: spring rates for coilovers


Bansheestu
08-20-2008, 08:52 PM
I am getting ready to purchase 4 2.5" king coilovers for my tj. I am running a small block chev, turbo 400 to a 3 speed stak. Dana 60 front a 14-bolt rear. The vehicle will be strickly trail use. I am curious what set ups have been successful for you guys. Thanks

Beat95YJ
08-20-2008, 08:57 PM
Buy 2.0's. Nothing you describe requires a "big bore" shock. There is a much better spring selection for the 2.0's.

Also search. This has been beaten to death, resurrected after 3 days and beaten to death again.

Bansheestu
08-20-2008, 09:07 PM
Buy 2.0's. Nothing you describe requires a "big bore" shock. There is a much better spring selection for the 2.0's.

Also search. This has been beaten to death, resurrected after 3 days and beaten to death again.
I am going to stick with the 2.5's. I should have probably clarified that the vehicle will only be used off road. Trails, little bit of mud, and in the sand dunes. I do know that I will also be running a set of 4" travel bumpstops on it too. I have searched quite a bit on here, and there is some info on it scattered here and there, but nothing really that straight up says the spring rates they have tried, and how they felt they performed. I think everybody could take advantage of a post that shared everybodys spring set up and how well they did or did not work for them. Thanks though for the usual waste of everybodys time answer!!

Dookey
08-20-2008, 09:12 PM
I am going to stick with the 2.5's. I should have probably clarified that the vehicle will only be used off road.

You mean... you're going off road with them coilovers?? :shaking:

Thanks though for the usual waste of everybodys time answer!!

WRONG ANSWER. You sir, are wasting space. Thank YOU for the usual waste of time that could have been better used by searching. :rolleyes:

Brink_
08-20-2008, 09:13 PM
Might want to listen to him....he knows a thing or two about shocks

Not to mention you just slapped someone in the face that gave you input based on real world experience. You're not gonna benefit from our experience if that's how you treat our replies. :shaking:

Bansheestu
08-20-2008, 09:22 PM
You mean... you're going off road with them coilovers?? :shaking:



WRONG ANSWER. You sir, are wasting space. Thank YOU for the usual waste of time that could have been better used by searching. :rolleyes:
sorry the offroad part of was a typo. I meant to say that I plan on using the vehicle in the rocks, as well as the sand. I have looked through about 20 posts that I have have found by searching for "coilover" and "spring rate" and every possible combination of those terms. I still have been unable to find any definate answers as to what people like to run, and how it has worked for them. Maybe one of you smart asses could give me a link to one of these millions of posts on here that give me all the answers to my stupid questions? I sure am not having much luck, I would love it if somebody could help me out instead of rattling off how I need to search.

Beat95YJ
08-20-2008, 09:22 PM
I am going to stick with the 2.5's. I should have probably clarified that the vehicle will only be used off road. Trails, little bit of mud, and in the sand dunes. I do know that I will also be running a set of 4" travel bumpstops on it too. I have searched quite a bit on here, and there is some info on it scattered here and there, but nothing really that straight up says the spring rates they have tried, and how they felt they performed. I think everybody could take advantage of a post that shared everybodys spring set up and how well they did or did not work for them. Thanks though for the usual waste of everybodys time answer!!

Unless you are prerunning for extended periods, you have no need for 2.5's. The only thing you will gain is expense, weight and difficulty in packaging. In discussing it with several shock engineers recently even a KOH rig does not need 2.5's unless they are airshocks.

If you would have searched, (hell look for my username in this forum) you would have found the info you are looking for. Dumbass. Get off your high fucking horse and search.

Dookey
08-20-2008, 09:30 PM
Maybe one of you smart asses could give me a link to one of these millions of posts on here that give me all the answers to my stupid questions?


Wrong again.


Here is a little help for you. I searched "coil over" and these are the results I got.

Showing results 1 to 50 of 1659

If you read 20 threads you still have 1639 to go.


When you find one of the other hundred threads exactly like this one do exactly what they did. Call poly performance. They will get you close. If it isn't right then follow along with their spring exchange policy.

Here is the link.

http://polyperformance.com/shop/home.php

here is the number.

805.783.2060.

Can we please sticky this thread now?? :eek::eek:

Bansheestu
08-20-2008, 09:36 PM
Wrong again.


Here is a little help for you. I searched "coil over" and these are the results I got.

Showing results 1 to 50 of 1659

If you read 20 threads you still have 1639 to go.


When you find one of the other hundred threads exactly like this one do exactly what they did. Call poly performance. They will get you close. If it isn't right then follow along with their spring exchange policy.

Here is the link.

http://polyperformance.com/shop/home.php

here is the number.

805.783.2060.

Can we please sticky this thread now?? :eek::eek:
now see finally you peckers give up some useful info. The poly performance suggestion is a great one. And shedding a little light on the fact that 2.0's should be sufficient and why is also a help. Is there anybody else that can chime in with a little useful info? You can make fun of me all you want. Thanks

Dookey
08-20-2008, 09:38 PM
You can make fun of me all you want. Thanks

We don't need your permission.

Bansheestu
08-20-2008, 09:42 PM
We don't need your permission.
by the way pookey, what spring rates you running in that Jalopy?

Dookey
08-20-2008, 09:43 PM
by the way pookey, what spring rates you running in that Jalopy?

search :flipoff2:

Beat95YJ
08-20-2008, 09:54 PM
now see finally you peckers give up some useful info. The poly performance suggestion is a great one. And shedding a little light on the fact that 2.0's should be sufficient and why is also a help. Is there anybody else that can chime in with a little useful info? You can make fun of me all you want. Thanks

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=405914

Bansheestu
08-20-2008, 09:58 PM
yes I like where this is going now. Input, need more input.

Dookey
08-20-2008, 10:00 PM
Input, need more input.


http://www.trossenrobotics.com/images/blogposts/2007/Johnny_5.jpg

peewee
08-21-2008, 04:19 AM
BIG WASTE OF TIME & MONEY buying 2.5's. 2.0 is all you will ever need plus like everyone else said better choice of spring rates and prices are half that of 2.5's. I learned the hard way with 2.5 kings, you will soon find that you need light weight springs that are NOT available in 2.5's. Read BillaVistas long ass articles in the Tech section on Coilovers, good start for you, then Call Polyperformance or King.. and when you ask for advise here on Pirate 4x4 YOU SHOULD LISTEN. It will save you time, money, and heartburn..:)

ItsaCJ6
08-21-2008, 05:05 AM
yes I like where this is going now. Input, need more input.

Dumb Ass,, Dumb Ass,, Need Less Dumb Ass...:flipoff2:

Dodgen
08-21-2008, 04:17 PM
by the way pookey, what spring rates you running in that Jalopy?

Jesus! The link to his build is in his fuckin' sig! Just because I am researching the same thing I took the 5 minutes to go through his thread and find the spring rates....yes they are in there. If you hadn't been such an ass I would tell you what page they were on.

Anybody that won't take the time to search ain't serious about building their rig. They want everything handed to them. Might as well go ahead and take it to a shop and let somebody else put everything together for you too.

BillaVista
08-21-2008, 05:02 PM
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/coilovers/Part_1/

Dis'n Frank on shocks...classic :shaking::laughing:

Dookey
08-21-2008, 05:07 PM
http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/coilovers/Part_1/

No doubt you found that using the search. :laughing::laughing:

kirbyiv
08-21-2008, 05:30 PM
I am getting ready to purchase 4 2.5" king coilovers for my tj. I am running a small block chev, turbo 400 to a 3 speed stak. Dana 60 front a 14-bolt rear. The vehicle will be strickly trail use. I am curious what set ups have been successful for you guys. Thanks

you cant expect an exact answer on spring rates from that info. How long is the shock travel? How much up/down do you want? Are the shocks mounted at any angle, or straight up and down? Are you going to jump the shit out of it, or crawl around slow? And I dont care what you're going to do with it, you do not need 2.5 shocks on a rig with those specs, 2.0's will be fine and like stated before, they are just extra money, weight and size for what you need.

Bansheestu
08-21-2008, 08:46 PM
Thanks for the advise guys, I am really considering going with the 2.0's instead of the 2.5's now. I have found the info I needed by searching. By the way, is there any question that could possibly be asked about a jeep build that couldn't be answered by a few hours of searching?? So from now now should the hard core section only be used for build ups?

Beat95YJ
08-21-2008, 10:17 PM
...I am really considering going with the 2.0's instead of the 2.5's now.

Duh...King will try to talk you into 2.5's, because that is where their volume is.

I have found the info I needed by searching. By the way, is there any question that could possibly be asked about a jeep build that couldn't be answered by a few hours of searching??

Very few. Search first. 90% of the crap you can think up has been covered. I once thought it would be funny to look for a flipped 231 to replace a d300 in a cj. It had been covered.

So from now now should the hard core section only be used for build ups?

No. It is for fabrication, buildups and mechanical swaps that are not typical. Coilovers on a TJ are very common anymore. Coilovers on a stock chassis FC might be a better question as they are way less common.

Oh and next time you get flamed. Look up the users doing it. I will never say I am the leading pirate authority on anything, but I am pretty knowledgeable regarding shocks. I am looking to help you. Don't be dumb.

Bansheestu
08-21-2008, 10:34 PM
Duh...King will try to talk you into 2.5's, because that is where their volume is.



Very few. Search first. 90% of the crap you can think up has been covered. I once thought it would be funny to look for a flipped 231 to replace a d300 in a cj. It had been covered.



No. It is for fabrication, buildups and mechanical swaps that are not typical. Coilovers on a TJ are very common anymore. Coilovers on a stock chassis FC might be a better question as they are way less common.

Oh and next time you get flamed. Look up the users doing it. I will never say I am the leading pirate authority on anything, but I am pretty knowledgeable regarding shocks. I am looking to help you. Don't be dumb.
well I appreciate answers with some sort of logic to back them up. Don't go with 2.5's, go with 2.0's...that is an answer but trying to learn as much as possible, I would love to know the reasons why. I do appreciate the time you have taken to explain a few things and to point me in a direction that I can learn more. I have looked at your build and I must say there is alot I can pick up from it. So I do appreciate you going beyond the typical "search" answer.