: 02 2500HD brakes
jsawduste 09-04-2008, 07:53 PM Did a serach but did not come up with anything but the rusted out rotors.
My 02 2500HD has never really had what I would call great brakes. Adeuqute but not great.
Fronts are fresh (10,000 miles) with new rotors and Bendix (I think) pads.
Rears have been replaced say 30,000 ago with rotors and I think Wagner pads.
A quick check of the front rotors shows everything thing seems fine. The rear rotors are starting to show a bit of dish on the rub area. As compared to the outer lip. At low speed you can hear them howl a bit under light pedal.
So, slotted/vented rotors ? Different pads ? Bowflex for the left leg ?
Yes I am a two foot driver.:flipoff2:
GMCTruxrule 09-04-2008, 11:04 PM Yes I am too.
Considering that the rear brakes account for only 40% at most of the total braking power of the vehicle, spending the money to upgrade to slotted and vented rotors wouldn't be my first suggestion unless your bank account is well furnished, and/or you do alot of towing.
If the rotors are getting worn, getting them turned will restore a flat surface for optimum braking.
jsawduste 09-05-2008, 06:01 AM Yes I am too.
Considering that the rear brakes account for only 40% at most of the total braking power of the vehicle, spending the money to upgrade to slotted and vented rotors wouldn't be my first suggestion unless your bank account is well furnished, and/or you do alot of towing.
If the rotors are getting worn, getting them turned will restore a flat surface for optimum braking.
Fully agree with the rear rotor. Was more thinking of a stickier brake pad all around with a light cutting to freshen up the rotor surface(s).
CtChevy 09-05-2008, 09:10 AM the reason the rears are wearing like that is the pads the more aggrisive pad that you use the more the rotor will wear, they make the pads harder to get better life out of them but they eat up the rotors. So its a compromise, get better pad that will last longer and stop better and change your rotors more offen or stay with a less agressive pad and change pads more offen. but like GMCtruxrule said it depends on what you are doin with the truck. I like ebc they make some pretty good stuff and from what i have seen with them on some cars, they work great. slotted rotors are good drilled ones arent the greatest because they crack around the holes. but any up grade in rotors will help but will be expencive.
jsawduste 09-05-2008, 10:23 AM the reason the rears are wearing like that is the pads the more aggrisive pad that you use the more the rotor will wear, they make the pads harder to get better life out of them but they eat up the rotors. So its a compromise, get better pad that will last longer and stop better and change your rotors more offen or stay with a less agressive pad and change pads more offen. but like GMCtruxrule said it depends on what you are doin with the truck. I like ebc they make some pretty good stuff and from what i have seen with them on some cars, they work great. slotted rotors are good drilled ones arent the greatest because they crack around the holes. but any up grade in rotors will help but will be expencive.
Thanks for the help.
This is my DD and Jeep on a trailer tow rig.
The fronts went almost a 100,000 and the rears about 70,000. Before the rotors were rusted/worn out.
Be happy to cut my mileage a bit for better braking power. Ceramic pads maybe ? Some kind of fleet pad ? EBC makes different flavors. Anyone comment on them ?
terryd 09-05-2008, 10:51 AM I've changed over to ceramic on all my vehicles. They do excelent in stopping and don't produce any (visable) dust. I've never tested to see how much they improve stopping as far as distance or anything, but between my Camaro with them and the one w/o them, there is a noticeable lack of brake fade on the one with them. I haven't had to change pads on the one w/o them yet, and am not in a position at the moment to spend money I don't need to. I drive the one with ceramics very hard, as it was built to beat on.
jsawduste 09-05-2008, 12:16 PM My thoughts here are to do a light skim on the rotors and replace the pads.
While they might not be worn out. I feel it is cheap insurance to have brakes that I can count on. More so that my daughter will be soon getting her license.
The Jeep is set up with hyroboost from a 1 ton diesel. 4 wheel discs and an adjustable prop valve. That sucker has BRAKES.
woodchuck2 09-06-2008, 07:55 AM I dont know where your from or what kind of weather conditions you have but here the road salt in the winter plays hell with the brackets and pads. Damn things rust right up causing the pads calipers/pads to stick, improper wear and warps the rotors. My HD just hit 65k and now has some rotor warpage but the pads are in good condition. Problem is the rear pads are only making about 50% contact so the rotors and pads will need to be scrapped.
Frequent dis-assembly, cleaning of rust and lubing is the only answer to making the pads/rotors last longer.
jsawduste 09-07-2008, 06:43 AM I dont know where your from or what kind of weather conditions you have but here the road salt in the winter plays hell with the brackets and pads. Damn things rust right up causing the pads calipers/pads to stick, improper wear and warps the rotors. My HD just hit 65k and now has some rotor warpage but the pads are in good condition. Problem is the rear pads are only making about 50% contact so the rotors and pads will need to be scrapped.
Frequent dis-assembly, cleaning of rust and lubing is the only answer to making the pads/rotors last longer.
Woodchuck, you are right on the money. Michigan, just north of Detroit. Where they sometimes spread salt deeper then the snow.
The rears ended up as you describe. Partial contact on the face and a stuck caliper on the back side. Which ate the rotor.
Now I have been taking things apart and cleaning/lubing to avoid such an issue again.
Mind you the truck stops fairly well. I had a chance to test that last night. Dang ricers with phones glued to there ears. Just that fade sets in fairy quickly and the brakes just do not seem as confidence inspiring as the ones on the Jeep.
Pretty sure that with the right set of pads and routine maintenance. They will live, perform and last a long time.
What is the right set of pads ??
koolk10 09-07-2008, 06:20 PM when you take the pads out make sure to remove the rust from under the tin.thats a big problem area.i would suggest ceramic pads.i also live in rust land and take apart my brakes once a year to keep a good pedal.
Crank 09-13-2008, 06:21 PM Another good tip to increasing your breaking would be to flush the fluid from your power steering pump and go with new synthetic fluid... really stiffens that pedal right up
Brandon
just4cuz 09-14-2008, 02:14 PM Raybestos Quiet stop is a ceramic pad. Rotors today are so crappy that if you use semi-metallic pads, you'll need rotors too when it's time to replace the brakes. Pisses me off, hard to find good rotors anymore! So I use the ceramic ones and the rotors usually last through 2 sets of pads.
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