's are a bad choice, and a waste of initial build money. Once you go beyond the 44's, there's no "right" or "best" axle, it's what you decide will work best for you after you do your research, and based on your budget. There is a TON of information out there on the various axle combinations, so a search will get you pretty far. There are also a bunch of axle builders these days, so you aren't limited to Currie and Dynatrac as the major ones.

You also haven't said how much fabbing you plan to do yourself. Axles can be built cheaper than they can be bought, if you're willing and able. Sounds like you're dumping some dough into this build, not a cheap motor choice, and you can spend a ton more an axles. What's your budget?

Obviously you've done a bunch of research on power plants and other things, so keep doing it on axle choices like you're doing. No, the 44's are a bad choice, and a waste of initial build money. Once you go beyond the 44's, there's no "right" or "best" axle, it's what you decide will work best for you after you do your research, and based on your budget. There is a TON of information out there on the various axle combinations, so a search will get you pretty far. There are also a bunch of axle builders these days, so you aren't limited to Currie and Dynatrac as the major ones.

You also haven't said how much fabbing you plan to do yourself. Axles can be built cheaper than they can be bought, if you're willing and able. Sounds like you're dumping some dough into this build, not a cheap motor choice, and you can spend a ton more an axles. What's your budget?

i am looking to spend around 25 30,000 i just joind the navy and got a big sign on bounes so it will take a while to build. i would like to make my own suspension and stuff to help cost but dont know where to start and axls i can build my own not sure were to start there ether.

Hell while you're at it why stop with 60's? If you're gonna put that much in the rig run rockwell's.

Hell while you're at it why stop with 60's? If you're gonna put that much in the rig run rockwell's.

Why go old school and use axles that are way heavy, out dated and will stress the shit out of the rig?:laughing:

The fact you are another newbie with a kindergaden answer is too funny.:lmao:

Get a clue.:shaking:

With that budget 609's are the way to go with a pair of Hi-9 third members.

Light weight easy to add brackets onto them, tons of clearance and more then strong enough.

You asked for opinions so here's mine. If you're just STARTING to build a rig with those specs ( Blown stroker, 40's,full cage, boatsides,etc.) I wouldn't use an XJ as a base. Consider a TJ a YJ with a full frame and removeable body, not a Uni-body vehicle. You'll save yourself a ton of headaches, fab work, time, and money.

I have to agree with this. I have built an XJ (for family) and a buggy. Why would you start with an XJ for this project? With the budget you stated, and assuming you can do any of the work, you would be well on your way to a nice buggy. If you need a street legal rig, and you're doing "HARDCORE" trails, it might not honestly be the best starting point. I love XJ's and have seen several that are very capable, but they require considerably more engineering than several other starting points. I'm certainly not saying "don't do it", just wanted to make sure you know what you're getting involved with? Oh, and to answer the question.....60's, or my personal preferance.....60 front with 14b rear. (Unless of course you want to "bling" 609's and have the knowledge to "maintain" them.)

Hell while you're at it why stop with 60's? If you're gonna put that much in the rig run rockwell's.

Ummmm....that should keep it "nice and low"?:shaking:

i am looking to spend around 25 30,000 i just joind the navy and got a big sign on bounes so it will take a while to build. i would like to make my own suspension and stuff to help cost but dont know where to start and axls i can build my own not sure were to start there ether.

Well, with that budget, and with that motor, I'm assuming you want to be able to go fast as well as do rockcrawling and trails. Also, to want both a stroker and a blower, you must be planning to do sand or mud. Also, since you're spending that much on an XJ, I assume you want it to be a street vehicle, and drive it to the trails.

The 609's are hard to beat, strong and light weight, which is good if you want to haul ass or do some dune running. Check out what Spidertrax is offering, they just came out with their full line of Spider9 stuff, and it's pretty good. A 609 is especially good in the front because of it's lighter weight, compared to any D60. You have a lot of choices for the rear. If you do a lot of street driving, and you'll have good power, and since you're building a full bodied rig we don't know how much real hardcore rockcrawling you're going to do, a relatively inexpensive shaved low pinion D60 could be a good choice. While high pinion is nice, if you don't really need it (we don't know how you're going to use this rig yet) a low pinion D60 has the highest pinion of any low pinion axle, and they're pretty damn strong.

If you have the money, there are MANY choices, it depends on what you like and what your goals are.

i want a capable rig that can go down any trail. and i just need it to be street legal so i can drive it to the trails. Im starting with the xj becuase i already have it i would love to by yj or something but motor is around 10,000 axle so for were iv looked is another 10000 tan i got suspension and tubing to by so i think im stuck with the xj

i want a capable rig that can go down any trail. and i just need it to be street legal so i can drive it to the trails. Im starting with the xj becuase i already have it i would love to by yj or something but motor is around 10,000 axle so for were iv looked is another 10000 tan i got suspension and tubing to by so i think im stuck with the xj

For about $300 you can get all the XJ youll need.:D
http://rustysoffroad.com/mm5/media/exterior/panels/ror2rf.jpg (http://rustysoffroad.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=rustys&Product_Code=RA-FFR-XJ&Category_Code=BODY)

Build a buggie.

Get a trailer and tow rig and wheel it, Driving to the trails is no problem its driving home:flipoff2:

Get a trailer and tow rig and wheel it, Driving to the trails is no problem its driving home:flipoff2:[/QUOTE]

i now that.

on the spidertrax the front 3rd is it the same as the rear or do u need difrent gears.

Get a trailer and tow rig and wheel it, Driving to the trails is no problem its driving home:flipoff2:

i now that.

on the spidertrax the front 3rd is it the same as the rear or do u need difrent gears.

It depends on what center section you use, but yes, they are the same front and rear. Choices are a standard low pinion 9" center section, or a TrueHi9 high pinion center section.

Why spend so much on the motor? I'd love to have the power of a well built blown stroker, but it's a bunch of money that could be put else where. For most, one or the other is enough. Where and what are you planning to wheel?

So you just joined the Navy? And you think you're going to have time and a place to do the build you've outlined?
If I were you, I'd put the "sign-up bonus" in a 12 month CD. Unless the military has changed significantly since I participated, you will hardly have time to think about anything other than what "they" tell you you can think about, for at least a year. Then the Navy has this thing about putting you on a "boat", where you may find it difficult to "build" anything, but a yearning for civilian life.
I tried to put a 350 in my '52 Chevy coup, while on "permanent" assignment. Bought the engine & tranny, etc. Tore out the old 6, and was non-ceremoniously informed that I had a new duty station to report to! And, no, they would not pay to ship my "kit" to my new duty station. Moral? Don't get involved in long-term projects, like building a serious rock crawler while a "grunt" in the Service. Save that bonus, and plan carefully for when you will have the time--like 4 years from now?

So you just joined the Navy? And you think you're going to have time and a place to do the build you've outlined?
If I were you, I'd put the "sign-up bonus" in a 12 month CD. Unless the military has changed significantly since I participated, you will hardly have time to think about anything other than what "they" tell you you can think about, for at least a year. Then the Navy has this thing about putting you on a "boat", where you may find it difficult to "build" anything, but a yearning for civilian life.
I tried to put a 350 in my '52 Chevy coup, while on "permanent" assignment. Bought the engine & tranny, etc. Tore out the old 6, and was non-ceremoniously informed that I had a new duty station to report to! And, no, they would not pay to ship my "kit" to my new duty station. Moral? Don't get involved in long-term projects, like building a serious rock crawler while a "grunt" in the Service. Save that bonus, and plan carefully for when you will have the time--like 4 years from now?



thats the same thing my parents say lol i will probly wait a while.But im an EOD tec and i will never get asignd to a ship, i will go were i am needed and stuff like that

Why spend so much on the motor? I'd love to have the power of a well built blown stroker, but it's a bunch of money that could be put else where. For most, one or the other is enough. Where and what are you planning to wheel?[/QUOTE]


i live in sc so i will be wheelin bud trails and the ohv parks around like telico and stuff and i want close to 400 hp thats why i wanted to build that engien.i would love a v8 but that would be a new trany wireing all that good stuff i figuerd that the blown stroker would be cheaper

You can get a LS1/Tranny combo for less than 1/2 of your motor budget. Maybe even 1/4. All you have to do is look.

Hmmm, high RPM HP in Tellico rocks....
I know where you're going with this.
Go big on the axles, or stay on the trailer.

You can get a LS1/Tranny combo for less than 1/2 of your motor budget. Maybe even 1/4. All you have to do is look.
Ive found Four LS1s in a month $1500-2000 within 2hr drive, They are always sold yesterday :flipoff2:

thats the same thing my parents say lol i will probly wait a while.But im an EOD tec and i will never get asignd to a ship, i will go were i am needed and stuff like that

:laughing:Hahaha, take it for what it's worth, have you left for boot camp yet???? If not, you won't be an "EOD tech". That is a very long and drawn out "SPEC WAR" type thing. You need to go back and talk to your recruiter, I feel you just might have been lied too. Did he inform you that you will only get half of your TAXED bonus up front, and the other TAXED half paid out over the term of your enlistment, which if you're getting that much I am pretty sure that you signed for 6 years.

Now I am not a "SPEC WAR" bubba persay, but I have ALOT of experience working with them, they STAY deployed. My first year with them I was deployed 331 days in a year, not bitching about it, but it did put a damper on my marriage, (Dmaned Columbian/Panamian girls):flipoff2: and my Jeep didn't get much more attention than she did.

Like I said, take it for what it is, but I say save the money and wait.

BUT MY VOTE IS 60's all the way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:flipoff2::flipoff2:

You asked for opinions so here's mine. If you're just STARTING to build a rig with those specs ( Blown stroker, 40's,full cage, boatsides,etc.) I wouldn't use an XJ as a base. Consider a TJ a YJ with a full frame and removeable body, not a Uni-body vehicle. You'll save yourself a ton of headaches, fab work, time, and money.

True with the ease of build, but the platform to be built is just as much fun to build as wheeling it. Just buying pre built stuff to bolt under is a really nice way to do it but the choice of platform is the fun stuff. With this sounding budget, why not get a pre built frame, Alluminum tub, i like the idea of the spidertrax or 609 setup. The same strength if not stronger, lighter, tighter.
why not just order up a tube frame at that route.
Whatever ya do, its yours. Do what you like. Learn what you can from others mistakes but asking about choices and you will rack your head thinking about it.. Link it, leaf, coil spring, coil overs, air shocks, tcase options,
60 and 14b is nice, cheaper, but a trick setup would be 9" setups.
Portals, rocks..
Enjoy it and do it the way you want. If your doing it to just get something done and never look back, or a learning fun time, whatever it is, keep it fun.
my 2 cents

Oo and dont spend months planning and replanning and over and over. Make a choice, stick to it and build it! Otherwise it will be a pile of parts or just an idea on a bar napkin.

[QUOTE=lockedupLJ;8503792]:laughing:Hahaha, take it for what it's worth, have you left for boot camp yet???? If not, you won't be an "EOD tech". That is a very long and drawn out "SPEC WAR" type thing. You need to go back and talk to your recruiter, I feel you just might have been lied too. Did he inform you that you will only get half of your TAXED bonus up front, and the other TAXED half paid out over the term of your enlistment, which if you're getting that much I am pretty sure that you signed for 6 years.

i am a navy eod tec and it is a S.O job but you have to be in the programe 90 days and you go take a pst every 2 weeks and you have to improve every two weeks or you will ot ship with your contract i was not lied to or any thing like that. i did a lot of reserch and stuff be for i ever talked t a rec

30 grand to spend? The best advice I can give ya is buy a turn key rig.
Advantages?
How 'bout;
Buy it today, wheel it tomorrow.
Spend a ton less than doing it yourself, with the money left over you can buy more tools, personalize the rig, take a trip, Bank it, get a Boob job,etc.
Get more of a rig than the same amount can buy DIY'ing it.
You get the idea.

Get more of a rig than the same amount can buy DIY'ing it.


Only if the builder isn't charging him labor.
He'd be better off spending that much jack on welding classes and fab
equipment, and the rest on parts.

Naw, not a new rig. I should have specified a turn key USED vehicle. That's where you get a lotta bang for yer buck.