Need help decideing which tranny to put between a late model small block ford efi motor and a 203/205 doubler setup.
Straight off road truck.
Any suggestions?

SEARCH or GTFO


or both

Searched ford section and transmission in the title. Didn't find specific answer.
Any suggestions other than 1st guys smart ass comment?

T400 or C6

Any suggestions other than 1st guys smart ass comment?

learn how to use the search function

I did it and found info...

Truck 4 speed. Np435 or a T-18

Automatics were invented fer wimmens:flipoff2:

oh come on,three pedals and two feet....doesnt take much to figure that one out..... what kind of wheel base you got to work with? c4or c6 would be my suggestion....i used to have a 4 spd in my supercharged gt 40 5.0 tj....one of the best changes i made was swapping out the t18 from the initial build and going with a c6

Well then maybe you need to go see your family doctor about some supplemental testosterone treatment options???:flipoff2:

Seriously though, My next rig will be a C-6, but not because of the third pedal- The pedal becomes natural, and you dont have to think about it after you have driven one for a while. My future issue will be with the addition of rear steer control, turning brakes and twin sticks- too much for the right hand to do.

I take it you have no useful knowledge or experience on the subject so you have to be a smart ass also.

Thanks for the opinions from those who gave their opinion.
As far as anyone else.....well your opinions probably smell like ass anyway.

oh Come On,three Pedals And Two Feet....doesnt Take Much To Figure That One Out..... What Kind Of Wheel Base You Got To Work With? C4or C6 Would Be My Suggestion....i Used To Have A 4 Spd In My Supercharged Gt 40 5.0 Tj....one Of The Best Changes I Made Was Swapping Out The T18 From The Initial Build And Going With A C6


115-118"

115-118"

Well we were being nice, but seeings you must be a newb cockholster.

Go fuck a rusty blender full of thermite , while simotaniously finger banging your your boyfriend in his stink hole you poor excuse for a dink wrinkle.

I hope your mother gets gang raped and gives your father the VD so neither on of them can ever reproduce a poor excuse for an abortion such as yourself again.

I take it you have no useful knowledge or experience on the subject so you have to be a smart ass also.

??This for me??

I could give an explanation having to do with needing more information about what kind of wheeling you do, vehicle specs, etc, etc, but what it really boils down to is what you prefer, auto or stick?? then we could further discuss it from there.

I have always ran the NP-435 but i am now going auto, much easier to finesse in the rocks. If you are crawling with it then C-6 is the way i would go. The C-6 has a larger input shaft and a stronger bell housing than the C-4 and is more common to find.

Well we were being nice, but seeings you must be a newb cockholster.

Go fuck a rusty blender full of thermite , while simotaniously finger banging your your boyfriend in his stink hole you poor excuse for a dink wrinkle.

I hope your mother gets gang raped and gives your father the VD so neither on of them can ever reproduce a poor excuse for an abortion such as yourself again.

:shaking:

Base, sub human reaction from a little man. Someone steal your milk money again.......make you feel like a punk? The guy asked a good question don't be a fool. You would not know thermite from C4 so please save us from having to read your ugly attempts at making yourself feel important. 2,727 posts....and still a bad attitude.... you need to do more than hang out in front of the computer in your mothers basement.

Getting back to the question. I like the C6 with lower gear sets. Go to C6-C4.com, part #9xx and check it out.

X's 2... why has this board been dominated by punks sitting in their underwear in mommie's basement on their MAC's eating doritos having nothing else to do but put people down!? :shaking:

if you have nothing constructive to say..........dont post! and if you cant spell a word...why use it! it only shows your lack of edjucashun(misspelled on purpose)! :shaking:

as a serious answer, i started my bronco project with a built c4/c5 combo and have stepped up to a NP 435 now, i have not had a chance to wheel the manual yet but, from my experience drving other rigs, i do prefer a manual trans on the trail since they have less to go wrong....

Full manual C6. Plenty of control over gear selection, without the extra clutch work.

Also check out Jackson Performance transmissions.

I take it you have no useful knowledge or experience on the subject so you have to be a smart ass also.

actualy I already knew the options but for shits and giggles I did the search and found the answer in the first seach.

I was trying to point you in the right direction by telling you to search the subject. you learn more when you find it yourself by reading and finding out problems with application and shortfalls of the different options.

but since I am a smart ass have fun here. your first topic/post was a winner I can't wait to see your second topic.

??This for me??

I could give an explanation having to do with needing more information about what kind of wheeling you do, vehicle specs, etc, etc, but what it really boils down to is what you prefer, auto or stick?? then we could further discuss it from there.

No! Absoulutly not.
That was for the douches with nothing better to do. And that have no useful info.

Building 115 - 118" WB, 39"-40" tires.
Prefer auto.
Looking for efi302 ford in frame of exploder or f-150 as a base. Was just curios what tranny might come with anything late model there and if any tranny would be ones to stay away from or prefer.

:shaking:

Base, sub human reaction from a little man. Someone steal your milk money again.......make you feel like a punk? The guy asked a good question don't be a fool. You would not know thermite from C4 so please save us from having to read your ugly attempts at making yourself feel important. 2,727 posts....and still a bad attitude.... you need to do more than hang out in front of the computer in your mothers basement.

Getting back to the question. I like the C6 with lower gear sets. Go to C6-C4.com, part #9xx and check it out.

Okay kiddy diddler. Haven't lived with my parents since 18 YO. Live with my girlfriend, dog, cat and 2 trucks I built from scratch (just parted the 3rd one out). But thanks for ASSuming.

X's 2... why has this board been dominated by punks sitting in their underwear in mommie's basement on their MAC's eating doritos having nothing else to do but put people down!? :shaking:

if you have nothing constructive to say..........dont post! and if you cant spell a word...why use it! it only shows your lack of edjucashun(misspelled on purpose)! :shaking:

as a serious answer, i started my bronco project with a built c4/c5 combo and have stepped up to a NP 435 now, i have not had a chance to wheel the manual yet but, from my experience drving other rigs, i do prefer a manual trans on the trail since they have less to go wrong....

You and your newb awesomeness make me cringe.

The HS/Collage kids are out for the summer eh? We're gonna have another ass load of know nothing newbs again aren't we?

PM Pro, he handles all of the transmission questions.

actualy I already knew the options but for shits and giggles I did the search and found the answer in the first seach.

I was trying to point you in the right direction by telling you to search the subject. you learn more when you find it yourself by reading and finding out problems with application and shortfalls of the different options.

but since I am a smart ass have fun here. your first topic/post was a winner I can't wait to see your second topic.

Well ain't you the bomb.
Looks as if you still have no useful info in that tiny little head.

Well ain't you the bomb.
Looks as if you still have no useful info in that tiny little head.

You're missing the point dick lick. This is for hardcore ford tech. Not newb uneducated bullshit talk.

it took you a full page to state you want an auto.


moron.



if you had started with that crucial piece of info much of this could have been avoided.
lets see,
you like autos...
off road only, so no use for OD....
yeah definitely needs a modern, expensive, computer controlled, OD trans....

why did you start this thread again?

Well ain't you the bomb.
Looks as if you still have no useful info in that tiny little head.

realy? feel better?

since I did search, and do know the options I have more in my tiny little head then you do...

I wasn't realy trying to be too much of a smart ass at first. I was tring to point out that the info is here and you are waisting peoples time by not doing a little more to help your self. if you look at your original topic you posted no info to get an educated answer. don't blame us for a stupid question...

it took you a full page to state you want an auto.


moron.



if you had started with that crucial piece of info much of this could have been avoided.
lets see,
you like autos...
off road only, so no use for OD....
yeah definitely needs a modern, expensive, computer controlled, OD trans....

why did you start this thread again?
He needed attention.

realy? feel better?

since I did search, and do know the options I have more in my tiny little head then you do...

I wasn't realy trying to be too much of a smart ass at first. I was tring to point out that the info is here and you are waisting peoples time by not doing a little more to help your self. if you look at your original topic you posted no info to get an educated answer. don't blame us for a stupid question...

Some had no problem witht he initial question. They just answered without the jerkoff comments. And yet again you still want put your opinion on here as far as the question goes.

Some had no problem witht he initial question. They just answered without the jerkoff comments. And yet again you still want put your opinion on here as far as the question goes.

How about you put some info in the first post you dumb cunt.

Motor, auto or stick, rig wieght, tire size etc? Without that any answer you go is still pretty useless.

You've knocked it down to 2 tranny's. Is it THAT hard to search and pick one now?

realy? feel better?

since I did search, and do know the options I have more in my tiny little head then you do...

I wasn't realy trying to be too much of a smart ass at first. I was tring to point out that the info is here and you are waisting peoples time by not doing a little more to help your self. if you look at your original topic you posted no info to get an educated answer. don't blame us for a stupid question...

Seems as if you have waisted so much of your valuable time on my stupid question. Why dont you move on?
I'm suprised with your valuable time you even have time to be here flaming what you think is stupid.
If we had been on a phone converstation you would probably not act the way you do on here. Yet i am not sure.

so basically


stupid question asked / not searching = newb
therefore

newb / people not giving a shit = your thread

your name x naa115630 = retarded.

and the conclusion

naa115630 = your thread = retarded


:)

If its Ford, then its C6 all the way.

If its Ford, then its C6 all the way.

Behind a 302? Yeah right.

Okay kiddy diddler. Haven't lived with my parents since 18 YO. Live with my girlfriend, dog, cat and 2 trucks I built from scratch (just parted the 3rd one out). But thanks for ASSuming.



You and your newb awesomeness make me cringe.

The HS/Collage kids are out for the summer eh? We're gonna have another ass load of know nothing newbs again aren't we?

PM Pro, he handles all of the transmission questions.

:laughing:

You live with your girlfriend's parents! thats even worse. Why are you not out driving your show truck little man, leave this thread to folks who care. I'm sure you have better things to do like polishing the crome coil springs on your TTB D44.

If you think this is a waste of time why are you coming back? It's time to man up junior and stop acting like a punk.

:laughing:

You live with your girlfriend's parents! thats even worse. Why are you not out driving your show truck little man, leave this thread to folks who care. I'm sure you have better things to do like polishing the crome coil springs on your TTB D44.

If you think this is a waste of time why are you coming back? It's time to man up junior and stop acting like a punk.

You really suck at this....ya know that?

I'd be willing to bet my show truck is built with better parts than your trail rig. :laughing:

Some had no problem witht he initial question. They just answered without the jerkoff comments. And yet again you still want put your opinion on here as far as the question goes.

Seems as if you have waisted so much of your valuable time on my stupid question. Why dont you move on?
I'm suprised with your valuable time you even have time to be here flaming what you think is stupid.
If we had been on a phone converstation you would probably not act the way you do on here. Yet i am not sure.

wow so you need to learn how to use the search and the edit button?

look man, this is real simple. I am not going to answer your question now. you are an ass. I was trying to point you in the right direction by telling you to search the past threads for info.

and just so you know I don't give ass holes my phone number...

You really suck at this....ya know that?

I'd be willing to bet my show truck is built with better parts than your trail rig. :laughing:

Post your pics little man, we are all waiting.

This thread = :rainbow:

You could have found everything you wanted to know by searching.


The other newbies could have stayed quiet and not ruined the "search" lesson, but instead had to surface with their douchebaggery.

SBF C6s are hard to find in my experience. EFI 302 can run an C4, FMX, AOD, AOD-E, E4OD, 4R70W, in very rare cases a C6. With adapters you can run a 700R4, 4L80E, 4L60E, TH350, TH400, and Powerglide.

You could have searched and found all of that, then not posted a stupid question.

Post your pics little man, we are all waiting.

You guys really dont know how to search do you :laughing:

All 2 of you newbs?? Thats awesome.

Go fuck a rusty blender full of thermite , while simotaniously finger banging your your boyfriend in his stink hole you poor excuse for a dink wrinkle.


:laughing:

Bravo. I don't mind noobs, but noobs who ask dumb ass questions and THEN get all pissy need more of the above.

Oh yea, and I saw the "pm Pro" you cockgargler :flipoff2:

Off road only, you have two real options for an auto. C-6 and C-4. Nothing really wrong with the C-4, but I would option for the C-6 even though is more parasitic on your power- worth it for the extra beef.

I don't get it why people think a small block pattern C-6 is hard to find?? maybe its a regional thing?? Used extensively in Ford vans- just swap in the 4x4 output shaft from a big block tranny. 1980-at least 89 used a lot of C-6's (around here anyway)

:D:D:D:D i love it! the "old pros" who have better things to do than reply to "stupid newb" questions have ALREADY spent more time on this thread than they would have liked to....BUT THEY CANT STOP!!!:laughing:

You're missing the point dick lick. This is for hardcore ford tech. Not newb uneducated bullshit talk.

actually i fail to see the "hardcore" in the heading for this board. i believe it says "tech talk", "ford". nothing about hardcore??? is there alot of "hardcore" wheelin' in vermont? or is it mostly mall crusin' for chicks? show me your definition of hardcore since you are the resident hardcore tech pro. astound me! be the ball! do it! since i am a newb in your opinion.

show me your definition of hardcore since you are the resident hardcore tech pro. astound me! be the ball! do it! since i am a newb in your opinion.

The fact that you think 94stepsideford is "the resident hardcore tech pro" proves that you are, in fact, a DAN.

Although I think he has reached full journeyman Minion status with his good showing in this thread :D

Anyways, since this is turning into a DAN fest, please refer to:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=675729

And

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=43

actually i fail to see the "hardcore" in the heading for this board. i believe it says "tech talk", "ford". nothing about hardcore??? is there alot of "hardcore" wheelin' in vermont? or is it mostly mall crusin' for chicks? show me your definition of hardcore since you are the resident hardcore tech pro. astound me! be the ball! do it! since i am a newb in your opinion.

Have you seen our curbs? They are angry. I had one take out a front diff cover....no shit.

The fact that you think 94stepsideford is "the resident hardcore tech pro" proves that you are, in fact, a DAN.

Although I think he has reached full journeyman Minion status with his good showing in this thread :D

Anyways, since this is turning into a DAN fest, please refer to:

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=675729

And

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=43

That is where the funny is at. I never said I was hardcore. I simply said he was a dumbass newb.

That is where the funny is at.

Oh, I fully agree :flipoff2:

:laughing:

For fuck sakes!!! Let's just agree that he's a douchebag that can't figure out how to shift a 4 speed and doesn't want to admit it. He finally finds a way around admitting this by concluding he really wants an auto, but doesn't know what the different types of transmissions are, so we're gonna keep this thread alive in hopes we learn a name or two of different style of transmissions- all in hopes he can impress all the big boys on Yahoo!:shaking:


Have you seen our curbs? They are angry. I had one take out a front diff cover....no shit

Next, let us get it straight that curbs are some serious shit that we all need to take into account in our wheeling- I personally have reinforced my front axle and diff cover just for this dangerous obstacle in life. So quit making fun of people like me, I have feelings ya know..


PM Pro, he handles all of the transmission questions.


This may be the most serious post that needs addressed in this entire fecal abortion for a thread. First, Pro can't remember shit without the help of Sanchez.

Second, as we've seen, he's also showed some serious restraint within this thread, and for that we must applaud him.

What he really wants to say is, and I quote, -"Okay. Listen closely oh epic cockholster for a Newb. We've all built our own shit, now grow some nuts and do the same. While I realize this is going to be next to impossible for you since you can't even work a simple computer search function- let alone a fucking monkey wrench- at leas tmake an attempt. With all that is holy and just in this world, hopefully you'll burn you're retinas while attemping to weld a 2.99 JC Whitney chrome tow hook onto your stock bumper. (Remember, look for the naked lady in the pretty blue light.) Then, while your vision is blurry and you're still on a mental high from the top notch welding job you just performed- you decide to solidify yourself as a complete and whole Master Fhappricator. So you grab your trusty torch to carve your insignia into the rear bumper. As you begin to make the first cut, your eye's tear up from all the emotion and you ignite your blue tarp shop into a burning mass of goo and you perish in the flames. Thus saving us all from fuckstick posts and whiny-ball-bag replies like this you may have in the future."



Thank you. I'm here all week.:flipoff2:

stepside...i apologize, i nearly ruptured a kidney, laughing at the "curb" comment!

PRO...what can i say, HOW COULD YOU LET FORDRACEBOY DO THAT BEFRE YOU!

AND FORDRACEBOY WINS!!!! ive bought tickets for thursday and friday's shows! :laughing:

PRO...what can i say, HOW COULD YOU LET FORDRACEBOY DO THAT BEFRE YOU!

I'm trying to take a step back now and then and encourage our other members to spread their wings :D

Besides, Fordraceboy is an actual friend of mine; so I've been trying to encourage him to fit right in. He needs the self-esteem booster to compensate for the hideous deformities he was unfortunately born with. Still, I'd say he's doing a pretty damn good job, despite having to type with those webbed fingers .

I'm just glad this trainwreck of a DANfest has at least served a purpose and brought the funnay :laughing:

Behind a 302? Yeah right.

That is what I am running. 92 5.0 out of a Mustang GT and a C6 out of an 85 full size Bronco.

http://gprime.net/flash.php/postingandyou

great advice... This should be required viewing prior to being allowed to post

That is what I am running. 92 5.0 out of a Mustang GT and a C6 out of an 85 full size Bronco.

And your 200hp motor is probaly only turning 100 at the wheels. For a mild 302 I would run a built c-4.

But thats just me,
The mawl wheeler.

http://gprime.net/flash.php/postingandyou

great advice... This should be required viewing prior to being allowed to post

Well done Mr Waternut, you don't have to chew someone up and spit them out to make a point. Good to see. :)

Well done Mr Waternut, you don't have to chew someone up and spit them out to make a point. Good to see. :)

It makes it much more interesting though.


Fucking new kinder, gentler PBB.:shaking:

That is what I am running. 92 5.0 out of a Mustang GT and a C6 out of an 85 full size Bronco.

Thanks man!
That was the intelligent comment I was looking for.

And your 200hp motor is probaly only turning 100 at the wheels. For a mild 302 I would run a built c-4.

But thats just me,
The mawl wheeler.



HOLY FUCKING SHIT!






You almost posted some tech:eek:
WTFs wrong with you?? You should really be careful. You might actually contribute to the vast information on this board instead of wasting bandwidth with your self appointed thread cop.



edit: BTW I also run a 5.0l and C6. It's a little slow but it works. It certainly isn't going to break while wheeling. Oh, but wait.....you wouldn't know about that since you spend all you time on this board attempting to clean it up with your useless drivel.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!






You almost posted some tech:eek:
WTFs wrong with you?? You should really be careful. You might actually contribute to the vast information on this board instead of wasting bandwidth with your self appointed thread cop.



edit: BTW I also run a 5.0l and C6. It's a little slow but it works. It certainly isn't going to break while wheeling. Oh, but wait.....you wouldn't know about that since you spend all you time on this board attempting to clean it up with your useless drivel.

A well built c-4 isn't going to break either numb nuts. Not unless you do something really, really stupid.

If being a "self appointed thread cop" keeps this place clean of the "how much lift for 33's" threads. Then it's a job well done.

Seeings you are the all knowing, I take it you did the roller mod to your c-6?

It makes it much more interesting though.


Fucking new kinder, gentler PBB.:shaking:

What makes this place intresting is 4x4 talk, NOT the ridicule you so easly fall into. You act like the monkeys at the San Diego zoo throwing shit at all the people walking by. Do not mistake kindness as weakness, your only showing your true colors by acting like a zoo monkey from the protection of your computer room in VT.

...and as far as kinder and gentler, hehe, controlled violence is in my job discription.

And your 200hp motor is probaly only turning 100 at the wheels. For a mild 302 I would run a built c-4.

But thats just me,
The mawl wheeler.

im sure he appreciates your attempt at a reality check but...the parasitic losses from a c-6 are approx. 38 percent v.s.a c-4 of 24 percent. and a properly built c-4 (as i had) will withstand all the power a small block (even a stoker) can dish out. not close to the 50 percent you stated, and the HP rating of the 5.0 would depent on which year he has...it can vary from 205-260 (including a cobra 5.0) in stock form. if you are gonna flame, bash, help, or whatever you call it...it would help if you would make an attempt at being accurate!

HOLY FUCKING SHIT!






You almost posted some tech:eek:
WTFs wrong with you?? You should really be careful. You might actually contribute to the vast information on this board instead of wasting bandwidth with your self appointed thread cop.



edit: BTW I also run a 5.0l and C6. It's a little slow but it works. It certainly isn't going to break while wheeling. Oh, but wait.....you wouldn't know about that since you spend all you time on this board attempting to clean it up with your useless drivel.

:laughing::laughing::laughing::laughing:

A well built c-4 isn't going to break either numb nuts. Not unless you do something really, really stupid.

um..they do break. regardless of doing what you refer to as 'stupid shit'. Isn't that the point of this board? You know....being an 'extreme rock crawling board and all..... I don't see where 'mud bogging' is part of this board.



If being a "self appointed thread cop" keeps this place clean of the "how much lift for 33's" threads. Then it's a job well done.

Again.....I don't see the word MODERATOR under your user profile. When you have an extreme rock crawler then feel free to flame. Until then, STFU with your useless shit. You never, ever have anything useful to contribute so why are you here other than to make yourself feel better.



Seeings you are the all knowing, I take it you did the roller mod to your c-6?

you would be correct. full roller, wide ratio, 5 disc forward and direct clutch packs, A/C FMRP VB, billet input shaft, E code intermediate lever and R code servo, ect..... I built it myself.

please dismiss yourself from this place and come back once you can actually sound intelligent when posting, instead of the typical 'go fuck a blender, ect' post, which we have all come to expect from you.

have a nice day.

You're missing the point dick lick. This is for hardcore ford tech. Not newb uneducated bullshit talk.



this needs to be saved before 94POSford decides to backpedal.



Clearly you are here just to flame others. Here YOU are attempting to call someone, knowing full well this is a hard core board, and yet you have nothing to say other than these choice words of bullshit talk.


WHY ARE YOU HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are the rocks in Vermont?? What do you wheel?

um..they do break. regardless of doing what you refer to as 'stupid shit'. Isn't that the point of this board? You know....being an 'extreme rock crawling board and all..... I don't see where 'mud bogging' is part of this board.
I dont see extreme rock crawling either. Please point me in the direction of where it says so. Because last I knew, we had the pre-runner forum, the jk forum and even the Hummer forum.



Again.....I don't see the word MODERATOR under your user profile. When you have an extreme rock crawler then feel free to flame. Until then, STFU with your useless shit. You never, ever have anything useful to contribute so why are you here other than to make yourself feel better.[quote]
Nor do I under yours. I guess you should follow your own info huh?


[quote]
you would be correct. full roller, wide ratio, 5 disc forward and direct clutch packs, A/C FMRP VB, billet input shaft, E code intermediate lever and R code servo, ect..... I built it myself.
I really am proud of you.

please dismiss yourself from this place and come back once you can actually sound intelligent when posting, instead of the typical 'go fuck a blender, ect' post, which we have all come to expect from you.

have a nice day.


When you are the owner/admin of this board you can tell me what to do. Until then you are just another pile of shit spouting off useless drivel. The same as me.

The OP definitely wants to get an A4LD auto.. toughest trans Ford ever made.

:black laughing: God I hope he's dumb enough to buy that...

The same as me.

:laughing:

not even close dude....not even close. You couldn't fab your way out of wet paper bag.

:black laughing: God I hope he's dumb enough to buy that...



:laughing:

:laughing:

not even close dude....not even close. You couldn't fab your way out of wet paper bag.

and when I fart cum doesn't come out of my ass.


You're right...I guess we're not alike.

and when I fart cum doesn't come out of my ass.


Where the heck did that come from?

You Sir are a TROLL, why are you here mucking up the water? The 4x4 community doesnt need more of that talk. You are only giving the Serria Club a reason to think all of us are a bunch of animals.


I have to second the request that you excuse yourself from this board untill you have a better understanding of human relationship and interaction. Come back when you are ready to learn Jr.

Where the heck did that come from?

You Sir are a TROLL, why are you here mucking up the water? The 4x4 community doesnt need more of that talk. You are only giving the Serria Club a reason to think all of us are a bunch of animals.


I have to second the request that you excuse yourself from this board untill you have a better understanding of human relationship and interaction. Come back when you are ready to learn Jr.

:laughing:

[QUOTE=rock-rod;8576964]
full roller, wide ratio, 5 disc forward and direct clutch packs, A/C FMRP VB, billet input shaft, E code intermediate lever and R code servo, ect..... I built it myself.[QUOTE]

Oh man you just perked my ears right up! I want to learn more about your mods.

:laughing:


your 2,764th post.

Good job.

WHY ARE YOU HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are the rocks in Vermont?? What do you wheel?[/QUOTE]


x's 2...ive been trying to figure this out myself!

i guess we will never know... i would love to see some pics of the 94POSford!

so guys saying to run a c4...what is the output shaft size in the lil trans? thought it was an oddball 28spline.
sounds like using the c4 will make transfer case choices a PITA
is there any reason to use a c4 instead of a c6?

so guys saying to run a c4...what is the output shaft size in the lil trans? thought it was an oddball 28spline.
sounds like using the c4 will make transfer case choices a PITA
is there any reason to use a c4 instead of a c6?

1. weight
2. parasitic losses
3. LOTS of t-case options! ATLAS, dana 20, np205, (dodge)np203/dana 20 doubler, bw 1350 series (not preferred, but an option), ect.
4. overall length
5. interchangable bellhousing, may never be an issue but, built right this trans WILL live behind a big block!

i guess we will never know... i would love to see some pics of the 94POSford!

First off. If your going to try to talk shit atleast know how to quote correctly. If not multi-quote too.

So I did some research and found your hot rod....

http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/show_image.pl?bg=FFFFFF&image=http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/4/web/1804000-1804999/1804091_84_full.jpg

AWSOME. So if I have a rig that runs, drives and isn't 15' tall I have you beat? No problem.

I have yet to finad any pics of the other newbs rig, but his sounds a bit more promising.

As for pics of any of my rigs (the 94 which is now a MC, the 88, or the 78 i had) all you have to do is search. But I know newbs don't do that.

:laughing: i know it was important to you to see mine so you could say whatever you wanted, but believe me your rig ... er whatever it is, is not important enough for me to "search"...i care that much! besides as many posts as you have i can see you dont get out much. why dont you come south for some action?! not mall ation, but trails. not to worry your little mind, mine will be done soon enough, and it is just a tick UNDER 15'. :laughing:

oh, and the pic you saw fit to post is about 6 months old. it doesnt look like that anymore.

i guess we will never know... i would love to see some pics of the 94POSford!\

This thread is a DANfest of an epic magnitude :shaking:

:laughing: i know it was important to you to see mine so you could say whatever you wanted, but believe me your rig ... er whatever it is, is not important enough for me to "search"...i care that much! besides as many posts as you have i can see you dont get out much. why dont you come south for some action?! not mall ation, but trails. not to worry your little mind, mine will be done soon enough, and it is just a tick UNDER 15'. :laughing:

oh, and the pic you saw fit to post is about 6 months old. it doesnt look like that anymore.

Nice job STILL not multi-quoting to try to remove your newb status. It's still not working.

and when I fart cum doesn't come out of my ass.


You're right...I guess we're not alike.

no...it comes out of your mouth when you belch:p



difference is.....I wheel, you don't.

no...it comes out of your mouth when you belch:p



difference is.....I wheel, you don't.

Who said that???




oh yes you, the god of wheeling. :shaking:

so guys saying to run a c4...what is the output shaft size in the lil trans? thought it was an oddball 28spline.
sounds like using the c4 will make transfer case choices a PITA
is there any reason to use a c4 instead of a c6?

i never could come up with a reason to run a C4. I know they work and they are efficient at transferring power but unless you want to run a t-case other than a bronce D20....then it's big money for an adapter. The C6 is porky and has high rotational mass, but if it can survive monster truck racing (ala big foot) it should be up to what we do. Besides, I have big plans for a new motor. I chose the C6 to grow into. It kinda sucks with the 5.0l but when the 408w goes in this spring, then things will get better. The C6 has a 31spline output stock and it's five minutes with a die grinder to trim the shaft a little to mate it up to an Atlas. No adapters, no fancy stuff.

Who said that???




oh yes you, the god of wheeling. :shaking:

never said I was a 'god'... i just actually lock the hubs and hit the rocks.....you?

i never could come up with a reason to run a C4. I know they work and they are efficient at transferring power but unless you want to run a t-case other than a bronce D20....then it's big money for an adapter. The C6 is porky and has high rotational mass, but if it can survive monster truck racing (ala big foot) it should be up to what we do. Besides, I have big plans for a new motor. I chose the C6 to grow into. It kinda sucks with the 5.0l but when the 408w goes in this spring, then things will get better. The C6 has a 31spline output stock and it's five minutes with a die grinder to trim the shaft a little to mate it up to an Atlas. No adapters, no fancy stuff.

Agreed, but with someone who only plans on running a stock-mild 302 it should more than suffice. Although I think mike potts is smoking pot if he thinks one will hold up to a BB in the rocks.

never said I was a 'god'... i just actually lock the hubs and hit the rocks.....you?
Even with only a dd now as a wheeling rig I still try to hit the trails as often as I can. Not really alot of rock around here but more of a mountains/ledge/ mud deal. If we had rocks here. Fuck yeah I'd try em.

Unfortunantly my 460 decided to blow on me and the c-6 had a cracked bellhousing. The only parts left that were worth anything on the truck were sold off so I can start building a new rig. But being young and trying not to live off mommy and daddy makes that abit of a challange.

3. LOTS of t-case options! ATLAS, dana 20, np205, (dodge)np203/dana 20 doubler, bw 1350 series (not preferred, but an option), ect.


other then the d20 and other junk on your list, are any of those available in the 28 spline c4 output?
i doubt it. so you have to spend a paycheque on goofy adapter shafts. no thanks.
looks like c6 is the only choice

hey man! i live in the south! we got the good stuff! :D

in all seriousness, i applaud your last post! if nothing else, for trying to NOT live off your parents...this is rare nowadays, i did not mean for this to escallate to the level it has, it completely distracts from the meaning of the post, weather or not we feel it is a post worthy of being here. there are ALOT of immature people on this site who live to flame, even when it is not deserved. so i have started pulling the guns right away. thank you for bearing all, in that one post i gained a great deal of respect for you. and...if you think building a rig as a single man is tough...try doing it with a wife, 2 kids and the responsibilities which come with them.

other then the d20 and other junk on your list, are any of those available in the 28 spline c4 output?
i doubt it. so you have to spend a paycheque on goofy adapter shafts. no thanks.
looks like c6 is the only choice

well, i maybe the stupid old man but i think wild horses has the adapter kit to mate the dodge 203 to the c-4 (28 spline), and for the bw1350 an output shaft and ext. housing from a BII c-5 can be fitted to the c-4 (for the budget builder). so, again, the dodge 203 (which can be mated to the 205 or dana 20), the bw1354 man., and dana 20 are all viable options. you call these junk, but dont want to spend a paycheck..........you either spend money, or use what you can afford, right? i might be wrong about these, if so, show me... i will admit it.

and yes i can quote. :)

.....But being young and trying not to live off mommy and daddy makes that abit of a challange.

more power to you. i respect anyone who can sever the cord and make it on his/her own.

more power to you. i respect anyone who can sever the cord and make it on his/her own.

I see a jeep in your avatar. What exactly is your dog in this fight just out of curiousity?

Because right now I'm guessing a buddy got butthurt and summoned you to his defense.

i never could come up with a reason to run a C4. I know they work and they are efficient at transferring power but unless you want to run a t-case other than a bronce D20....then it's big money for an adapter. The C6 is porky and has high rotational mass, but if it can survive monster truck racing (ala big foot) it should be up to what we do. Besides, I have big plans for a new motor. I chose the C6 to grow into. It kinda sucks with the 5.0l but when the 408w goes in this spring, then things will get better. The C6 has a 31spline output stock and it's five minutes with a die grinder to trim the shaft a little to mate it up to an Atlas. No adapters, no fancy stuff.

After living with and pouring $$$ into a c-4 I have to agree with this, if I go back to an auto than it will be a c-6, even with my mostly stock 5.0 motor. My experience with the c-4 has been good and bad, when my c-4 was working good it was sweet, the problem I had was keeping it working for any length of time, IIRC I went though 2 converters and had it rebuilt 2 or 3 times in 10k miles, this was by to differant builders, one of which is a nationally known "guru". The c-6 has it's downsides but I would rather deal with them than deal with a c-4. This thread is so full of shit that I don't even remember what the OP had for a rig, if its a full size then I don't know how anybody can even think about a c-4, a c-6 is the only trans I would consider, if it's a early bronco, ranger, or bronco 2 then a c-4 might live, at least for a short time.


Brewchief:D

The c-6 has it's downsides but I would rather deal with them than deal with a c-4.

Well, and to be fair, its main downside is parasitic loss and that can be largely compensated for in the rebuild.

I see a jeep in your avatar. What exactly is your dog in this fight just out of curiousity?

Because right now I'm guessing a buddy got butthurt and summoned you to his defense.

no dog. no one calling me to defend them. Just tired of people who do nothing on this board but flame and not contribute any real tech.

Well, and to be fair, its main downside is parasitic loss and that can be largely compensated for in the rebuild.

what's funny though is a friend of mine with an EB running a checker rebuilt C4. He beats the shit out of that trans and it has never ever given him a single issue. go figure...

what's funny though is a friend of mine with an EB running a checker rebuilt C4. He beats the shit out of that trans and it has never ever given him a single issue. go figure...

Hell, I've got a C4 in one of my EB's. I'm sure as hell not going to say they don't have their place...

I see a jeep in your avatar. What exactly is your dog in this fight just out of curiousity?

Because right now I'm guessing a buddy got butthurt and summoned you to his defense.

I think he runs a lot of ford parts. Other than that, no clue.

The roller mod and a few other things can be done to make the c-6 a very viable option. However if the op can't perform the work himself, it is going to cost just about as much as a built c-4 with and adapter in the end.

The c-6 is a very stout tranny, but a 302 isn't exactly a powerhouse in stock form. Believe me I have 2.

no dog. no one calling me to defend them. Just tired of people who do nothing on this board but flame and not contribute any real tech.

Not to stir up a settle fight, but wheeling vs contributing is a little different fight. If you thin I dont contribute you might want to search again.:p

Brewchief:D


got nothing to add to your post, OTHER than THANKS for keeping the titties and changing the outfit :smokin::smokin::smokin::)

IThe c-6 is a very stout tranny, but a 302 isn't exactly a powerhouse in stock form. Believe me I have 2.

WHAT!?!?

I can totally light up my big ass 28s on my EB with my mighty 302 and the C4 doesn't even blink. 'Course, thats mostly due to my vacuum modulator having taken a steamy dump on my chest :laughing:

WHAT!?!?

I can totally light up my big ass 28s on my EB with my mighty 302 and the C4 doesn't even blink. 'Course, thats mostly due to my vacuum modulator having taken a steamy dump on my chest :laughing:

Mine lights up 39.5's but thats due to a 25:1 gear ratio. :laughing:

My 95 with the ghey auto couldn't light up a wheelbarrow tire in frog shit.:shaking:

got nothing to add to your post, OTHER than THANKS for keeping the titties and changing the outfit :smokin::smokin::smokin::)


Thanks, she didn't know I was using the old pic until I asked for a new one, when I told her how many comments I got on that pic she agreed to a new pic, the best part was watching her try to put that top on while keeping mostly covered up because we were driving down a busy I-96:laughing: I think a few other drivers may have seen more than they expected to see at 10am.

Brewchief:D

all in all, it comes down to what someone wants! c-4, c-6... 4 link, 3 link...auto, manual...long wheel base, short wheel base...everything has a place it dominates the opposite. there is NEVER a perfect rig for every situation, it depends on what it will be use for and how hard it will be used. my point being the c-4 and c-6 both can be awesome trans'. neither one is "better" than the other, they have different purposes.

I think he runs a lot of ford parts. Other than that, no clue.


I do run a ford engine and trans....








can I play:D

Oh hell, this was an interesting thread.

Here are the Cliff Notes, for those who don't want to read the entire thing.

naa115630 is not very good at making his mind up, so he comes and asks a stupid newbie question.

94stepsideford tells him to search.

Half of the members of the board pick sides and throw out various insults (very entertaining)

Everyone hugs and makes up.

naa115630 is still fucking clueless

well, i maybe the stupid old man but i think wild horses has the adapter kit to mate the dodge 203 to the c-4 (28 spline), and for the bw1350 an output shaft and ext. housing from a BII c-5 can be fitted to the c-4 (for the budget builder). so, again, the dodge 203 (which can be mated to the 205 or dana 20), the bw1354 man., and dana 20 are all viable options. you call these junk, but dont want to spend a paycheck..........you either spend money, or use what you can afford, right? i might be wrong about these, if so, show me... i will admit it.

and yes i can quote. :)

dodge is 23 spline, so there will be a goofy adapter spud shaft nightmare in the wild kit, no thanks.
also no thanks to tiny ranger parts
d20- ew, sliding gear design and tiny/fragile
I dont mind spending a paycheque for decent gear, but none of those ideas are decent gear.
and to spend big $$ to use a tiny 28 spline output trans sounds not so SMRT when a c6 is 31 spline and no aftermarket adapters required, though a shorty would be nice.
if the c4 was available as a 31 spline normal ford output it would be on the table

dodge is 23 spline, so there will be a goofy adapter spud shaft nightmare in the wild kit, no thanks.
also no thanks to tiny ranger parts
d20- ew, sliding gear design and tiny/fragile
I dont mind spending a paycheque for decent gear, but none of those ideas are decent gear.
and to spend big $$ to use a tiny 28 spline output trans sounds not so SMRT when a c6 is 31 spline and no aftermarket adapters required, though a shorty would be nice.
if the c4 was available as a 31 spline normal ford output it would be on the table

Then the OP needs a buit more motor than what he has :p

I would think by now that someone would have made a 31 spline tailshaft for the c-4, but they haven't.

I would think by now that someone would have made a 31 spline tailshaft for the c-4, but they haven't.

They have. Its called a C6. :D

They have. Its called a C6. :D

Trew.