i was kind of looking through a magazine and noticed that sammy cases are divorsed, have a 1.3:1 high range and can get 6:1 low range.:eek:

well i was thinking it would be kind of sweet to use one on a toyota. (i know toyota transfer cases are the bomb!) just thinking out loud. you could use a 2 wheel drive tranny and hook it to the transfer case. you could keep the really strong 4.10 gears in the diffs. swap in a gear change in the sammy case and be ready to go. i know lots of fab work and other odd ends and crap. anyone else ever thought about doing this. the sammy guys said the cases are really strong. not as strong as the toyota though.

anyway flame suit is on!

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Why???? get some 4.0 or 4.7 gears. Divorced are a bitch to get set up right to get them vibe free.:confused:

well heres some quick pros and cons:

pros:

high range reduction
really low crawl ratio
can keep strong 4.10 gears

cons:
divorsed transfer case
really long front driveshaft
a little weaker

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Originally posted by r-sparky-h
well heres some quick pros and cons:

cons:

a little weaker



I think that they are more than "a little weaker". You could give it a try, but I think that it would :nuke: Samurais make about 60 hp and weigh 800 pounds less than a Toyota truck. What works on them will not necessarily work on your truck. I like your thinking (don't have to regear, super low t-case gears, can clock the case) but I just do not think that it is stout enough. That said, I haven't even seen one blow up (but I have never seen one in anything but a Sami either ;) ).

i could clock it and then not have to do a drive train lift.

the toyota transfer case is the only thing tht gets hung up on my truck!

i could always keep my tranny and case and put the other stuff together.

sammy cases are gear driven too. hmmmm?:p

i don't know just playing with the idea

those 6:1 cases are noisy, a friend has one, plus they grind a whole lot of metal out of them to put the 6:1 in....I think

sammy cases are weak....... people crack them in half running small v6's...........
also the rear output shaft is passenger side drop...... not centered like your toys..... and the 6:1 gear sets are $900 USD....... use 2 stock toy cases and get close to the same gearing.....

I do like the high range reduction - means a person could keep stock axle gears and run bigger tires...

But the Sami case is IMHO not the way to get there...

Will it ever be possible to get 2wd reduction with a Toy t-case?? That would be nice!

I don't think I'd run a sami t-case in a yota, the 'local' sami guys even say the cases are weak!

i think the coolest thing is the 2 wheel reduction.

but all the fabbing and redoing my driveshafts would really suck!

Originally posted by Tron
Will it ever be possible to get 2wd reduction with a Toy t-case?? That would be nice!

I got that, I put my adapter box in low :D.

Dual cases, Twin-Stick from FROR= 2-wheel drive reduction!!!!:D

Sammy cases are weak, don't go there.:)

I got an '89 4runner with an automatic and basicly I'm screwed for gear reduction, but I have been thinking of running a 23 spline Toyota case with the OTT adapter that makes it divorced to the back of my existing t-case just to run a crawler. Could work, but, seems like alot of trouble though.

I have a friend that has gone through something like 12 sammy transfer cases in his Samuri that only has 31's and lincoln lockers. I really don't think that they will hold up to a larger vehicle. There is a reason why people are making adapters to get rid of them!

I think that it's stupid that Toyota people HAVEN'T figured it out yet! They need to make those gear sets lower in high range too! But I was told they don't for some good reason or another (clearance I think).

The grinding you do to the case for the 6.1 really doesn't affect the strength of the case any, so that really isn't an issue. I agree with the other guys in that the sammy case is too weak for a toy. I've seen them crack in sami's running 35" boggers. Put them in a much heavier truck with larger running gear and tires and I doubt it would last long. The high range reduction is great though.....

I was thinking of using a sammi case in a light weight buggy. Toy 22r/e ? ,2wd tranny, sammi case, stock toy axles, and 34x9.5x15 swampers. With the sammi case you could turn it so that the bottom of the buggy would be flat. I allready have most of the parts including the tube chassis ( midget sprint car )

I'm a sammy guy and its sure that a sammy case is not strong enough to be reliable behind more than 100 hp. It's sure that your strong 4.10 will hold up but not the case. Also the rear output on the samurai is not centered. I would invest in a twin toy case setup and install marlin crawler in one or both.

Originally posted by Clay
I think that it's stupid that Toyota people HAVEN'T figured it out yet! They need to make those gear sets lower in high range too! But I was told they don't for some good reason or another (clearance I think).

Have you ever worked on a Toyota T-case???

My guess is that you haven't, or you are stupid. There is no easy way to do this because the toy case is basically another section of driveshaft in 2WD. The input shaft is linked directly to the output shaft. This is not the case in a Sammy case, obviously. It doesn't have shit to do with clearance. It just isn't possible.

Originally posted by 44Runner


My guess is that you haven't, or you are stupid.

:laughing: That's one way of explaining why it won't work.