We have a new off-road park opening this weekend in Joplin. New trials with nice parking @ a place we call snowball. This is a pay to play deal if you want info post here and we can meet up and run over together. Its not my park but a good freind who has put alot of effort and money in it. Let me know who is in.

Michael

I'm interested, tell me more.

Rich

Are you guys both talking about the same place? That avalanche place sounds cool!

This is why Kansas sucks a$$, I am always hearing you can wheel here wheel there, but 90% of the time its a god damn goat farm, and a bunch of friggin billhillies with hoodscope havin 38in tired el caminos, OK now that that is outta my system, If you have a pay to ride spot, why the fawk doesnt anyone know about it!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you want to make money, casue I wanna wheel and not have to drive for 3 hours (Disney) I will go to Joplin every friggin weekend and gladly pay you or your buddy if you have something worth riding on, Ill also bring my dad,duane,rick,...................... you see were Im heading, you want money we wanna ride, lets do this

were is it exactly

who do we contact

what are the rates and hours

will I be able to roll my rig on something or is it just as flat as the rest of Kansas!

Hear are the details I have J & D Off-Road has leased a place called snowball. As for the drive there is a days worth of trails to do some new ones have been cut since Joey got the lease so no one has run them but the group that cut them. Anyway he is having a grand opening this weekend. You could call417-206-9106 and talk to Joey. He can let you know the cost as well as give dircections. I know there is a group from Texas making the drive so he has some big plans. There is a lot of trails some rocks and last time i was there they had a mud pit. Some of the hills are very steep with stair steps on them. Seen several vehicals roll when they had the wrong line. Give him a call hes a great guy to deal with

Michael

585 Miles from Minneapolis

Note: Looks like I don't read so well...

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Somebody call this guy and tell us where this is.

How far from Minneapolis?

Note: I'm too lazy to pic up the phone.

Originally posted by BensonMN
Somebody call this guy and tell us where this is.

How far from Minneapolis?

Note: I'm too lazy to pic up the phone.
I just called and left a message

Originally posted by TJ99
We have a new off-road park opening this weekend in Joplin. New trials with nice parking @ a place we call snowball.

So thats why the place has been closed down. I used to ride 4-wheelers there and was bummed out when they closed it. I can't wait to check out some of the new trails in my truck.

Originally posted by BensonMN

How far from Minneapolis?



It's Joplin, Missouri. Right where MO, KS, & OK meet (I-44 Southwest of Springfield, MO).

TEX

Originally posted by TEX


It's Joplin, Missouri. Right where MO, KS, & OK meet (I-44 Southwest of Springfield, MO).

TEX
Yeah, it's not to far from Disney actually. I guess if it sucks, Disney is only an hout to an hour and a half away.

Originally posted by TJ99
Hear are the details I have J & D Off-Road has leased a place called snowball.

If anyone makes it out, post some pics and impressions. The Tulsa club has been looking for some new places to go. Besides, Disney's rocks get REAL hot during August. :)

Can the trails handle FULL SIZE trucks? ;)

Originally posted by okcrawler
Can the trails handle FULL SIZE trucks?

Id be willing to bet that it is more like...Can the full size trucks handle the trail?:D

BTW: I think all these offroad parks opening up are friggin GREAT! Fuck the greenies, we dont need no stinkin public lands:D (Well, it would be nice to have both:D)

Ty get some pics and a report of the terrain if your goin, I know there are some mid continent stuck in Kansa$$ people on here, Misery folk to, If I wasnt already leavin town this weekend for a trip, Id drive the 1 hour from my door to get there, I like the sound of that "1 hour from my door" Im used to 2.5 to 3.5 hour from my door! Maybe Id actually get the chance to wheel with some local PBBers!!

What's with all the rumors about Disney being closed. I heard 2 more guys talking about it last night. As far as I know just the area between the Powerlines and the dam is all that is closed. CORRECT?????

How much does Snowball cost and what are the hours, etc. I've rode quads and bikes there in years past.... it shoud be pretty fun and only 1 hour from the house..... :-)

Jason

Close enough to try out even if it sucks! I ready to go! Too bad the truck is scattered won't be ready much if any before Labor Day. Ya'll know how it is go change one little thing the next thing you know your replacing the frame, suspention and roll cage, but heh it'll be about a 1000 pounds lighter. Keep us posted

If Joey is building the trails then they will probably be killer. He did a lot of work to Jason Larman aka YellowCJ's Jeep, the guy who competed at Disney in the Trophy class. And Joey's Jeep is fully decked out with a fi 454, d-60's, etc, etc. From what Jason tells me though, he doesn't like the computer much, so it might be a while before you find info on the web. After seeing the work that he's done on Jason's Jeep, i would highly recommend J&D Offroad to anyone, he does great work. :D

I got a hold of an employee yesterday, and it's $10/day. Then they have weekend, monthly? and yearly options. He didn't have #'s for those yet though. He recommended to just pay for a day, then go from there.

I talked to joe earlier in the week. He is leasing snowball to try to promote it better. The prices he quoted me were:
$20 a day
$35 a month
$250 a year
Also an easy payment plan $50 a year and $10 bucks a trip.

He said it was 250-300acres. Even though it is not much closer to Disney it is still someplace else to go and it is a little closer.

Originally posted by AGGIE_04
If Joey is building the trails then they will probably be killer. He did a lot of work to Jason Larman aka YellowCJ's Jeep, the guy who competed at Disney in the Trophy class. And Joey's Jeep is fully decked out with a fi 454, d-60's, etc, etc. From what Jason tells me though, he doesn't like the computer much, so it might be a while before you find info on the web. After seeing the work that he's done on Jason's Jeep, i would highly recommend J&D Offroad to anyone, he does great work. :D

Not sure he knows what a computer is! He has built some well built rigs. Even his tractor linked bastard works well. Who's Red and white cow TJ-8 is that didn't he do the suspension with that as well.

Directions yet? anyone from here goin down?

It does not sound like they are very well orgainzed yet... $10 to $20 a day....?

So are they going to be open this weekned. Is anyone going.??

I'd be tempted to go down next weekend, but we have a night run at Disney scheduled the 10th.... Which of course Yeller Blazer is supposed to be leading. I don't know how he plans to do that with Yeller scattered all over the place...:rolleyes: :D

That was the info I recieved directly from Joe.
What is steve doin to the blazer now?

Originally posted by inphobic
What is steve doin to the blazer now?

The sawz-all got away from him again... :D

http://www.extreme4wheelin.com/tech/blazer_stretch/P7234555_small.jpg

If the back was not bad enough, he when and sold the front leafs this week. Now he's got the front pulled down (do'in coils) at the same time...

If the front stays the same, he'll be about 126". So, like I said before.... We need room for FULL SIZE trucks on the trails.. :)

Originally posted by TJ99
We have a new off-road park opening this weekend in Joplin. New trials with nice parking @ a place we call snowball. This is a pay to play deal if you want info post here and we can meet up and run over together. Its not my park but a good freind who has put alot of effort and money in it. Let me know who is in.

Michael

Im in whats the scoop?

Not sure he knows what a computer is! He has built some well built rigs. Even his tractor linked bastard works well. Who's Red and white cow TJ-8 is that didn't he do the suspension with that as well.

The Scrangler is owned by Eric Altom I think. He was in the trophy class at Disney, too. I'm sure Joey did some work to it b/c the are pretty good friends from what I can tell.

The Scrangler is owned and built by John Loyd. And least if you're talking about a red and yellow YJ with a stainless steel rollcage...

I believe he also built that red and white cow TJ... He's a member of my club and was also at camp jeep...

http://community.webshots.com/photo/42873482/42878176ryXgIE

or

http://community.webshots.com/photo/42873482/42880479ULONib

JParuBob

btt for today

Price List:
Trucks and Jeeps
$20/day
$35/month
$250/year
or $50/year with $10/day.

ATV's and Dirtbikes:
$20
$35/month
$175/year for 1 or
$250/year for 4

We have cut out a lot of new trails for all of you that have been there in the past.

With a yearly membership, you have a key to the place to go anytime you want.

All vehicles must be tagged and have current insurance.

We will be holding trail rides just about every weekend.

Four wheelers, Dirtbikes, Dune Buggies, and everyone else is also invited to come out.

300 acres doesn't sound very big, but this place is very dense with trails. There is a couple of creeks running through the place.

It is at the North end of Schifferdecker RD.

We hope to see a lot of people out there!

If you see a 78 Jeep J20 pickup with 38's and D60's say what's up.


We had a lot of fun out there this weekend. I didn't see any of you out there. Yes, we are trusting people with a key to not bring anyone else, but I imagine that Joey reserves the right to revoke a person's membership for crap like that. I think that people paying $250 a year will be serious enough to keep the place open. The only way for us to keep it open is to make Joey enough money to cover the expense of running it. Lease, insurance, time spent, Etc. J&D off-road members will be out there just about every weekend and even some weekdays. If you have questions on when we'll be there, or where you can send a check to call Joe Walker at 417-206-9106

i'm not sure if you've thought of this, but with giving people keys, make sure that one of their friends doesn't make a duplicate...

JParuBob

BTT

So did anyone go this past weekend?? What was it like, worth the trip, or is it better to just head to Disney? I see the prices went up from what the guy told me on the phone :D I'd like to get there in the next few weekends.

Directions? anyone been there have directions, I was down by Joplin this weekend (went to Noll for a canoe trip) If this thing is goin to make any money it better get organized, damn another what 45min-hour and you can hit Disney, and its only like 15 bucks (I was fairly intoxicated when we paid that could be wrong) a day to wheel and camp!! We are planning a wheelin trip on the 24th of this week and Joplin has been mentioned, but no one knows were at in Joplin it is, and if its worth the effort, Get some pics, some directions, hook it up, make it easy for people to plan there trip!!! were goin to hit either Manhattan (again :rolleyes: ) or try Joplin, just need a little assurance its worth the trip!!!! You have any trail maps? First time I went to Manhattan We ran around all day tryin to find the "rock garden", never did, then found out it was like 50 feet from were we parked the trailer!!!

If a bring a digi camera, take pics and pimp your spot, can I ride free(to include two rigs)? seems alot of people locally are talkin about Joplin, but noone outside of the locals know whats up!!!

Originally posted by pdaddy
First time I went to Manhattan We ran around all day tryin to find the "rock garden", never did, then found out it was like 50 feet from were we parked the trailer!!!
LOL, same thing happened to us last month. I'm heading to Tuttle to meet up with some SD and NE folks this Sunday. Then I want to hit this Joplin deal before the month is over. I agree, give us a bone, and you'll get all sorts of folks from the KC area coming down. :D

We're also planning a trip the 24th if I get my junk back together. Let me know and we can make plans to meet up. Mights as well try snowball and see how it goes. I don't care if it sucks it's still something different. Jake


What's up there Jbrooks? I'm assumin that's you. with jeep truck havin no beddin frame shorten red neck mobile! This is jake with the orange bronc. Later

Originally posted by inphobic
We're also planning a trip the 24th if I get my junk back together. Let me know and we can make plans to meet up. Mights as well try snowball and see how it goes. I don't care if it sucks it's still something different. Jake


What's up there Jbrooks? I'm assumin that's you. with jeep truck havin no beddin frame shorten red neck mobile! This is jake with the orange bronc. Later

PM'ed ya

Somebody needs to get out to this place and take some pics for the rest of us to see.

As to the "key" thing for yearly membership, a local group tried that years ago and it failed. Give out keys and the owner loses all control of the area. My two cents.

Where are those pics?

Originally posted by pdaddy


PM'ed ya

Pm'ed YOU :flipoff2:

Originally posted by inphobic
We're also planning a trip the 24th if I get my junk back together.

Jake, drop me a line if you are going to go. I'd like to get out of the house and would love to hook up with you guys for a day... I can probably talk a few others into coming, if ya don't mind a little Okie company.. :)

pics:http://www.jdorv.com


More pics: http://www.extreme4wheelin.com/images/joplin_2002/pictures.htm

The blue jeep owned by joe was at hot springs in the superlift orv park a couple weeks ago and is very capable.The J&D PARK looks like alota fun.How far from memphis would this park be?

Originally posted by RKCRAWLER
The blue jeep owned by joe was at hot springs in the superlift orv park a couple weeks ago and is very capable.The J&D PARK looks like alota fun.How far from memphis would this park be?
Starting from: Memphis, TN
Arriving at: Joplin, MO
Distance: 549.7 miles Approximate Travel Time: 8 hours 27 mins

Long haul IMO.

Originally posted by Bones

Starting from: Memphis, TN
Arriving at: Joplin, MO
Distance: 549.7 miles Approximate Travel Time: 8 hours 27 mins

Long haul IMO. It takes me that long to get to Tellico. Would be worth the drive if this new park had some quality hardcore trails.

I hope I have the time to get there before the snow falls now. I thougt I'd make it there in Sept. for sure. Not gonna happen now. :D

As the webmaster for www.jdorv.com I just completed the site, it now has directions, fees, rules, pictures and even a satellite view of the park with some of the "obstacles" etc. mapped out. Going there today (09/07/02) to get some more pictures, there are a lot of 4x4's there already this am.

There are future plans for meets as soon as they get it established.

I've been going to Snowball for about 20 years 15 of them in my Suzuki LJ10 until they closed it down. Everybody around here is relieved that Joey has opened it up, very much worth the money.

CJ


BTW, Whats up jbrooks86? See you there...

Originally posted by RKCRAWLER
It takes me that long to get to Tellico. Would be worth the drive if this new park had some quality hardcore trails.
Joey, are you planning on going to Tellico for Fall Crawl Oct 18-20? I know Ian is (almost certianly) going to go... and I'm trying VERY hard to get a set of crawler gears in and the bed bobbed before then... but I'm going no matter what.

I finally found a buddy with a Cummins who doesn't mind doing a little towing if he gets to ride along. :D

My house to Memphis- 4.5-5 hrs, My house to Joplin park- 1-1.5 hrs. Throwout the amount you've got going out of the way to my house- 6hrs.

Rkcrawler- let me knowwhen you want to do it- I'll meet you there.