also posted in Chat & Land Use

So while discussing how to improve participation in the Land Use forum I proposed a t-shirt give-away and offered $50 towards the creation of said shirts. We found a place for $9 for decent shirts and one color print. Now we just need designs and input as to wether we should sell them and donate the proceeds to BRC or just give them away monthly like the driveline giveaway for participation in the Land use forum.

I was thinking "International Trail Guards" or something like that.
putting BRC and any other sponsors we could find on the back .

What do you think? Would you buy one? Would it get you to participate in the Land Use Board?

Need Design input.

Thanks
Brian

I think its a good idea to get people involved. I also think that its more important to get people involved with the issues than to get them posting in land use. but if getting people to post in land use also gets them involved in meetings and petitions its all good.

Dallas

Why not do both Brian??

Sell the shirts for a set price with all profit going to the BRC. And offer up a free shirt every month, or every three months for active participants in the land use forum. You know posting links, letter examples, organizing rally's and meetings.

Best of both worlds. I know I would be a bunch of shirts, then I could make that my offical "wheeling shirt"

OH yeah, what would it take to be a sponsor??

Originally posted by GloNDark
Why not do both Brian??

OH yeah, what would it take to be a sponsor??

Don't know that just yet. I was thinking $200 or so. I haven't contacted anyone yet and gotten a feel for the sponsorship level.

Originally posted by rokryder


Don't know that just yet. I was thinking $200 or so. I haven't contacted anyone yet and gotten a feel for the sponsorship level.

Could clubs raise that (or more!) and be recognized as a sponsor?

Clubs, churches, vinyards - whatever


Whomever wants to help out.

$200 makes it out of reach of little guys like Crowley Offroad (http://www.crowley-offroad.com).
:(

Jon

Originally posted by Crowdog
$200 makes it out of reach of little guys like Crowley Offroad (http://www.crowley-offroad.com).
:(

Jon



Jon - Maybe sponsors could also donate time. like the time it takes to admin the giveaways and such.

Again these are just ideas to spread the word and I am open to suggestions.

IMHO, the real complexity to this is ordering, fulfillment and delivery...

Doing the design is fairly easy (hint: use only a few opinions on the design -- deciding by committee SUCKS because of variances in personal taste). Heck, finding a t-shirt/sticker vendor is easy enough, too, and finding someone to front the bucks isn't that hard, nor is throwing up an internet form to help generate orders... the truely complex part is taking the cash, synching that with the order, and shipping it out. Online credit card processing makes this a little easier, but it is still a load of work.

Be sure to get bids up front so that you can set a price that covers the costs fairly -- otherwise you may find yourself giving money away on each shirt. A good tee-shirt can be silkscreened with a simple one- or two-color design for well under ten bucks (obviously, higher volumes lower that price), but shipping is going to run you 2-3 bucks per parcel (and tracking different shipping for different parcels ramps up the complexity, so I recommend a flat per-piece ship rate). Packaging adds to that... and if you are paying someone to do all of these things, you're looking at a base price of $15 per shirt beforeany profit can be made for your cause....

One more hint: minimize the number of sizes, colors, and types of items. Each additional level of complexity invites errors and adds to your management overhead. Tracking 9 mediums, 18 larges, 25 XLs, and 17 XXLs is one thing, tracking t-shirts (3 mediums, 8 larges, 13 XLs, and 8 XXLs in blue as well as 5 mediums, 8 larges, 10 XLs, and 7 XXLs in grey), AND sweatshirts (1 mediums, 2 larges, 2 XLs, and 2 XXLs) is another thing altogether. Start simple, and get a feel for it before you go complicated... the complication factor rises at a near-exponential rate.

Note: the prices mentioned here are ballparks, and I don't do this professionally -- it is just that many of my hobbies have wound up requiring shirts and promotional gear. If anyone wants to talk with me further about this, email me: randii@4x4wire.com and we'll chat by phone... I may be able to help further.

Randii