: dumb newbie toy axle question...
ya i searched (DUH! i've been here since early '00) and didn't get quite the answer i wanted...
ok, stock located zuk t-case, with a toy wide track axle pushed back 3/4in (offset drilled perches) with an early toy front driveshaft in the rear, it's sprung over on stock spring's with an extra leaf added to clear 33in bogger's nicely... is teh DL going to bind and possibly break the t-case output??
BTW, this is not for a buggy :flipoff2:
rockzooki 07-30-2002, 11:06 AM dont think itll break the shaft, but youre going to have some mean vibes at speed.
FLEXYSAMMY 07-30-2002, 11:50 AM The only thing I have heard about using the toy axles that are if you gear the t-case the centered rear puts alot of stress on it and guys have been breaking them. Anyone else get this?????
nuttzack 07-30-2002, 11:58 AM never heard that shit before. Dave, honestly, it'll be fine. I am asuming the toy front has a cv on it. I have never even heard of a sammi output breaking, although I know it's certainly possible.
I've got arizona drivelines with a cv on the rear and honestly the compound angle isn't as bad as thought it would be. There is one good solution to this problem though, DUAL TOY CASES:flipoff2:
UZI 9mm 07-30-2002, 12:06 PM Originally posted by DSI
ya i searched (DUH! i've been here since early '00) and didn't get quite the answer i wanted...
ok, stock located zuk t-case, with a toy wide track axle pushed back 3/4in (offset drilled perches) with an early toy front driveshaft in the rear, it's sprung over on stock spring's with an extra leaf added to clear 33in bogger's nicely... is teh DL going to bind and possibly break the t-case output??
BTW, this is not for a buggy :flipoff2:
unless i'm muchly mistaken, this is just about exactly what Fatkid's running, isn't it?
-toy axles, pushed back a *bit* for a little more wheelbase
-33" bogg's
-416's in the transfer case
-529's (i think) in the diff's
-front toy cv driveshaft going to the centered diff
sounds sweet, and i think Fatty even leaves the Mall every once in a while to use his Sammy. so i hear.)
:D
FLEXYSAMMY 07-30-2002, 12:13 PM If you look in here I have a picture of my rear drive shaft (front toy) on to 85 mini truck rear.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70498
0ILBURNER 07-30-2002, 01:17 PM It works even better if you run a high-pinion diff :grinpimp:
MuddMachine 07-30-2002, 01:20 PM Think about it, theres only 2 possible angles.
Slowzuki 07-30-2002, 01:28 PM CV on one end of a shaft with an angle at both ends is bad $hit for street driving. You will fatigue stuff fast. The toy stuff is strong but it is still going to beat on everything.
Ken
Before y'all bitch back about 2 years and its fine, go learn how a u-joint works. CV = smooth speed in smooth speed out. Single carden = smooth speed in, sine wave speed out. Combine the 2 and you don't have 2 u-joint to cancel.
nuttzack 07-30-2002, 02:10 PM WTF makes you think he is talking about street driving?:flipoff2:
Azrckcrawler 07-30-2002, 02:44 PM Originally posted by Slowzuki
CV on one end of a shaft with an angle at both ends is bad $hit for street driving. You will fatigue stuff fast. The toy stuff is strong but it is still going to beat on everything.
Ken
Before y'all bitch back about 2 years and its fine, go learn how a u-joint works. CV = smooth speed in smooth speed out. Single carden = smooth speed in, sine wave speed out. Combine the 2 and you don't have 2 u-joint to cancel.
Crap, that's how it works? Guess I better quit driving my rig :rolleyes: Why is it someone always has to troll this subject every couple of weeks?
DSI: I doubt you'll have enough flex to bind the driveshaft with stock springs. I think It is possible to bind the differential end with YJ's, I suspect I have done it on occasion according to the gouges on the flange (despite the flange being scooped out for u-joint clearance).
fatkid 07-31-2002, 08:51 AM I need to learn about shit like this, at times I think its way over my head.:(
fatkid 07-31-2002, 08:54 AM All the drive shaft GODs over hear need to go tell the Toy guys that a Square Tube front drive shaft will never work too. They need some of this stuff too. Reguardless of them running it or not...:(
UZI 9mm 07-31-2002, 09:02 AM Originally posted by fatkid
All the drive shaft GODs over hear need to go tell the Toy guys that a Square Tube front drive shaft will never work too. They need some of this stuff too. Reguardless of them running it or not...:(
EXACTLY.
in *theory* Bumblebees can't fly, either.
....or was that :bender: ? :D
well we got her all put together tonight, and on 35x12.5's with damned 4:10's i got the pseedo to 52 and it didn't vibrate :D
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