I sure hope he knows what he's doing and it isn't the "Lammy Thing".

I don't get it, what are you talking about?

Jeff

Originally posted by dog walker
I don't get it, what are you talking about?

Jeff

Jeremy McGrath signed with KTM for the next 4 years. I was jus sayin that I hope it doesn't turn out like Lamson's Husky deal, where the bike wasn't as good as it was in Europe (no works bikes in USA).

I see, lol!

Where did you hear that??? If that is true he truly has no chance of beating RC or any of the top riders now. He should have gone to Kawasaki if Yamaha wasn't going to pay him the money he deserves for what he has done for the sport. MC on an orange swedish linkless hunk of junk, what an awful thought. The biggest mistake of his career if its true, but hey it must be ALL FOR THE MONEY since I am sure he knows nobody can win on one of those lemons not even him. I bet they gave him a HUGE GUARNTEED multi year contract to ride for them thinking that it will help sell some more of there horribly suspended, slow turning, linkless orange beaters.

Originally posted by redline
Where did you hear that??? If that is true he truly has no chance of beating RC or any of the top riders now. He should have gone to Kawasaki if Yamaha wasn't going to pay him the money he deserves for what he has done for the sport. MC on an orange swedish linkless hunk of junk, what an awful thought. The biggest mistake of his career if its true, but hey it must be ALL FOR THE MONEY since I am sure he knows nobody can win on one of those lemons not even him. I bet they gave him a HUGE GUARNTEED multi year contract to ride for them thinking that it will help sell some more of there horribly suspended, slow turning, linkless orange beaters.


Well someone forgot to tell John Dowd and Guy Cooper how bad their bikes suck.For a couple of guys in their mid 30's they sure are embarrassing a lot of the youngsters out there.

Well you are talking about two of the greatest riders ever in Coop and Dowdy. If it wasn't for Dowd KTM wouldn't even be in the top 10 and can you tell me when was the last time KTM put a bike on the podium in an outdoor national??? I am sure they have but can you just tell me when it was and if ever. They never have won a 250 supercross main and the only 125 main they won they got it handed to them when the lead rider crashed out. They spend major dollars on there bikes and riders with not much to show for it. I actually like the four strokes it just there two strokes are so far behind and linkless is a joke. If you don't think MC did it FOR THE MONEY ONLY you are high and out of your mind. If Dowd was on a big four factory ride I bet he would be at least 4th or better. Defend KTM all you want they just are and are always going to be one below the big four, until they put a linkage on there bike and change there frames. I hope MC proves me wrong and tears it up on his factory KTM I just don't see it happening. If anyone can do it he can.

Originally posted by redline
can you tell me when was the last time KTM put a bike on the podium in an outdoor national??? I am sure they have but can you just tell me when it was and if ever.

You ever hear of a guy named GRANT LANGSTON? Anyway, I think he won an AMA National last year. Actually, he won a few of them. I know it's a 125, but it doesn't have linkage either. You should find out why shock linkage was introduced, and it wasn't because it worked better.

I agree with you about MC riding orange but not because of the bike. I just feel his best chances would be on familiar bikes. Now, I'm affraid his goals will be lowered to winning the first one for KTM, and not winning the championship for himself. And now he has a "built in" excuse for not being a true contender because the bike has not been proven in SX...yet.

Maybe he knows a lot more than us about the bike. Remember, he left HONDA mostly because he didn't like the aluminum frame, not so he could wakeboard, so, he's not affraid to change everything for better equipment.

And maybe he knows he can't beat RC, so he signs for more money since he's only got two years of good income left...for the rest of his life. I couldn't call that a cop out, he has sacrificed more every day of his life than most ever do in a lifetime. If he would have been injured before he won anything, the sport would not have done much for him in return. I think the sport, racers, and fans owe everything to him and if he wants to jump ship just for bigger pay check, he deserves it. KTM will benefit with more bike sales, therefore pumping more money into the sport and making it that much bigger and better.

Believe it or not, I am not a big Jeremy fan, but the respect is due.

Sorry for ranting

i like ktm but then again i dont make my living on it:flipoff2:

Anyone have proof that he did in fact sign with KTM? I can't find anything on it.

they mentioned it on the motocross races today which was recorded last weekend

Originally posted by TDW
Anyone have proof that he did in fact sign with KTM? I can't find anything on it.

It's also been reported on the Racer X site ;)

Originally posted by redline
I actually like the four strokes it just there two strokes are so far behind and linkless is a joke.

Hey Jackass, let me inform you of a few things. KTM has been able to make the Linkage less design work. It is lighter, simpler and you will see it on the Jap bikes in the future. KTM has always been innovative this way. KTM are very well built, Al bars, hydraulic clutch, light weight, excel rims, etc. etc. Have you seen the growth of the company in the past few years? As sales go up the deeper the pockets. Lets take RC's CR for example. How much of that bike is stock? very little. That costs 100's of thousands, not to mention RC's paycheck. KTM doesnt have the $$$ like Honda, Yamaha.

By the way, stock, the KTM 125 and 250 are very fast. Out of the box they will smoke most of the Jap bikes.

The only thing you can rip on is the front fender, I still cant get used to that thing.

Thats my 0.02 on MX. Dont get me started on woods riding.

I read MC was turning almost 2 seconds a lap faster on the KTM than his YZ, at his SX track. Should be interesting.

I THINK Jeremy was hurt last season. I saw him at the US Open go from last to second, and some other impressive rides that weekend. Then he floundered at the Supercrosses a coupla weeks later, even getting lapped. When he was at Mammoth in June, he was on fire. Nobody could touch him.


I heard he broke his wrist. He was favoring his arm when he rode and blamed it on arm pump. But he absolutely refused to have the arm pump surgery. Hmmmm. He also NEVER had arm pump in the 11 or 12 years I've known him. I've raced with a broken (left) wrist and broken ankles throughout my carreer. Obviously they weren't bad breaks, but they still are a hinderance. I know for a fact he has ridden injured before without telling many people.

I can't wait for Anaheim this year. I'd be willing to bet Jeremy has cured his "arm pump" by then! I'm not sure if he'll be at the US Open, but if he is, that will be the first true test of him and his new bike.

Hey mamas girl ever wonder why ktm has to put all that aftermarket stuff on there bike in the first place?? Its because if they didn't then they would get smoked extra harder than they get smoked now. If you think the big four is going to go linkless likes ktms design you are HIGH. There suspension does and always will be the worst of all the major bikes until they make a major change. It figures you like ktms since you are woods rider that is where they belong and you for that matter. Oh yeah and keep telling yourself that MC didn't go to ktm for the money maybe if you hear it enough even you will believe it. Wake up

DUDE (REDLINE), YOU ARE A JACKASS

Go practice freestyle, your ignorance will be appreciated there. If we're lucky, Kenny Bartram would go "Deliverance" on your ass and make you sqeal like a pig!

Did you ever figure out why shock linkage was invented?

Originally posted by redline
Hey mamas girl ever wonder why ktm has to put all that aftermarket stuff on there bike in the first place?? Its because if they didn't then they would get smoked extra harder than they get smoked now. If you think the big four is going to go linkless likes ktms design you are HIGH. There suspension does and always will be the worst of all the major bikes until they make a major change. It figures you like ktms since you are woods rider that is where they belong and you for that matter. Oh yeah and keep telling yourself that MC didn't go to ktm for the money maybe if you hear it enough even you will believe it. Wake up

Its amazing the amount of ignorance I see. First of all, I don’t like MC, never have. WAS he an awesome rider? Of course, but I don’t care what he is doing.

For what its worth, I was sitting on my toilet last night, thinking of you, reading the Dirt Rider test on the 250 SX. They were pleased with the suspension. Do you even ride? If so, you probably couldn’t tell the difference between the 5 brands anyway. Yes, there are a couple bugs with linkless suspension, but remember, ignorant one, there was bugs and criticism over the first liquid cooled bikes, the first mono-shock, the first power valve, the first cartridge fork, the first 19" wheel (would you like me to keep going?) I think you get the point.

By the way, I ride a CR250. I love it, but I am buying orange next. Yes, I ride a lot of woods and the occasional track. The last time we brought a couple moto guys out in the woods, I believe we had to carry them back to the truck.

You must be a 125 rider. :shaking:

Hey mammas little bitch. If you read any of the last 5 years of any motocross publications you will see ktm always is near the bottom if not the bottom of the suspension ratings. And for you your information I am a pro ranked in the top 40 on the regional arena cross series that travels the country. Why don't you come watch one regional or national Areanacross event and you won't SEE ANY KTMS EVEN MAKE THE MAIN EVENT. SO GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS AND STAY IN THE WOODS WHERE THOSE UGLY ORANGE PIECES OF LINKLESS SHIT BELONG. Oh yeah and Kenny Bartram rides for KTM for the some reason MC is because THEY SHOWED HIM THE MOST MONEY. His relative Guy Cooper got him the contract since he already had one with them. I bet you wouldn't even make the main event on amateur day in the 250 begginer class, oh thats right they never make it on the Pro night so they won't make it on flounder day either. I have no more need to converse with a back woods RETARD like you.

Originally posted by redline
motocross publications you will see ktm always is near the bottom if not the bottom of the suspension ratings. And for you your information I am a pro ranked in the top 40 on the regional arena cross series that travels the country.

It's pretty well known that advertising dollars buy good reviews in the mags, that's why I think Racer X is the only one to read, no bogus "shootouts";)

So you've been racing Arenacross for a while, your name is :confused:

Originally posted by redline
Hey mammas little bitch. If you read any of the last 5 years of any motocross publications you will see ktm always is near the bottom if not the bottom of the suspension ratings. And for you your information I am a pro ranked in the top 40 on the regional arena cross series that travels the country. Why don't you come watch one regional or national Areanacross event and you won't SEE ANY KTMS EVEN MAKE THE MAIN EVENT. SO GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS AND STAY IN THE WOODS WHERE THOSE UGLY ORANGE PIECES OF LINKLESS SHIT BELONG. Oh yeah and Kenny Bartram rides for KTM for the some reason MC is because THEY SHOWED HIM THE MOST MONEY. His relative Guy Cooper got him the contract since he already had one with them. I bet you wouldn't even make the main event on amateur day in the 250 begginer class, oh thats right they never make it on the Pro night so they won't make it on flounder day either. I have no more need to converse with a back woods RETARD like you.

Listen son, I did not say the suspension was great, I just said they are making it work. 99.9% of the people that ride probably cant tell the difference between the brands, including yourself. Who races stock suspension anyway? You arenacross clowns probably even modify your suspension considerably. So what comes out of the factory is typically meaningless.

No KTM's are not prominent in MX, arena x, super x or outdoor, BUT you will be seeing many more in the coming years, I guarantee.

KTM's are fast, well made, have great components, and have the balls to try something new, that is why I respect them.

And one other thing, stop crying, you 125 guys are always whining.:crybaby2:
and dont call me a retard, you...you... poopyhead.

Isnt arena cross for guys how cant make it any where else? Thats what I thought.

Originally posted by redline
Oh yeah and Kenny Bartram rides for KTM for the some reason MC is because THEY SHOWED HIM THE MOST MONEY.

Holy shit did you figure that out on your own:eek:

Think any non privateer is riding for a given company because they like the bike better than the paycheck?

I'm glad most of these assclowns migrated to Cali:flipoff2:

Redline...you jackass...top 40 in the "regional" arenacross? You seriously are an ignorant kid, because there is no top 40 in "regional" arenacross. That's like saying you are ranked in the top 40 of all the guys that DIDN'T qualify, which puts you in 80th!

Oh, I read a post of yours baiting some four wheeler to come out and race you in the INTERMEDIATE class, WTF? ARE YOU A PRO OR NOT? I also found, from your posts, you get called a jackass quite often.


You just got off the mini bike didn't you? If you're such a BAD-ASS, what's your name? I have a Cycle News right here, I'd be glad to look for ya...WHOA, there it is - "J. Ass on the Suzuki (80) with his coach/ trainer/ outta work/ mini-bike DAD."

HERE'S YOUR SIGN...
:flipoff2:

That just shows how little you know about arenacross evilqueer. The regional arenacross doesn't have 5 factory teams that follow it around like the national arenacross series. The regional series has maybe 20 fully sponsored pros with big dollar bikes from big moto shops that follow the circuit. The rest of the people are local pros/intermediates who follow the circuit and have to qualify just like the pros do every night. They are the top intermediates which is the closest class to pro and most local small tracks don't even have a pro am class and when they do its real small and they just combine them with the intermediates so they leave on the same gate. If you RACED you would know this. The reason I say I am top 40 is that fuck no I don't qualify every night I have to beat out a fully sponsered pro rider to make the main event in either the 125 or the 250 class. I race both just like everyone else does and you have no idea how much money it costs to be competitive on a weekly basis. Anyone can qualify on Sunday which is amateur day and even then some of the pros will ride the intermediate class to collect contingency from some of the sponsors but it is rare. You don't have to believe me about the top intermediates qualifying to run with the pros just go to arenacross.com and click on entry for the regional series its will explain it all there. Sure I will tell you my name and how about and address as well. So basicly you guys can talk all your shit and claim KTM is the best bike there is, DREAM ON. Hey evil queer you live in CA what tracks and class do you race in??? None, that is what I thought just another trail queer who talks shit since he is to slow to RACE. I am over all this useless typeing bullshit. If you want to back up your talk come to Reno on Nov 16 or 17 and qualify for the main event in either class then you will understand the level of competition you are up against.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by redline
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The regional series has maybe 20 fully sponsored pros with big dollar bikes from big moto shops that follow the circuit.
Name some of your "big Dollar" REGIONAL riders. Are you talking salary? Twenty of them huh?


you have no idea how much money it costs to be competitive on a weekly basis.
If you were fast enough to be a sponsored pro and qualify for the mains, you too might be able to afford leaving the regionals.


If you RACED you would know this.
I've been "pro" since 1991. You probably have seen those HY-Flyers Cards in Racer X, right? Mine is #181.


Hey evil queer you live in CA what tracks and class do you race in??? None, that is what I thought just another trail queer who talks shit since he is to slow to RACE.
Well, let's see. I raced at every National track in the country. Oh, yeah and every stadium the current SX series goes to, except Atlanta and maybe a coupla new ones.


Sure I will tell you my name and how about and address as well.
I already know your name it's... JACKASS...did you forget?



WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE TO "SEE" IF I CAN RACE? I have forgotten more about riding a motorcycle than you will ever know, you punk-ass bitch.

So now all the sudden you are a SX pro who rides with the best riders in the world on your ktm??? YEAH FUCKING RIGHT. So you are a privateer that qualifys for the main events on the SX series?? NICE FANTASY. Heckle the regional Arenacross all you want Faggot its easy and any queer like you would just dominate the field. So you must know what kind of license and requirements you have to have to be allowed to attempt to qualify for a SX series race right?? Didn't think so. I love it you live in so cal so you now think you are a nationally ranked pro rider who bangs bars with the factory teams. By the way queer boy I ride twice a week at Lake Elsinore Moto Park and ride either a 02 YZ 250 or a 02 YZ 125 with black excel rims and gold talon hubs. You can't miss me I will be the one jumping over your head Bitch. So please stop on by and show me and all the other local pros there how you SX pros ride.

Originally posted by redline
So now all the sudden you are a SX pro who rides with the best riders in the world on your ktm??? YEAH FUCKING RIGHT. So you are a privateer that qualifys for the main events on the SX series?? NICE FANTASY. Heckle the regional Arenacross all you want Faggot its easy and any queer like you would just dominate the field. So you must know what kind of license and requirements you have to have to be allowed to attempt to qualify for a SX series race right?? Didn't think so. I love it you live in so cal so you now think you are a nationally ranked pro rider who bangs bars with the factory teams. By the way queer boy I ride twice a week at Lake Elsinore Moto Park and ride either a 02 YZ 250 or a 02 YZ 125 with black excel rims and gold talon hubs. You can't miss me I will be the one jumping over your head Bitch. So please stop on by and show me and all the other local pros there how you SX pros ride.

Wow. we're getting a little testy, aren’t we? I guess I am pleasantly surprised that you ride a 250. Typically such drivel comes from a 125 rider.
Now we did not say KTM is the "best" bike, I just respect them and I think they make a high quality product.
I am biased towards them because I ride in the woods. You see Minnesota has a lot of woods. When a guy lives in a state with a lot of woods, he typically likes to ride in these woods. Now, Cali has so many @#$% people, there tends to be a lot of tracks, hence the large % of moto guys. You see how that works? As I said before, the last moto guys we brought with us into the woods, had to be practically hauled out on a stretcher. And they were cocky too, they were awesome on the track, they thought woods riding was a joke. They spent most of the time laying on their back, it was pretty funny.

Now, go get a kleenex, find mommy and have her give you a hug. It will be OK.

Hey Redline, just face it dude, you got fully spanked here :rolleyes: Just go back to your room and jackoff to MXA, you've already dug your hole deep enough:D

I heard that SMACK! from the other side of the BB, someone just got owned.

KTM makes a great bike with lots of ponies. No, I'm not some glam racer but a weekend desert rider. My stock 620rxc is a hell of a lot quicker than my uncles Al Baker "built" XR628 which only runs on race gas. If i was to buy a bike my money would be on the 520mxc. But i guess i don't count because i could care less how fast i could be on a track. KTM built the bike that started this whole 4 stroke craze.

One word JackAss:rolleyes:

Originally posted by redline
So now all the sudden you are a SX pro who rides with the best riders in the world on your ktm???
Yes and no. It isn't "all of the sudden" and I don't ride a KTM.

So please stop on by and show me and all the other local pros there how you SX pros ride.
Now you're a local pro? You went from Intermediate to pro-am all the way to pro in a couple posts, you must be good. Anyway if you really were that fast then you would know who I am and you'd shut your pie hole. And, if you're that fast, you'd tell me what days you ride at Elsinore, I know you weren't there yesterday!

Where'd our boy redline run off to:confused:

Originally posted by Mustard Dog
Where'd our boy redline run off to:confused:

To a different BBS where his bullshit is believed.

I hope this little bastard really does ride. C'mon BOY, if your so Godamn good, you shouldn't be affraid to tell me when you ride.

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the evil one. :flipofff2:

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Theres no luv lost in this thread is there? I recently rode a 520exc and all I can say is that fawker is one badass mutha fawker so KTM's got my vote at least as a desert racer, can't really speak for the mx crowd though.

I've heard lots of talk about KTm's being good desert racers but was wondering if they do Baja 1000 racing or is that just Honda and Kawasaki?

Originally posted by Weasel
I've heard lots of talk about KTm's being good desert racers but was wondering if they do Baja 1000 racing or is that just Honda and Kawasaki?

KTM doesn't have a huge effort in the desert, cause they are focusing on motocross and supercross, but they used to do real well in the desert. Kawasaki is no longer supporting Baja races ever since Danny Hamel was killed down there. Honda dominates because they are the only one's "hiring" riders for Baja races, and the XR 650 is almost unstoppable. I only raced one desert race (Baja 2000), and it was on a Honda. That bike had a broken case from mile 50 all the way to the finish (1750 miles later), and I ran it out of oil so many times, but it never even hesitated. Anyway, there was a lot of KTM's down there that did real well.

I think KTM spends more time on the Paris-Dakar desert racing huge hogs, than they do with Baja.

KTM has had the woods crew for years, they just gotta get in with the mx'ers then they will probably be out in Baja more...

Yeah...I know KTM does real well in the woods. I never seem to see any Honda's in the woods though, or doing well. Shane Watts ridies pretty good. I waiting for Honda to update their XR250 before I buy one for woods riding.

i compete in the district 36 enduro series and for a long time the orange of KTM flooded you eye site at the starting line. there's still alot even with the new "high rev 4 stroke" craze going on. the top guys in the series ride all kinds of bikes though. they're just bad a$$ riders and can win on anything.

http://www.ama-d36.org/Standings/2002EndAStandings.html

the first place guy rides a rm 250
2nd he was on ktm i think honda now
3rd he has been changing a lot latley was kawey
4th cr 250
there is one guy on an XR400 that is smoking fast but he hasn't showed this year yet.

Originally posted by hawaii500_1999
the top guys in the series ride all kinds of bikes though. they're just bad a$$ riders and can win on anything.


Exactly.:D

Originally posted by Weasel
I waiting for Honda to update their XR250 before I buy one for woods riding.

That XR 250 is an awsome trail bike. They are simple, and extremely hard to break. When I was hurt I worked for Baja Bound Motorcycle Adventures and I chose that bike over all the other XR's that Honda makes. It was supposed to be the "chick" bike, but it was so nimble, I could rail through the tightest trails. I haven't ridden any other trail or woods bike though. The XR 650 is also a fun bike on the faster trails, but it wieghs more than a wet Anna Nicole Smith. Hmmm, I wouldn't mind trying her out in the woods!

Originally posted by EMIEVEL


That XR 250 is an awsome trail bike. They are simple, and extremely hard to break. When I was hurt I worked for Baja Bound Motorcycle Adventures and I chose that bike over all the other XR's that Honda makes. It was supposed to be the "chick" bike, but it was so nimble, I could rail through the tightest trails. I haven't ridden any other trail or woods bike though. The XR 650 is also a fun bike on the faster trails, but it wieghs more than a wet Anna Nicole Smith. Hmmm, I wouldn't mind trying her out in the woods!

The XR is too slow for my taste. When you get a chance to try a CR 250 set up for woods, or a Katoom XR's or KDX's jump on it. :D Lotsa fun.

yeah.
if you want speed an XR250 is not the bike you want. but they are very nimble and easier to handle than the larger four cycles. i remember riding the con with some friends on their xr600's while i was riding laps around them on my xr250. they kept wanting to take breaks. (cry babies.)

once i rode the con on my cr500. now that was a freaking hand full. but i did it. (i was the cry baby)

i definatley vote and XR 250 for the best rock crawling dirt bike. LOL