: 14 Bolt Disc Brake Help
KIAKillerXJ 08-05-2008, 10:17 AM Alrighty guys,
Putting Ruff Stuff Specialties bracket kit on a 14 bolt, but have a couple questions about alignment. Seems like the disc/hub assembly should be sitting further back on the spindle, but if it does, there is no way the caliper will fit over it. And it doesn't work if you flip the bracket so the offset is the other direction either-- already tried that.
Bracket kit ordered was for a regular SRW- which is what the axle is. WMS is 67" so shouldn't be a C&C. And it was supposed to come out of a truck from what we were told-- so *shouldn't* be a van.
using 75 3/4 ton calipers and rotors
Comments? Suggestions?
Pictures taken from the front of the axle looking back--
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havoc319 08-05-2008, 11:02 AM Is the hub tight? Any signs when you pulled it where the seal was ridding originally??
KIAKillerXJ 08-05-2008, 11:16 AM i can get it seated all the way, but then there is no space for the caliper/pad to fit over the rotor.
Any way to get the bracket to the other side of the flange?Can you cut it in half top to bottom?
KIAKillerXJ 08-05-2008, 11:33 AM i could, but shouldn't have to. And even then, I'm not sure if that would bring everything into alignment.
BRIANHO13 08-05-2008, 12:01 PM The brackets on mine (not ruffstuff) are only offset one thickness of the material of the bracket, those look to be 2-3 times the amount. Looks like the brackets are wrong to me, or they need to be on the other side of the flange.
i could, but shouldn't have to. And even then, I'm not sure if that would bring everything into alignment.
What did ruffstuff tell you when you called them? I agree you shouldn't have to monkey around with it. Looks like the wrong brackets.
KIAKillerXJ 08-05-2008, 12:37 PM The brackets on mine (not ruffstuff) are only offset one thickness of the material of the bracket, those look to be 2-3 times the amount. Looks like the brackets are wrong to me, or they need to be on the other side of the flange.
thats what I think too. I wonder if we got sent ones either for a DRW or C&C.
WATERKNIFE 08-05-2008, 01:27 PM Did you try to put it on the other side of the flange? Is there a notch that will allow it?
I bet that is where it need to go.
KIAKillerXJ 08-05-2008, 02:17 PM Did you try to put it on the other side of the flange? Is there a notch that will allow it?
I bet that is where it need to go.
no notch.
http://www.ruffstuffspecialties.com/catalog/caliper-mounting-bracket-standard-p-10.html
Agreed, they look like they should fit on the other side...Worst case, cut off the bottom half of the "ring" and make them weld-ons??
Gravel Maker 08-05-2008, 03:58 PM Are the caliper pins centered in the caliper? The pins need to be in the middle of the range of motion or they will not fit or "float". I cannot see it from your pics.
The offset is 3/4" or they will not fit.
Do you have the right rotor? Many Ford rotors look nearly identical but are 1/8" larger in diameter and 1/8" different in offset, if they were used please check the ID# on them, they may be Ford.
I just got your email so give me a call and we can likely figure it out quicker.
dumblucky 08-11-2008, 09:48 AM im also thinking the wrong rotors..are they 3/4 ton ?? the application diffrence would be big bearing vs small bearing IIRC
Cush00 08-11-2008, 10:12 AM It is hard to tell from the pic, but do you have the sleeves on the caliper bolt in there? Doesn't look to me like the sleeves are there on the caliper bolt, no caliper movement allowed?
Those look like the exact same brackets I got from ruffstuff and they worked fine. Could be the wrong rotors, but I think something else is wrong.
DeaTh_JeeP 08-11-2008, 11:38 PM I just did the same conversion and i had the same problem, i tried to used different rotos and i couldnt make it work, at the end i had to take the rotor to a machine shop so they can make it smaller, because it was to big, and the the second problem that i had (i bought the brakets for the conversion on e-bay and it looks the same at yours) it was that the calipers didint fit on the right spot, so at the end we had to cut the brakets and make it a little bit back and welded again so it could work, And Finally we got it working.
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good luckk...
dumblucky 08-12-2008, 05:06 AM fabulous I was plannin on doin this soon ..subscribe now....lets ee what GL has to say....perhaps some answers in the gen 4x4 forum
KIAKillerXJ 09-08-2008, 01:58 PM Just wanted to do a quick update on this with the solution,
rotors were the wrong ones
right rotors were off of a 1978 Chevy K20 4x4 3/4ton.
offset was .25" difference than the previous ones, made all the difference in the world, and everything bolted up smoothly.
Gravel Maker 09-15-2008, 06:05 PM The rotors you can use are from a '73-87 3/4 ton front 4x4 Chevy......
riberware 12-02-2008, 07:28 AM What caliper years and from what donor can be used???
WheelingPiazza 12-02-2008, 10:25 AM Basiclly every thing from a '73-87 3/4 ton front 4x4 Chevy... will work Calipers and rotor wise
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