: running hummer wheels backwards?


offroadr35
08-02-2002, 05:57 AM
this came up in another thread but not many chimed in about it. Do any of you run hummer rims backwards so as to get less backspacing? Are there any problems with this? Anyone have pics?

-Steve

bigdude
08-02-2002, 06:06 AM
:smokin:

DRM
08-02-2002, 06:32 AM
There's a guy here locally that runs either the front or rear reversed on his 1 ton Cherokee.... Kinda kooky looking, but he seems to be happy with them...

rockbiter
08-02-2002, 06:56 AM
i was wondering the same thing....will the lug holes have to be machined out inorder to allow the lug nut to center seat the wheel???? and if you do that is there enough structural integrity left??? come awn ..someone else has to have some info on this..my wheels are arriving next week....:flipoff2:

offroadr35
08-02-2002, 09:54 AM
btt

lizard
08-02-2002, 02:57 PM
Ok you want a reply here's a reply :flipoff2:

SOUNDS LIKE A STUPID IDEA 'SPECIALLY IF THE DAMN THINGS USE ACORN NUTS

'zard 2002

larryboy
08-02-2002, 04:31 PM
lizard you are a DUMBASS take your worthless comments somewhere else!!!!!!:rolleyes: :mad: .

i have been thinking the same thing. if i land a dually 60 front i could run the fronts regular style.and on the 70 rear i could flip em over.

might be better to just change the backspacing,ie;cut out the centers and weld them back in at the proper backspacing.

lizard
08-02-2002, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by larryboy
lizard you are a DUMBASS take your worthless comments somewhere else!!!!!!:rolleyes: :mad: .

i have been thinking the same thing. if i land a dually 60 front i could run the fronts regular style.and on the 70 rear i could flip em over.

might be better to just change the backspacing,ie;cut out the centers and weld them back in at the proper backspacing.


Ahem! Excuse me! Cough! Cough! Let me try again.

Acorn nut mounted wheels rely on a tapered nut to center and align the wheel. If hummer wheels use acorn nuts then reversing the wheels will severly weaken the mounting point and lead to early stud failure. I agree it would be a quick fix to make these wheels work on standard axles however the safety of the vehicle would be severly compromised!

IMNSHO! :flipoff2:

'zard 2002

road1will
08-02-2002, 06:47 PM
why? do you feel like having to replace your wheelbearings everyother weekend? IMO stupid idea. way too much stress on the bearings, and the wheel wasnt designed to run that way. also, unless you have full hydro, steering is going to be a bitch!

not to mention you will be WIIIIIIIIIIIDE, like 90".

350 Samurai
08-02-2002, 07:29 PM
not to mention you will be WIIIIIIIIIIIDE, like 90".

Oh yeah, like that's a bad thing! :flipoff2:

road1will
08-02-2002, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by 350Samurai


Oh yeah, like that's a bad thing! :flipoff2:

well i dunno about you but where i wheel the trees are narrow!

DRM
08-02-2002, 08:25 PM
I wish some of you who don;t have a clue about what you are talking about would just shut up and let those of us with actual information handle this post.

Anyway....



Here is a pic of the guy who runs them reversed locally. You can see in the pic that the fronts are run like they are supposed to, but the rears are being run flipped the other way around. I *think* recall that this is done because he is running a dually front 60 and dually (narrow) rear axle...

http://www.wheelininthecountry.com/img/General/set1-21.jpg

DRM
08-02-2002, 08:28 PM
Found another better one...

http://www.wheelininthecountry.com/img/02-23-02/02-23-02-ride-04.jpg

MattS
08-02-2002, 08:51 PM
I just went to the garage and looked JUST for David. :flipoff2:

They use acorn nuts, the front side of the lug holes is beveled for them. The rear is NOT. Plus the rear has a flat mounting surface and the front does NOT. So if this guys is running them backwords he's either modded them or has rigged them some other way.

IMHO not a good idea for several reasons. Do it right or don't do it at all. For safety sake at least.

DRM
08-02-2002, 09:00 PM
Thanks Matt... I don;t know how he did it, I just was showing that is CAN be done.... and when I asked him about it he said he had never had a problem running them that way...

rockbiter
08-02-2002, 09:10 PM
to combat the offset of running a dually 60 front with a regular 60 in the rear...i am running 39.5x18 boggers in the rear and 39.5x15 TSL's in the front ... pretty close to the same width now.(not that it really bothered me )..works for me..plus the thinner tire in the front makes steering alot easier...
my 2 cents...

larryboy
08-02-2002, 09:52 PM
DRM,those pics show what i was trying to say. thanks

what about flipping the wheel over and using the flat dually style lug nutz?

unimogken
08-03-2002, 09:18 AM
Instead of running them backwards why don't you just get a set and have the centers cut out and have them welded at the backspacing you need? Sounds like a good idea to me.

Later

offroadr35
08-03-2002, 09:30 AM
Originally posted by unimogken
Instead of running them backwards why don't you just get a set and have the centers cut out and have them welded at the backspacing you need? Sounds like a good idea to me.

Later

$$$

fcfred
08-03-2002, 10:10 AM
why not use long studs, screw on the beveled lugnutz first with the bevel out, slap on the wheel, and then put on the flat lugnutz on the outside? It seems a bit butch, but it should be easier than drilling anything if the studs are long enough, though I wouldn't want to cruise down the highway for long set up like that, but that's cuz I worry alot:D

lizard
08-03-2002, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by fcfred
why not use long studs, screw on the beveled lugnutz first with the bevel out, slap on the wheel, and then put on the flat lugnutz on the outside? It seems a bit butch, but it should be easier than drilling anything if the studs are long enough, though I wouldn't want to cruise down the highway for long set up like that, but that's cuz I worry alot:D


ROTFLMAO!!!!

That's why I love this board...

'zard 2002

lhor-dude
08-03-2002, 10:46 AM
$50 per wheel and you cut and weld your self:

http://4wdfactory.homestead.com/humrim.html

offroadr35
08-03-2002, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by lhor-dude
$50 per wheel and you cut and weld your self:

http://4wdfactory.homestead.com/humrim.html

right that's 200 right there. Plus the cutting and welding is not such easy work. Not to mention i would not trust myself doing that with my limited welding experience.

-Steve

vova
08-03-2002, 02:09 PM
66CJDEAN (Dean) on this BB will do it for $100 a wheel. You choose the BS :D

offroadr35
08-03-2002, 02:24 PM
Originally posted by vova
66CJDEAN (Dean) on this BB will do it for $100 a wheel. You choose the BS :D

yeah, same with daniel, i just don't know if i can justify spending 200 per wheel for hummer wheels. For another 30 or so i could just get brand new beadlock wheels.

-Steve

rkcrawl
08-03-2002, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by offroadr35


yeah, same with daniel, i just don't know if i can justify spending 200 per wheel for hummer wheels. For another 30 or so i could just get brand new beadlock wheels.

-Steve

You can get new beadlocks for a lot less then $230 per wheel. Just depends on whose locks you want.

offroadr35
08-03-2002, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by rkcrawl


You can get new beadlocks for a lot less then $230 per wheel. Just depends on whose locks you want.

not too many companies make 16.5s and those that do are pretty expensive. if my wheels weren't pretty trashed i'd just get some rockstomper rings. Anyone know if Trailready has fixed their delivery problems?

-Steve

unimogken
08-03-2002, 05:29 PM
Ok, so pour tons of money into your trail rig and skimp on the wheels.

Not saying things will break on the trail.... but I wouldn't want to go wheeling by myself if I cheesed out on parts.

Later.

vova
08-03-2002, 10:29 PM
Originally posted by offroadr35


yeah, same with daniel, i just don't know if i can justify spending 200 per wheel for hummer wheels. For another 30 or so i could just get brand new beadlock wheels.

-Steve
With the Hummer wheels you're getting a runflat so even if you slash a tire you can get off the trail.
You are also getting a double beadlock. I know with the 16.5's the inside bead can also come off easly.

livermore2
08-03-2002, 11:46 PM
i run them backwards on Dana 70 front and rear. no problems yet and it puts me at 96". and its free. so i have more money for beer.

lizard
08-04-2002, 10:45 AM
Originally posted by mossberg
i run them backwards on Dana 70 front and rear. no problems yet and it puts me at 96". and its free. so i have more money for beer.

Right on! Pull a lugnut and let us see some close up shots! I for one am curious :)

dmeis
08-10-2002, 08:25 PM
offroadr35,

Call Scott at Rockstomper soon. He is making some inserts for my hummer rims and might have some let for another set.

David