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: pat gremelions new rig?

aaronlosey
07-27-2002, 12:46 PM
anyone have the lowdown on his new ifs/irs rig? pics and specs?
coyote
07-27-2002, 02:22 PM
From Offroad Adventures....looks like a Ford 302 with C4 and Atlas 3, Diff's hummer corporate 20's, hummer portals, 3010lbs, 106"WB, 84" wide with 21-24 of ground clearance, with 10" of wheeltravel using 12" sway away coilovers....the pictures look interesting and its a 2 seater.....inline...
Slagburn
07-27-2002, 02:28 PM
it is built out of all straight tube, miter cut and rewelded. No bends anywhere that I could see.
I also thought he said it was heavier? Not much flex, but it was gettin the job done.
DRM
07-27-2002, 02:48 PM
I guess everybody got their issue about the same time? :p Mine came this morning ;)

I like the IFS/IRS.... Would loveto have a 4 seater version of it, would work well around here I think...
AIRZUKI
07-27-2002, 04:33 PM
Pat had the rig at TTC this year, defininatly an interesting concept (Hmmm .... staring harder at my own collection of HMMWV portals.....;) ;) )
and it 'wheels great ( from what I saw , even with almost no downtravel in the suspension)....... He was still working out some of the bugs at TTC
ie: very leaky front diff and a bent steering ram in the rear, that and he had no covers on anything! ( the front driveshaft was whipping right by the drivers leg/feet/dangling shoelaces....:eek: )
mountain bronco
07-27-2002, 05:01 PM
First off Pat and his family are extremely nice,

Second he is a tinkerer... I think everything of his is a work in progress... So it changes from event to event.
Cheepin
07-27-2002, 05:58 PM
He had it at the Kremmling event.Not one bent tube.All mitered and welded.It does pretty good from what I saw.Love the clearance.He did break a CV though.I didn't get any pics but my friend may have.Will have to wait and see.
rockmutt
07-27-2002, 07:20 PM
whats the skoop on the ATLAS 3?, never heard of it, what makes it better
:confused:
The Rockslut
07-27-2002, 07:44 PM
Originally posted by peeJ
whats the skoop on the ATLAS 3?, never heard of it, what makes it better
:confused:

Same thing as an Atlas II but with 32 spline front out put to matcht he rear out put.
JR
07-27-2002, 08:54 PM
I drove Pat's rig at ttc and was really impressed. It's like straddling a cow with the motor right between your legs.
It felt very smoth and light and seemed to take on terrain effortlessly. Sence there is almost no down travel, tires are always lifting, but it keeps going.
It's a buggy and it looks like a buggy. Nothing else.
mountain bronco
07-27-2002, 09:10 PM
The cow analogy works..

Daniel, picture a Honda odessy at about 125% size with a 5.0, C4 and an atlas...oh and don't forget the hummer IFS....
Weasel
07-27-2002, 10:01 PM
Randy said everyone is going to be build these. Campbell's (sp?) already have one, Currie is working on one, Walker too.
Cheepin
07-28-2002, 10:07 AM
Looks uncomfortable.Pat looks like he is giving birth in it.:D
jstarnes
07-28-2002, 10:19 AM
http://www.randyellisdesign.com/REDRACERPICS/INDEX.htm
PJTPW
07-29-2002, 08:18 AM
http://www.rivercityrockcrawlers.com/TrailReports/TTC2002/thumbs.html

There are some pics of it here.

Ryan
Rock Toy
07-29-2002, 01:42 PM
http://www.rivercityrockcrawlers.com/TrailReports/TTC2002/TTC_184.jpg

http://www.rivercityrockcrawlers.com/TrailReports/TTC2002/TTC_183.jpg

http://www.rivercityrockcrawlers.com/TrailReports/TTC2002/TTC_182.jpg
Tankota
07-29-2002, 01:45 PM
7th row from the bottom...middle three pics.

Come on...they are only the 182nd-184th pictures:p
morpheus
07-29-2002, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by jstarnes
http://www.randyellisdesign.com/REDRACERPICS/INDEX.htm

Old news ...
injectedEB
07-29-2002, 03:32 PM
I think I'll have to wait and see how these IFS/IRS rigs do as they get the bugs worked out. Pat is a great tinkerer, so if it can be done, he'll find a way - but from what I saw in Kremmling, I'm not too impressed with the IFS/IRS set-up. It would make a lot of the trails a nice ride, but for the big boulders, it just seems to not be able to do it. The only plus I see is the flat bottom, that is a very nice plus!
Weasel
07-29-2002, 10:57 PM
Sweet...I love the tandam seating. One of those would be cool to use to blast around my buddy's game ranch, gravel roads, etc.
wngrog
07-30-2002, 06:13 AM
How strong are the CV's on these IFS setups?

Is it Hummer stuff? That stuff should be stout on something 1/4 the weight of what it was designed for.
McSoo
07-30-2002, 08:28 AM
Why are Hummer shafts so small? There were two in the bays yesterday at work, and I was checkin them out... I couldn't get over how small they were!
redruM
07-30-2002, 10:05 AM
they are small because 1/2 of the gear reduction is at the hub... the diff is only like 2.43-1 the additional is at the hub (on the other side of the shaft