Thats right, you fuckers get to hash it among yourself what my next AR will be :flipoff2:
Here is how it will go: This will be a list of requirements and items chosen. As they are purchased they will be marked as so. Some items have been "pre-chosen" for you as these are items I really like, they can be changed if you find a better deal/item.
Most everything will be purchased through pirate vendors who are welcome to post prices and availability.

Requirements:
An "everything" rifle. This will do everything from plinking to hunting so it must be adaptable or easily altered for its roles. It must be accurate but not "OMFG subMOA sniper from 11tymillion yards" accurate. It must not weigh a ton, ounces = pounds so I will shave weight where not needed.

So lets start.

Lower: CMMG
Grip: ERGO
stock: I think I will use this Magpul CTR, its light and fits me better than a "stock" M4 and has no tactical crap on it. That and it locks nice and tight
FCG: I have never used a 2 stage trigger and use "mil shit" at work so is it needed ?
Buffer weight:H
upper: ASA Side charge upper. I have not gotten to "use" mine but I love the fit and finish. that and the ability to not chew up my hands with an optic is a nice touch
Bolt/BCG: Colt, already have a complete one.
barrel, length, weight, profile, twist, gas system:
optic: I have a Millet DMS and Recon X mount from Aloharover here right now. Any problems there?
front/rear sight: I already have a Troy HK front and a Matech rear, any issues there? (front might change depending on handguard)
Handguard: thinking about JP V-TAC
Flash hider:
Other shit? Magpul trigger guard

Post what you like and bash what you don't like that someone else posts :D There will be separate polls for deciding individual items that no one can agree on :laughing:

Ultra light 16" barrel, CMMG or whatever. 1/7 or 1/9 twist. Good old fashioned direct impingement.
Flash hider: form 1 silencer or a YHM from Aloha
Stock: Ace SOCOM(that's internet speak for motherfawking tactical!) collapser, nice and light with a meat tenderizer built in.
Grip: A1 or A2
Buffer would probably be an "H" buffer, it smoothed my carbine out.

Handguard could probably stay as a regular plastic CAR or M4 style, or just a plain free float tube. That DMS weighs a ton, so saving weight here would pay off. Or just get your carbon fiber groove on again and build a poor man's PRI knock off.

Ultra light 16" barrel, CMMG or whatever. 1/7 or 1/9 twist. Good old fashioned direct impingement.
Flash hider: form 1 silencer or a YHM from Aloha
Stock: Ace SOCOM(that's internet speak for motherfawking tactical!) collapser, nice and light with a meat tenderizer built in.
Grip: A1 or A2
Buffer would probably be an "H" buffer, it smoothed my carbine out.

Handguard could probably stay as a regular plastic CAR or M4 style, or just a plain free float tube. That DMS weighs a ton, so saving weight here would pay off. Or just get your carbon fiber groove on again and build a poor man's PRI knock off.

I just built a thin profile 16" and HOLY FUCK was it light :eek: does it get much "whip" or is that just BS? I am not worried about heat movement as much.

Flash hider may just be a YHM one because my next toy that I am currently saving for is a YHM screw on 308 can

grip I am thinking Ergo. I have one on my other and it fits nice, but still open for options.

Handguard: thats why I am thinking the V-TAC, I can add just the rails I need and it free floats the barrel. no unnecessary weight.

A lightweight barrel will shoot just fine. They do tend to have a slightly greater point of impact shift when you spin a can on the end. Just zero it sans can, and then with can. Remember how many clicks up/down and left/right, and adjust your optic as you need to.

That vtac looks pretty nice.

I vote for every Magpul item you can fit on the thing :flipoff2:

I say use all magpul parts just for the red horsey :flipoff2:



Lower: Larue :flipoff2: What ever you have or is cheaper
Grip: See stock
stock: Bell & Carlson thumbhole stock... Am I the only one that likes butt-hole stocks? http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=217096
FCG: RRA 2 stage trigger
Buffer weight:Enidine AR-Restor Hydraulic Recoil Buffer Full Stock, because I hate the spring noise from my A2 stocks
upper: ASA Side charge upper. I have not gotten to "use" mine but I love the fit and finish. that and the ability to not chew up my hands with an optic is a nice touch
Bolt/BCG: Colt, already have a complete one.
barrel, length, weight, profile, twist, gas system: 18" CMMG mid-length med contour
optic: I have a Millet DMS and Recon X mount from Aloharover here right now. Use it
front/rear sight: I already have a Troy HK front and a Matech rear, any issues there? Use it
Handguard: YHM Customizable Free Float Forearm System rifle length w/ end cap, just like the V-Tac but cheaper
Flash hider: YHM Phantom 5.56 comp/brake Q.D. mount (For your eventual suppressor
Other shit?

I say use all magpul parts just for the red horsey :flipoff2:
it will get a magpul trigger guard at the least :flipoff2: sorry, I do like them.


stock: Bell & Carlson thumbhole stock... Am I the only one that likes butt-hole stocks?

yes, you are the only one :flipoff2: added weight and annoyance :p that and no adjustability. this weapon will get used for everything so body armor/heavy clothing may dictate an adjustable stock. I have to fingerfuck the magpull shit some more to add those an an option.


Buffer weight:Enidine AR-Restor Hydraulic Recoil Buffer Full Stock, because I hate the spring noise from my A2 stocks

use LST or grease and the "sproing" will disappear.

Lower: Who cares, has anyone ever broke a lower?
Grip: DPMS Panther Tactical Palm Grip. <20 bucks from brownells and ubercomfy
stock: Doublestar M4 Socom.
FCG: I'd stick to the "mil shit" trigger group. Works fine for me and it's what you are used to.
Other shit:
I'll second the fagpul trigger guard, makes it easy to shoot in gloves or if you have any buddies with meat hooks for hands they can still shoot without getting thier finger stuck.

it will get a magpul trigger guard at the least :flipoff2: sorry, I do like them.they are cool

use LST or grease and the "sproing" will disappear.

What is LST and WTF are you building another ar-15. Build an AR-10

Lower Receiver - Tactical Innovations T15 BDX. They are a very nice match for the ASA side charger. I have one I am thinking of putting the ASA side charger 9mm on.

Stock - Have you looked at the Skully type entry stocks?

What is LST and WTF are you building another ar-15. Build an AR-10

x2 Ditch the poodle shooter 556

i would much rather see doc build a 308 ar!

i would much rather see doc build a 308 ar!

I am interested to see that too.

it needz lazerz:flipoff2:

What is LST and WTF are you building another ar-15. Build an AR-10

sorry LSAT.
and a 308 will be a MUCH later build :flipoff2: Work with me people :p

Ohhh I know. I thinking about making my AR-10 into somthing like Noeske's Project Leonidas:smokin:

http://noveskerifleworks.com/imimg/projectleonidas_1d.jpg

Lower: Cavalry Arms CAV-15:flipoff2:
Grip: N/A
stock: N/A
FCG: Bacon
Buffer weight: Bacon
upper: Flat-top Slab-side
Bolt/BCG: Bacon
barrel, length, weight, profile, twist, gas system: 14.5" M4 profile, 1:7" twist, carbine gas system (cut down FSB)
optic: Bacon
front/rear sight: None
Handguard: Clark Custom Guns Carbon Fiber (http://www.clarkcustomguns.com/clk750.htm)
Flash hider: Phantom for QD Supressor (permanently attached or SBR)
Other shit? Lots of ammo.

Ah, that's another thing. Does the budget allow for the SBR treatment?

Ah, that's another thing. Does the budget allow for the SBR treatment?

not really. the 200 I can toss at that for 2-4 inches I can toss at a less fortunate weapon for a LOT more inches :evil: 16" is fine by me

Lower doesn't matter.

Grip, pick one, I'm shocked at how great the Houge ergo grip is.

Stock, use the M4 stock. It works fine for me and I feel that the more expensive ones are a waste of money.

FCG, DEFINITELY get a two stage trigger. Every military rifle that I ever fired was creep city! You'll be shocked at how much easier it is to shoot an AR with a two stage trigger.

Barrel, either go with the 14.7x that is 16" with the flash hider welded on or just settle for the 16" barrel if you don't want to permanently attach the flash hider. I prefer heavy barrels. DEFINITELY GET 1 IN 7 TWIST (I am probably selling my upper because it is 1 in 9). I like the midlength gas system for additional sight radius.

My carbine is super simple because I hate all the stupid bullshit that people put on ARs. Mine is a bone stock RRA Elite CAR-A4. The only things I'd change if I could would be the barrel twist, length to the minimum WITH flashhider, and I'd change the furniture to green.

sorry LSAT.
and a 308 will be a MUCH later build :flipoff2: Work with me people :p

Okay so whats LSAT and where do I get it?

I am working with you. I'm helping see that the AR-10 is much mo betta. I got my lower so far and now I'm saving for the rest cuz I have to budget myself nowadays:(

not really. the 200 I can toss at that for 2-4 inches I can toss at a less fortunate weapon for a LOT more inches :evil: 16" is fine by me

You'll come to the SBR side soon enough

Lower doesn't matter.

Grip, pick one, I'm shocked at how great the Houge ergo grip is.

Stock, use the M4 stock. It works fine for me and I feel that the more expensive ones are a waste of money.I've actually handled an AR with a VLTOR and it was pretty solid. It didn't rattle and fit nicely

Barrel, either go with the 14.7x that is 16" with the flash hider welded on or just settle for the 16" barrel if you don't want to permanently attach the flash hider. I prefer heavy barrels. DEFINITELY GET 1 IN 7 TWIST (I am probably selling my upper because it is 1 in 9). I like the midlength gas system for additional sight radius.Explain why 1:7

Requirements:

Lower: Whatevery you have laying around
Grip: TangoDown (I like the way it feels and it covers the gap in the trigger guard that seems to chew up my middle finger when shooting. You may have to trim it a little to work with the Magpul guard)
stock: standard M4 or Magpul CTR (sorry THR)
FCG: There's some guy named Bill Springfield who tunes AR FCG's for like $35 and I've read that they're pretty good. Otherwise, I would look into a Geiselle SSA (pricey)
Buffer weight: H if you go with carbine gas system
upper: ASA Side charge upper. I have not gotten to "use" mine but I love the fit and finish. that and the ability to not chew up my hands with an optic is a nice touch
Bolt/BCG: Colt, already have a complete one.
barrel, length, weight, profile, twist, gas system: Go with a Del-Ton 1:9 mid-length barrel , cut-down FSB, chopped to 14.7"and turned down to a lightweight profile or pick up a CMMG 16" 1:7 lightweight middy barrel from Pete.
optic: I have a Millet DMS and Recon X mount from Aloharover here right now. Any problems there? I'll be using the same set-up on my next build
front/rear sight: I already have a Troy HK front and a Matech rear, any issues there? (front might change depending on handguard) Stick with those
Handguard: JP V-TAC or YHM tube (like AlohaRover's space gun)
Flash hider: standard A2, pinned & welded. You could cut the barrel down to 14.5 with a pinned Phantom, though.
Other shit?


My thoughts above...

That should be pretty lightweight and plenty accurate. Are you making your own sling?

Edited: To reflect information from one of aloharover's post about mid-length gas systems.

Requirements:
An "everything" rifle. This will do everything from plinking to hunting so it must be adaptable or easily altered for its roles. It must be accurate but not "OMFG subMOA sniper from 11tymillion yards" accurate. It must not weigh a ton, ounces = pounds so I will shave weight where not needed.

So lets start.

Lower: Spikes with the bullet marks
Grip: What ever is most comfortable. The Ergo is the best grip for me.
stock:I have a light and an EoTech on my main HD carbine so I really like the stocks that have some form of battery storage. CAA 6-Pos, Vltor ModStock or EMod, etc. I am using a plain milspec collapser and then a CAA saddle. Basically its the poor mans ModStock.
FCG: I think you will be down right amazed using the RRA 2-stage. Like you I spent years with nothing but the as issued trigger. The RRA is worth it.
Buffer weight:Adjustable hydraulic
front/rear sight:You are going to want to swap out the front sight for a forearm mounted one.
barrel, length, weight, profile, twist, gas system: Given your requirements I would say the CMMG 18" SPR barrel. Mid length gas system. Then send it to GoZuki and have it turned down to a lightwieght profile.
BCG: If you colt bolt carrier isn't the heavier FA version, swap it.
Handguard: JP V-TAC is VERY nice, but consider the YHM custom. Its very light and good price. Get the 12" version. Install a 3" rail out at the end for your front sight.
Flash hider:If you are going to suppress, get the FH that works with the can you want. Otherwise get a PWS brake.
Other shit?



303 just got a LW 16" from me and he seemed very pleased and surprised by the weight.
If you don't like the idea of getting the 18" and turning it down, then get the 16" LW.

I know someone is going to say, you don't need a brake on a .223. But after having spent some time swapping out the YHM FH and comp back and forth it does make a difference.
The PWS is even better. Course a can works best.

Middy gas system, heavy carrier, heavy buffer, good brake, your front sight doesn't move shooting standing rapid fire. Even with the LW barrel, Very nice.

Does the PWS brake with cans???

Does the PWS brake with cans???

The FSC556 from PWS works with the Gemtech Halo. They also make a version of it that works with Gemtech G5(I think) cans.

Pete,

What is your preference on the carbine vs. mid-length with the 16" LW barrel?

I believe you go with the longest gas system you can.

The only thing I have a carbine gas system on is my 10" barrel. With the gas block and FH threadeding there just isn't any room for anything longer.

The longer the length the less the operating pressure inside the system, causes a slight delay in dwell, is not as harsh on the moving parts, etc.

I never got my question answer on what LSAT is and where I get it

I never got my question answer on what LSAT is and where I get it

sorry :flipoff2: LSAT = Lubricant, Semi-Fluid, All Temperature.


Its easier just to find grease in the civilian world. :laughing:

You mean GAA doesn't exist in the Navy? You guys had to have your own name for it?

Well its a start. I have a CMMG lower :flipoff2:

was looking at a Olympic 223 pistol today that was all lightened by milling slots everywhere. Like the magwell and a hole drilled across behind the grip at the radius.

http://www.quarterbore.com/images/oa98_a_03.jpg

Do you think lightening holes would structurally alter the lower? Like the mag well and other non loaded areas?

I could do just simple holes or I could get creative and do skulls or some shit :laughing:

I *guess* I could see that being a little help on a pistol - but overall none of my AR's have ever made me say "Jesus this thing is too fucking heavy"?

I *guess* I could see that being a little help on a pistol - but overall none of my AR's have ever made me say "Jesus this thing is too fucking heavy"?

ounces = pounds :D

figure shave some here and there and it will add up to "holy fuck is this light !"

I would rather use one of the plastic receivers than have an aluminum one blessed by the pope (holy:flipoff2:). See my suggestions above.

I would rather use one of the plastic receivers than have an aluminum one blessed by the pope (holly:flipoff2:). See my suggestions above.

no one makes a plastic lower without a stock for sale by itself. :(

and don't call me Holly :flipoff2:

ounces = pounds :D

figure shave some here and there and it will add up to "holy fuck is this light !"

Who am I to argue - my last buggy was 2360# - maybe instead of holes could get it chucked up into a cnc machine and mill some low spots in non structural areas? Old hotrod guys used to dip whole bodies into acid to eat a tiny bit off the thing and cut some weight - don't always need holes - maybe just thin it out? I'm too lazy to go back and read your original post, has lightweight become a theme? Any thoughts on upper weight shaving?

Do you think lightening holes would structurally alter the lower? Like the mag well and other non loaded areas?

As long as you don't beat it around, it should be fine. That'd be a lot less resistant to chunking out a piece of the magwell if you dropped it against something pointy, than an unmolested one.

Incidentally, the one in the pic has been milled out where the serial number used to be, which *might* get one into hot water with the ATF (mutilating/destroying the serial on a firearm is bad juju IIRC) if they wanted to push the issue.

Can't see it, but if the pistol grip tang *isn't* crossdrilled on that one, they didn't do the drill job to shave weight. And I'd also crossdrill the upright at the back of the trigger opening with a bunch of little holes if I was really trying to shave grams.

And looking at that pic, it reminds me of my laundry basket. :laughing:

no one makes a plastic lower without a stock for sale by itself. :(


When has "no one makes..." stopped you before? I'd offer to carve a "billet" plastic one if I had G code for an AR15 lower, but all I have code for is my weirdo molestation of an AR10. And you'd still have to finish it out, 'cause I'm not breaking the law for some imaginary internet dude's project. :flipoff2:

And looking at that pic, it reminds me of my laundry basket. :laughing:

I would keep it clean with just "speed holes" or something. I think that pattern is retarded but it gave me ideas :laughing:

When has "no one makes..." stopped you before? I'd offer to carve a "billet" plastic one if I had G code for an AR15 lower, but all I have code for is my weirdo molestation of an AR10. And you'd still have to finish it out, 'cause I'm not breaking the law for some imaginary internet dude's project. :flipoff2:

Thats a project for a different thread :flipoff2:
You know the thread where I make a 4 piece mold using a finished reciever and then mold it out of carbon fiber with Ti inserts :laughing:

Speaking of titanium, why don't you start replacing steel parts with something lighter. Maybe the pins? Do they make titanium hammers? Oh, and my stuff came in, thanks.

...When has "no one makes..." stopped you before? I'd offer to carve a "billet" plastic one if I had G code for an AR15 lower, but all I have code for is my weirdo molestation of an AR10. And you'd still have to finish it out, 'cause I'm not breaking the law for some imaginary internet dude's project. :flipoff2:
http://www.cncguns.com/downloads.html:flipoff2:
http://www.cncguns.com/images/ar15_drawing_lower_2.jpg

im partial to my new build. not quite as light as i was hoping but better than my last HBAR.

http://tamor.us/members-rigs/albums/Miscstuff/new.jpg

http://www.cncguns.com/downloads.html:flipoff2:
http://www.cncguns.com/images/ar15_drawing_lower_2.jpg

Yeahyeah... where d'ya think I got the model for my AR10? :laughing:

Honestly, I've been meaning to get to a similarly adapted AR15 lower, I just haven't had time (and I have yet to perfect the AR10 lower anyway--what I do have, is workable but defective, so I need to try again).

This will get merged with my AR build thread. How long is a YHM suppressor mount flash hider and how much is a Colt "real" M4 barrel worth?

2.625"
If you are going where I think you don't cut at 13.375. Remember to leave enough room for threads.

2-250$ depending on round count. I would rather have an FN hammer forged M16A2 barrel :smokin:

2.625"
If you are going where I think you don't cut at 13.375. Remember to leave enough room for threads.

2-250$ depending on round count. I would rather have an FN hammer forged M16A2 barrel :smokin:
There is a factory m4 barrel that someone wants to trade for a stripped lower and wanted to see my "worth" :D
its a 14.5 m-4 barrel. You think with the flash hider adapter it would be 16"?

The way I understand it the phantom will get a 14.5" barrel legal while it takes a 14.7" barrel to be legal with an A2.

So if you trade the lower does that mean you are going with a Cavalry Arms plastic chunk? How much would the whole shooting match (pun intended:flipoff2: weigh with that setup?

So if you trade the lower does that mean you are going with a Cavalry Arms plastic chunk? How much would the whole shooting match (pun intended:flipoff2: weigh with that setup?

no :flipoff2: still using a "normal" lower. Fuck , I have a few in the safe :laughing:

There is a factory m4 barrel that someone wants to trade for a stripped lower and wanted to see my "worth" :D
its a 14.5 m-4 barrel. You think with the flash hider adapter it would be 16"?

If it's in good shape, I'd trade.

With the YHM QD adapter permanently attached, it's over 16".

The QD is a bit longer then the regular Phantom. I know the ragulr phantom takes a 14.5 to just over 16, so yes you would be safe.

updated the list.
V-tac handguard is on its way :evil: And I have an idea to make the lower lighter :laughing:

well I got it. its a C MP stamped 14.5" M4 barrel, chrome lined 1:7 twist, F stamped block, yadayada tacticool whatever. :laughing:
So should I run it? :D
Should I turn down the 203 notch and give it a nice smooth profile?
give futing a shot on the thick front/middle and base? (maybe thompson style finning)

Or should I sell/trade it for something LW 16"?

Turn the front down to the 203 notch diameter, pin/braze a muzzle device on there, and run it.

I'd probably sell it and buy a midlength barrel.

Turn the front down to the 203 notch diameter, pin/braze a muzzle device on there, and run it.

see I just build shit :laughing: I hope others can tell me the level of suck of a product before I get it :flipoff2:
Besides the desk warrior love of "mil-spec" crap I have no clue how well this barrel performs besides the thrashing I give them at work :laughing:

I'd probably sell it and buy a midlength barrel.

But that would make me have to wait :laughing:

But that would make me have to wait :laughing:

I think the midlength gas system is more reliable. It'd be worth it.

I think the midlength gas system is more reliable. It'd be worth it.

its a tough call :laughing: just at 16" barrel when done and a short gas system or 18ish when done and a midlength.

as for reliable, I don't kill one of our M-4's very often :flipoff2:

Its a well made barrel.
Let me know if you want to trade for a CMMG 16" or 18" middy. I have an 18" on hand so no delays.

Its a well made barrel.
Let me know if you want to trade for a CMMG 16" or 18" middy. I have an 18" on hand so no delays.

Fuckit, I am going to run it.
So should I take pics of me taking a lathe to a brand new C MP stamped barrel? :evil: and a cut-off wheel to a "F" stamped gas block :laughing:

Fuckit, I am going to run it.
So should I take pics of me taking a lathe to a brand new C MP stamped barrel? :evil: and a cut-off wheel to a "F" stamped gas block :laughing:


DO EEEET! :grinpimp: :goofball:

its a tough call :laughing: just at 16" barrel when done and a short gas system or 18ish when done and a midlength.

as for reliable, I don't kill one of our M-4's very often :flipoff2:

I'm aware that the military uses a carbine length gas system. They also buy barrels profiled in such a way that the 203 fits on them.

For a personal weapon, I'd rather have a 14.7 + the A2 flashhider on a middy barrel.

Do you have the tools to build your own uppers?

Do you have the tools to build your own uppers?

you mean "assemble" or "build" ? :laughing: the answer would be yes :flipoff2:

you mean "assemble" or "build" ? :laughing: the answer would be yes :flipoff2:

That's pretty bad as.

I guess that's going to be the way I talk myself into another upper. I'll get the tools, build ten at the same time, sell off what i don't need, and keep one for myself. :flipoff2:

I guess that's going to be the way I talk myself into another upper. I'll get the tools, build ten at the same time, sell off what i don't need, and keep one for myself. :flipoff2:

what, you don't have a AR armorers wrench and a barrel vice or action block ? :confused:
we are talking like $50 total in tools to assemble an AR upper.

what, you don't have a AR armorers wrench and a barrel vice or action block ? :confused:
we are talking like $50 total in tools to assemble an AR upper.

Ha.

I'm a broke college student who lives in a studio apartment. I'm lucky to still have my reloading press.

Stick to flat tops and you don't even need anything more than a couple aluminum blocks and a vise (plus the armorer's wrench, but you only even need that for standard barrel nuts--most other barrel nuts use a different wrench or spanner). Could get by without even the blocks if you're careful.

I don't even have a proper vise for holding an upper, but the milling fixture that lets me mill off the excess off the bottom of the bulk rail, clamps rather nicely onto... well... pretty much every other variety of 1913 style rail. :)

The armorer's wrench is pretty cheap, too--in the $15ish neighborhood, IIRC.

:laughing: All this talk of tools makes me laugh. I had another popped primer today and the BCG wouldn't return to battery. Ended up having to pull the buffer tube off. No castle nut wrench here, a pipe wrench worked well though. :laughing: Used a screw driver to restake it (with a hammer) and since I couldn't find a long enough allen wrench to reach the frip retaining screw, I used a torx bit on a ratchet. :laughing: gun bootyfab. :D

Started the assembly today. The lathe at work is online so I mutilated a fucking Colt actual M-4 barrel complete with hacking a "F" stamped gas block :laughing:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=394766&stc=1&d=1223074040

next was cutting a charging handle slot into a bolt carrier with a "c" on it or something.
Holy FUCK is that hard steel and a bitch to mill with a 1/8 endmil :eek:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=394765&stc=1&d=1223074040

And I said I was cutting ounces.
Speed holes in the magpul trigger guard to make it ULTRATACTICAL :flipoff2:
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=394764&stc=1&d=1223074040

Oh ya.. cutting ounces... hmmmmm..slots in the mag well would just be, well..fucking boring and not me :evil:

Tell me what you think of this shit. Mind you that I have not filled in the stamping or duracoated it black.




































http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=394763&stc=1&d=1223074040
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=394762&stc=1&d=1223074040

Hoooooolllllllyyyyyyyyy sssshhhhhiiiiiitttttttt..

Tits :smokin:

Motherfawking lazors n shit!

Rock on.

fucking hard ass steel :mad3:
I wanted to gun drill my selector and its too fucking hard :laughing:


Ok maybe I am taking this lightening thing too far...maybe? :flipoff2:

Motherfawking lazors n shit!

Rock on.

ummm no. I cut that by HAND, no laser.
1/8 and 1/16 endmills in the New Fordom I got from Gozuki.

All hail the foredom.

All hail the foredom.

So you approve?

I assume so seeing as there was no comment on the speed-holed Magpul part :flipoff2:

amazing.

So you approve?

I assume so seeing as there was no comment on the speed-holed Magpul part :flipoff2:

Speed holes raise it from the "in da butt" song guy gay to effeminate bisexual ghey.

I miss having a roomie that had a foredom, that thing was awesome.

Anyone else have problems with DPMS fire control groups?
This is the 2nd one that the disconnector was so out of whack I get trigger slap and when attempting to fix it is is pointless as the angles are wrong.
This is the 2nd disconnector I have thats fucked in 2 different guns.

some done pics. only change will be the flash hider to a suppressor mount one.

Oh and 8lbs even WITH optic and mount.

Doesn't forward rail line up perfectly with the rear rail? Couldn't you then run some dirt cheap yet lighter normal rings? Say something like this:
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=122228
http://www.midwayusa.com/midwayusa/staticpages/highres/122228.jpg


The receiver looks cool with the OD mag in it.:mr-t:

Doesn't forward rail line up perfectly with the rear rail? Couldn't you then run some dirt cheap yet lighter normal rings? Say something like this:

I could but I kinda like this mount :D
the rail was a tit-hair lower, now mind you I could have bitch and started a thread on ARF.com about it but instead I did what every person here would do....









I went to the fucking hardware store and made a full length brass shim for the bitch using a dremel tool :flipoff2:

...I went to the fucking hardware store and made a full length brass shim for the bitch using a dremel tool :flipoff2:What you couldn't cut it with some scissors:flipoff2:

Was it the very top that wasn't level or was it the points on the sides that wasn't level (or both)?


Have you shot it yet? How do you like the scope?

What you couldn't cut it with some scissors:flipoff2:

Was it the very top that wasn't level or was it the points on the sides that wasn't level (or both)?


Have you shot it yet? How do you like the scope?

I did use them to "cut" it, I used the dremel to slot the holes :laughing:

entire thing was like 1/16 low, could be a variance in the uppers. Like I said it was just enough to annoy me

quote from another forum regarding your lightening.

the image is not well-defined enough. Seriously unless you are looking at that thinking to yourself that it's zombies you might see the skull. But you cannot glance at it and instantly know what it is.

It's like a rorschach test

where is the pic of your front BUISTYKIYP?

quote from another forum regarding your lightening.

I think it's badass, but that guy is correct.

quote from another forum regarding your lightening.

are they stupid? :laughing: what forum?

My money is on barfcom.

small automotive forum that rarely is on the topic of cars actually.

he is right though, unless you know what its supposed to be its kinda hard to tell what it is.

My money is on barfcom.

Nope, they seem to like it :laughing: :flipoff2:

dammit...I'm not searching. Post up links.

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=398153

Nope, they seem to like it :laughing: :flipoff2:


Doin better than I am, they hate mine.:laughing:

Oh noes, I RUINED a perfectly good carbine.:laughing:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=398114

Doin better than I am, they hate mine.:laughing:

Oh noes, I RUINED a perfectly good carbine.:laughing:

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=118&t=398114

If it makes you feel better I just had the guide pin on my crown cutter break while cutting a target crown on this and it took a huge chunk out of the back of my hand :laughing:

That will never stand up to tacticool use.

Just to prove them wrong you should let the mall security guy driving a smart car run over it a few times. I'm sure it will be just fine.

That will never stand up to tacticool use.



cause I own "safe queens" :laughing::laughing:
motherfucker does NOT know me :laughing:

RANGE REPORT !!

1st round, failure to extract :mad3: WHAT THE FUCK :mad3::mad3:




oh :emb: I forgot to completely clean the chamber after duracoating :laughing:
It ripped the rim off the case :laughing:

ok, lube, 2nd round on (by me) fucking perfect. everything staying 1/2" @25 yard sight in target without effort. every "miss" was my own damm fault and I knew it. (by me)
no stringing, no funky shit, just blam happy smiling.

Fingers around the magwell with thumb over the flipped out charging handle feels beautiful and gives quick motion for immediate action. I need to pick up some orange rounds to do drills as it NEVER faltered (by me)


Notice the "by me" part? well I let a marine range instructor fire the weapon.
failure to extract
blam, blam
failure to extract
blam
failure to extract
blam blam
failure to extract

let me see that.
blam,blam,blam,blam,blam,blam.....blam,blam,blam, reload, blam
:laughing:
I think it might be "my" gun :evil:

do you want to buy one of my lowers and sell it back to me?

:)

do you want to buy one of my lowers and sell it back to me?

:)

no :flipoff2:

But it gives people ideas. Like a cross-hair or target for a target gun, coyote silhouette for a varmint gun.


Oh and you fuckers need to help me find a front sight :laughing:

Oh and you fuckers need to help me find a front sight :laughing:


http://www.uncompany.com/pagemaincat.asp?catid=6

:flipoff2:

http://www.uncompany.com/pagemaincat.asp?catid=6

:flipoff2:

funnay :laughing:

hey do those split CAA bipods suck? or should I stay away from the gayness that is bipods?

no :flipoff2:

But it gives people ideas. Like a cross-hair or target for a target gun, coyote silhouette for a varmint gun.


Oh and you fuckers need to help me find a front sight :laughing:Just remove the rear sight and presto...no more need for a front sight. You would then call it a BUISTSATSTINI (back up iron sight that stays at the store till I need it):flipoff2:

You would then call it a BUISTSATSTINI (back up iron sight that stays at the store till I need it):flipoff2:

:laughing::laughing:

We need to start a list of these.

:laughing::laughing:

We need to start a list of these.

No shit, I was searching the other day trying to find the exact acronym for the "back up optic kept in pocket in case primary optic and iron sights shit the bed" or something like that. Some guy on arf was asking about a dr optic and it if would fit his mount so he could literally carry it in his pocket as backup.:laughing:

No shit, I was searching the other day trying to find the exact acronym for the "back up optic kept in pocket in case primary optic and iron sights shit the bed" or something like that. Some guy on arf was asking about a dr optic and it if would fit his mount so he could literally carry it in his pocket as backup.:laughing:

I think I'll go ahead and take credit for that one.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8073821&postcount=52 :laughing:

Just remove the rear sight and presto...no more need for a front sight. You would then call it a BUISTSATSTINI (back up iron sight that stays at the store till I need it):flipoff2:

Hey, when that 338 Lapua round glaces of my unsafe magwell and takes out my optic by knocking it out of zero due to my "obvious ripoff of a LaRue design" mount I need to have the shit already on there. :flipoff2:

Can't forget

SBFLWARTOTS.

We should slowly start feeding these ridiculous acronyms to ARFcom and see how quick they spread.

Are you going to cram a cleaning kit in there too?...I bet you $5 you will need it long before a front sight:flipoff2:

I think I'll go ahead and take credit for that one.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8073821&postcount=52 :laughing:

Damnit, that was it, wish I could find that guys post.:laughing:

Some fawker got me the other day with WECSOGS (While E Cayote School Of Gun Smithing), I got a chuckle out of it.


Then I wanted to find the fawker and stab him in the eye with an ice pick, but another beer and I got over it and chuckled again.:D

Some fawker got me the other day with WECSOGS (While E Cayote School Of Gun Smithing), I got a chuckle out of it.

as you should :flipoff2:
the assembly of this weapon involved a 4.5" grinder and a hand held high speed cutter :laughing:

How do you like your foredom?

How do you like your foredom?

it kicks ass. does not seem to have the "speed" as my Dremel but it does NOT bog down, oh ya

AND IT DOES NOT FEEL LIKE MY FUCKING HAND IS ON FIRE WHILE USING IT !!!
:laughing:

That and the mini-drill collet is better.

How do you like the JP tube?

Does the hardware that is supposed to hold the rails in the slots seem like it's sturdy enough?

Looks pimp. :smokin:

it kicks ass. does not seem to have the "speed" as my Dremel but it does NOT bog down, oh ya

AND IT DOES NOT FEEL LIKE MY FUCKING HAND IS ON FIRE WHILE USING IT !!!
:laughing:

That and the mini-drill collet is better.

I hate the collets on dremel. I usually have to pull them apart and beat on them to get the bits out. The foot pedal on the foredom looks nice. I can't afford a new one though. Need to check craigslist I guess.

it kicks ass. does not seem to have the "speed" as my Dremel but it does NOT bog down, oh ya

AND IT DOES NOT FEEL LIKE MY FUCKING HAND IS ON FIRE WHILE USING IT !!!
:laughing:

That and the mini-drill collet is better.

Nice.

There is athread here on PBB where I asked about getting a Foredom and I do believe YOU replied I should just stick with dremals. :rolleyes:














:flipoff2:

Damnit, that was it, wish I could find that guys post.:laughing:

Some fawker got me the other day with WECSOGS (While E Cayote School Of Gun Smithing), I got a chuckle out of it.


Then I wanted to find the fawker and stab him in the eye with an ice pick, but another beer and I got over it and chuckled again.:D

Yeah you definately got a couple douche responses to the build.

Fawking CyberCommandos and eRangers. :shaking::shaking:

yease !! the haters are comming out on BARF :evil:

yease !! the haters are comming out on BARF :evil:

I'm sitting here laughing ...

"I can't see that weakened mag well standing up to tactical use."

If you 3-gun that rifle, it's going to see more "tactical" use than 99.99999% of the people reading that thread will ever put their guns through. What is wrong with these people...

Now I'm laughing even harder.. god forbid LaRue ever makes receivers. Aluminum is for pussies - it'll have to be made of hardened 300M for sure. And the picatinny rail will also be used as a saw for tactical tree cutting .. and if you are ever caught in a super tactical situation without your vest, you can use a spare lower as a SAPI plate. I think the bolt release will have to have double as a tactical bottle opener too... :laughing:

I'm sitting here laughing ...

"I can't see that weakened mag well standing up to tactical use."

If you 3-gun that rifle, it's going to see more "tactical" use than 99.99999% of the people reading that thread will ever put their guns through. What is wrong with these people...


my last reply was:
Maybe I should have put a set of nuts on the side instead, no sharp edges to bend, easy to identify and I could tell you to lick them. :D

Fuck 3 gun shoots, I will just take it to work with me and shoot our courses with it :laughing:

yease !! the haters are comming out on BARF :evil:I liked this one:shaking:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=18&t=396932