: 48 willys jeep


93chevy4x4
09-03-2008, 08:08 PM
I just got a 1948 willys cj2a jeep. I know it is geared incredibly low right now, but I am wanting to lift it and run a 35 possibly. What axles would you suggest using? and how hard will it be to do?

thanks

Juztyn00
09-03-2008, 08:21 PM
What would you suggest using? and how hard will it be to do?



The search function and your eyes... probably not hard at all. all your answers are here, you just have to ask the right questions.

93chevy4x4
09-03-2008, 08:30 PM
i know I can search, im just not sure exactly what to search for. new to the site man! any help would be nice lol

Juztyn00
09-03-2008, 08:33 PM
i know I can search, im just not sure exactly what to search for. new to the site man! any help would be nice lol

start with the faq threads.... work up from there.

93chevy4x4
09-03-2008, 08:39 PM
will do, thanks alot for the help man!

jpfrk2001
09-03-2008, 08:56 PM
You could run a set of 1/2 ton axles and be good to go on a light rig with 35's. Typicall dana 44 front and a rear 44 or 8.8 or 9" would work. How hard? How good are you at fabrication? Just get the axles, a welder, some good metal with tools and have fun. This is no bolt on. But some of us are hear to chear you on in a positive way.

93chevy4x4
09-03-2008, 08:58 PM
thanks again for the input. We just bought a ranch and their is an olddddddd wagoneer I believe it is and the axles are still under it. Would they work? next question is are they good axles for up to 35s?

y2knole
09-04-2008, 08:53 AM
thanks again for the input. We just bought a ranch and their is an olddddddd wagoneer I believe it is and the axles are still under it. Would they work? next question is are they good axles for up to 35s?

again, search.

but I'll throw you a bone...waggy axles should be a good basis.

runemuck
09-04-2008, 09:14 AM
You got a willy's and waggy axles..you are my new idle

TechJeeper
09-04-2008, 12:29 PM
Last time i looked under my 2A both pumpkins were on the passenger side make sure you can actually use the axles. I know that most if not all the waggys I have ever seen are drive side front axles and center rear axles. Look and do some good searching before you dive to deep.

Narrow track Dana 30s out of later model cj5's I believe are good upgrades if you don't get carried away with tire size and to get away from the closed knuckle D25/27 under it now. The rear is either a D41 or D44 that probably has two piece axles so good luck replacing that quadratrac cj7s had offset rear axles i believe.

Another answer, sometimes frowned upon idea, is offset toyota axles. I'm not sure what they come out of but check into fj40s, fj60s, and fj80s on the toyota section.(use the advanced search to narrow the area you are looking in.

And remember doing it your self is great but find as many answers to questions as you can by searching when it comes to axle swap there are only 1000 theads about it here.

My 2A has 33x9.50s and at stock wheelbase it works great with no lift. Its a good size but discontinued you can still get 33x10.50 though in the bfg all terrain.

To fit 35s can be done with out too much but you won't like it unless you add
1. offset wheels/wider axles
2. bigger axles
3. power steering
4. and lower gears(which you my be able to do on stock axles) or using D44/or a bigger engine

My opinions on the subject. I've been a member here a little while but I have been into jeeps for the last 1/3 of my life about 7 years ( I'm a young un')

51 Jeep Willys
09-04-2008, 04:21 PM
[QUOTE=TechJeeper;8680261]Last time i looked under my 2A both pumpkins were on the passenger side make sure you can actually use the axles. I know that most if not all the waggys I have ever seen are drive side front axles and center rear axles. Look and do some good searching before you dive to deep.QUOTE]



if i remember right my 47 willys the front pumpkin is a pass drop and the rear is a center. And every waggy ive seen are both pass drops. But i could be wrong.

jduck
09-04-2008, 04:35 PM
You are both correct there are driver and passanger drop waggy axles. Look for some out of a quadracrap wag. it will have pass front and an offset rear axle that lines up pretty well with a D18.

51 Jeep Willys
09-04-2008, 04:38 PM
You are both correct there are driver and passanger drop waggy axles. Look for some out of a quadracrap wag. it will have pass front and an offset rear axle that lines up pretty well with a D18.



hell i didnt know that, i thought they were all pass drops. cool, nice to know that

jduck
09-04-2008, 06:25 PM
hell i didnt know that, i thought they were all pass drops. cool, nice to know that

http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/Dana44_3.htm

post 80 wags were driver drop

jpfrk2001
09-04-2008, 07:04 PM
hell i didnt know that, i thought they were all pass drops. cool, nice to know that


Yeap, I think they changed it up in 1980. Hell, I had a front D44 in my YJ that bolted right in, including the factory SUA from the donor 1983 Jeep J-20:smokin: To bad it couldn't keep up with 40's w/5.38's and a locker:eek:

MonsterSeven
09-04-2008, 07:53 PM
i guess i will take it upon myself to start the help...
what is this rig going to be used for? off road only, weekend warrior, street, strip, sand, mud, rocks...tell us what your intentions are with your new flatty and this will help us help you.
depending on whether your axles are both offset or not is a good start. you either have a dana 18 or dana 20 Tcase. both have the texas bolt pattern and passenger front axle drop, but the 20 has a centered rear, while the 18 are both offset to the pass side. quadratrac Jeeps used offset front and rear axles, and the QT Tcase will also bolt up to your transmission.
take a look at the axles under your waggy and report back here if they match your current setup. waggy dana 44s are plenty stout for your rig, and even if it has an amc20 rear, it is still stronger than the CJ amc20.
the front leaf springs on the waggy have an offset center pin. using these springs under your rig will gain you wheel base. and if you dont plan on using them, PM me some pics and i might buy them from you.

93chevy4x4
09-04-2008, 09:20 PM
I plan on just using it for mainly mild mud, occassional fairly decent mud. I mainly want it to be very functional. I want something that with a 33"-35" swamper it will be reliable and not snap something or tear to peices immediately. I know nothing is bullet proof, but the jeep is mainly a toy that I can take my son out in with me and have a good time and a little fun. I had a '48 willys a few years back and all i did was sprung it over and was running 33" swampers and it was very good in the mud. Of course i couldnt go through things that 40s went through but it was fun.
Going to the ranch this weekend so I will check the waggy out and get an idea of what axles are under it and try and get some pics.

TechJeeper
09-05-2008, 06:39 AM
That is good to know about the waggy axles. Everyone that i know that has one or axles out of one are driver drop and bolted them in a YJ. I may now be on the hunt for a set my self that match. This thread has turned out pretty helpful for me too.

Don't discount the toyota axle idea I have seen those things hold up to some serious abuse. They are definitely an option for mine when things start exploding. They are also affordable. There is a thread on pirate about a guy putting them on a flatty but I can't seem to find it any more.

93chevy4x4
09-05-2008, 03:23 PM
this is my old jeep with 35" at/s i got for free before i put 33" swampers on it. Sprung over and 2" shackles
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u299/forrestgh01/jeep.jpg

93chevy4x4
09-05-2008, 04:04 PM
heres the new jeep project...
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u299/forrestgh01/1948willys002.jpg
http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u299/forrestgh01/1948willys001.jpg