The most important date to be set on your calendar is
September 20th-21st

The extremely anticipated seminar on
"HOW TO BEAT JOHN JAMES"
will begin promptly at 9am at Cougar Buttes at the Pro ROCK Series Finals

Hobie Smith
http://www.we-rock.cc/images/teams/00214_d.jpg?5240
will be making an appearance with his own national championship ftoy and will walk all participants course by course and discuss the ways to beat John James. This will be the most vital event that you will attend for 2008. Be There!

I have been invited as a key note speaker to assist in this training seminar. I will be driving the Championship Winning Trail-Gear F-toy and using it to demonstrate proven strategies on how to beat John James.

I see your trying it again. It didn't work last year. Maybe you got some more tricks up your sleeve this time.

Good luck with that :flipoff2:

I see your trying it again. It didn't work last year. Maybe you got some more tricks up your sleeve this time.

Good luck with that :flipoff2:

What is "IT"? Explain?????

What is "IT"? Explain?????

Hobie's first "How to Beat John James" Seminar.

Hobie's first "How to Beat John James" Seminar.

Gotcha.......this time it's for real though. I hope your going to bring your "A" game......we are both coming after YOU!:D:smokin::D

Matt

Matt/Hobie You guys should spot for each other. Gives you more course time.:D

This should be a great comp.good to have you back !::D F-toy 35

Matt/Hobie You guys should spot for each other. Gives you more course time.:D


So you are admitting that as an advantage.:flipoff2::flipoff2:

I might just have to dust the cob webs off the rv and come out to see this!

I bet John is so confident, he'll put the pro rock season championship jacket on the line, with a one event winner take all!

You guys gotta raise the stakes on this one...............

:stirthepot::stirthepot:

I might just have to dust the cob webs off the rv and come out to see this!

I bet John is so confident, he'll put the pro rock season championship jacket on the line, with a one event winner take all!

You guys gotta raise the stakes on this one...............

:stirthepot::stirthepot:







Sean, c'mon out. I'm not competing so you I can hang out and manage the "Side Bets". I might put money on this one.:laughing:

i Might Just Have To Dust The Cob Webs Off The Rv And Come Out To See This!

I Bet John Is So Confident, He'll Put The Pro Rock Season Championship Jacket On The Line, With A One Event Winner Take All!

You Guys Gotta Raise The Stakes On This One...............

:stirthepot::stirthepot:

It's Fully On!

I'm in!

Will lunch be served, or perhaps a continental breakfast?

So you are admitting that as an advantage.:flipoff2::flipoff2:

I knew that would get your attention :flipoff2:

I bet John is so confident, he'll put the pro rock season championship jacket on the line, with a one event winner take all!

i like that one. how about it john?

Anyone willing to film this? :smokin:

It would make some great FToy promotional material--put it up on YouTube!! :grinpimp:

Wow! Wish I was going now!

SOUNDS LIKE JOHN HAS A BIG TARGET ON HIS BACK!!!::smokin:
F-TOY 35 READY FOR COMP.

John has won a lot he and MD are some of the best out there as are Matt and Hobie. But face it guys look behind you. All of you better bring your A game cause if you don't if you make one mistake there is a line of people waiting to rollover you and not look back:flipoff2:


PS Sean it would be great to see you out there William to if hes up for it. and of course Jill and Jay:D

I just got back from the Marlin Roundup on the Rubicon. We had a great time.
I still have to unload the rig and prep it for this weekends comp ( I broke the traction bar). It sounds like this will be a fun one.
It has been soo long since the last comp, I need to get into the groove of things again. I am having a hard time getting exited out this one, but having Hobie back will make it a good time no matter what happens.

You won't see me taking bets on myself in a comp, or even talking a bunch of shit, too much can go wrong.

All it takes is a reduction gear in your t-cse to explode and it's all over:D:D:flipoff2:

I just got back from the Marlin Roundup on the Rubicon. We had a great time.
I still have to unload the rig and prep it for this weekends comp ( I broke the traction bar). It sounds like this will be a fun one.
It has been soo long since the last comp, I need to get into the groove of things again. I am having a hard time getting exited out this one, but having Hobie back will make it a good time no matter what happens.

Well thanks for stopping by then....

Well thanks for stopping by then....

:lmao: :lmao:

You won't see me taking bets on myself in a comp, or even talking a bunch of shit, too much can go wrong.

All it takes is a reduction gear in your t-cse to explode and it's all over:D:D:flipoff2:

That sounds familiar:( ,(allthough I was still happy to get 3rd.)

Its alot easier to talk shit from the sidelines:D My t case has zero chance of breaking sitting at home.

Should be a great comp, Im gonna try and get out and watch.

BTW congrats on a kick ass season.

Gotcha.......this time it's for real though. I hope your going to bring your "A" game......we are both coming after YOU!:D:smokin::D

Matt

Are YOU going to compete in Formula Toy this weekend? or are you just talking $hit for the Scooters and More guys?

Are YOU going to compete in Formula Toy this weekend? or are you just talking $hit for the Scooters and More guys?

I will be there...the TG f-toy has been fully prepared......it's AWN SUCKA!

Just Like Old School!

See you on Friday

That sounds familiar:( ,(allthough I was still happy to get 3rd.)

Its alot easier to talk shit from the sidelines:D My t case has zero chance of breaking sitting at home.

Should be a great comp, Im gonna try and get out and watch.

BTW congrats on a kick ass season.

Thanks dude, and I can fully see you point about competing your own rig:D

Hobie's rig has been fully prepped too. We washed off most of the mud, got the hay bales off the back, and cleaned some of the cow shit off the tires. :homer: You guys are gonna love the hillbilly trailer he's hauling. :laughing::laughing::flipoff2:

Here is a perfect example of what can happen if you follow Hobie's winning techniques. This could be you next time!

http://www.trail-gear.com/images/Matt/048_48.jpg


Oh yeah....I forget to let you all know that Craig will be spotting for me......OLD SCHOOL BABY!

I do believe that Hobie and I are the reigning NATIONAL F-Toy champs:D:D:flipoff2:

I do believe that Hobie and I are the reigning NATIONAL F-Toy champs:D:D:flipoff2:

I think you should spot for Hobie this weekend....somebody get a hold of Fatkid....were going to need him!

somebody get a hold of Fatkid....were going to need him!


Now THATS FUNNY!:laughing::laughing:

I think you should spot for Hobie this weekend....somebody get a hold of Fatkid....were going to need him!

If you want to re-create the Spring TX event we need ToolBoxGuy to spot for John..........fatty fully left Team Marlin Crawler high and dry at that event:shaking:

If I were still in F-Toy I would wish all of you guys the best. Business is too good to be distracted. Have fun guys... my $ are on Hobie.. sam:)

I do believe that Hobie and I are the reigning NATIONAL F-Toy champs:D:D:flipoff2:


Well I do believe that the last time hobie won a Pro -Rock championship, I was spotting for him just like I will be this weekend. John, Your going down Sucker!!@!!!!!!!!!!!:flipoff2:



Gay Pride all the way!!!!!!@!

This is gonna be awesome!!!!!!!!!!!








I actually wish I were competing in this one, instead of watching, with a beer in my hand.

I wish I could be there too. My money is on Hobie! John and MD are getting too comfortable, Matt wont have enough knobs, buttons and levers to bail him out, so I think Hobie will be taking y'all to school. Bring your notebooks. :flipoff2:

I actually checked on airfare from Memphis........I won't be there.


Got to go with Hobie. John's not accustomed to this kind of pressure, and Matt might want to turn his seat around so he feel's more at home. :D Have fun guys!

Gay Pride all the way!!!!!!@!


:laughing:

You guys better bring more than rainbows and Lucky Charms to beat JJ!

Hey Matt, here's my collection from this season.

Let's see yours fool:p:flipoff2::flipoff2:

That's the best you can do? A little shelf over a nut and bolt bin, dude I thought you had skills..:flipoff2:

Hobie Hobie Hobie :D

That's the best you can do? A little shelf over a nut and bolt bin, dude I thought you had skills..:flipoff2:

Hobie Hobie Hobie :D


I got a bunch of plaques too:flipoff2:

THIS WILL BE LIKE OLD TIMES,SHOULD BE A GREAT WEEKEND , YOU CAN'T MAKE ONE MISTAKE , HERO TO ZERO IN ONE COURSE!!!!:smokin:

I love it, pics of a sobe bomb :laughing::laughing:

This is gonna be awesome!!!!!!!!!!!








I actually wish I were competing in this one, instead of watching, with a beer in my hand.

if my toy was up you could use mine

Just talked to Hobie. He's past Phoenix. Feeling the pressure yet guys?! :D

Brett you don't have anything to do. How about live updates?! You can send me pics and/or text and i'll post it up here. I can't remember if you can get cell out there or not?

if my toy was up you could use mine


God no! I have seen him drive :flipoff2:

Hobies staying here tonight, we're cooking up a fat batch of salmonilla for him. I doubt he'll be a contender:barf::laughing::laughing::laughing:

Cancelled my flight out for the XRRA nationals:( But the good news is the "FU2" f-toy will be there with me drive'n and flash spot'n...
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No not really:( but it sounded fun while I was write'n it..:flipoff2:

I wish I could be there because no matter what happens, there is a good chance a TIN BENDER'S gonna win..:D

God no! I have seen him drive :flipoff2:










Not only do I drive like shit, but I could ruin a vehicle unloading it off of a trailer.:flipoff2:






You didn't catch that on film did you???

Not only do I drive like shit, but I could ruin a vehicle unloading it off of a trailer.:flipoff2:






You didn't catch that on film did you???

No.... you realy can use it bc i will never get a chance to compete and would love to see it competing

You didn't catch that on film did you???

No, I didn't! But that would have been good. for minute there I thought it was going upsidedown on top of my dodge :eek:

Greg, your going to have a bunch of chances to compete living where you do. It's a blast!

Just talked to Hobie. He's past Phoenix. Feeling the pressure yet guys?! :D

Brett you don't have anything to do. How about live updates?! You can send me pics and/or text and i'll post it up here. I can't remember if you can get cell out there or not?







Yeah, I'll check cell phone coverage when I get there. Thats a good idea!

Hey brett i should have next weekend off if you want to get some work done

i'd like to say thanks to all my loyal fans. i wont let you down:smokin:

just to insure it, i am about to sneak out to john's rig and switch the arb lines and put the front tires with water on the rear:D

i'd like to say thanks to all my loyal fans. i wont let you down:smokin:

just to insure it, i am about to sneak out to john's rig and switch the arb lines and put the front tires with water on the rear:D


Good to see you here in Tucson the other night. Whenever your passing thru, give me a ring.

If you get a chance, switch Matts line locks too.

At the comp site now.....ready to bring it!

Who's there?

LIVE UPDATE!!

Matt Messer -98
John James-98
Mike Wright-96
Hal Deschamps-104
Bruce Lockerman-???



Not sure how many courses remain but not done for the day. I'll post up final scores for the day as soon as Brett sends them.

Oh yeah.......






















































Hobie Smith-26 :eek:

Our hero is down but not out. Still got at least 1 course today and all day tomorrow.

Final for Saturday

Hal-198
John-192
Matt-192
Mike-190
Bruce-142
Hobie-???

I know Hobie broke but don't know what or where? Sounds like the champ took a beatin today.

Yeah Hobie has been out of the drivers seat to long. As for breakage he broke the wheel studs off the l/rear wheel and it looked like the front third may have pulled out or maybe it leaks like that all the time:D

My bet is it leaks like that all the time!!!

Final for Saturday

Hal-198
John-192
Matt-192
Mike-190
Bruce-142
Hobie-???

I know Hobie broke but don't know what or where? Sounds like the champ took a beatin today.

Hobie ended day one with a 76. Remember high scores win in ProRock.

Here's Hobies hilight reel. Sorry Hobie, but I told John and MD that I'd post these. :D

Looking good, but something is missing. Can you spot what it is?

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g26/earlkann/ProRock%209_08/DSCF2247.jpg


It was the lug nuts!

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g26/earlkann/ProRock%209_08/DSCF2248.jpg

Not being one to give up, Hobie tries to continue the course. (possibly fueled by some egging on from the crowd)

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g26/earlkann/ProRock%209_08/DSCF2249.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g26/earlkann/ProRock%209_08/DSCF2250.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g26/earlkann/ProRock%209_08/DSCF2252.jpg

Soon after that last pic he got wedged up and popped something in the front end, ending this course.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g26/earlkann/ProRock%209_08/DSCF2289.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g26/earlkann/ProRock%209_08/DSCF2283.jpg

Broken wheel studs.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g26/earlkann/ProRock%209_08/DSCF2281.jpg

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g26/earlkann/ProRock%209_08/DSCF2282.jpg


At least one stud/nut missing from the front third and it's leaking from the mounting surface.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g26/earlkann/ProRock%209_08/DSCF2285.jpg

Drivers side knuckle is also leaking badly.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g26/earlkann/ProRock%209_08/DSCF2287.jpg

Hobie put in a spare rear axle shaft and was driving around later on. Not sure exactly what all is wrong in the front. I think he's planning on running it like that tomorrow.

Here's the link to all of my pictures.

http://s52.photobucket.com/albums/g26/earlkann/ProRock%209_08/

Final scores? My source must have partied to hard last night?!

I didn't get all the final scores, but I believe the podium was John, Matt, and Mike.

Mike and Jake could have had second but broke both something in the front end and the rear driveshaft on the last course and couldn't finish.

I didn't get all the final scores, but I believe the podium was John, Matt, and Mike.

Mike and Jake could have had second but broke both something in the front end and the rear driveshaft on the last course and couldn't finish.

Thanks for posting the pics. We broke the R&P I think and the output off the t_case we have never had an issue with our drive shafts. We tied with Matt for 2nd but he beat us on the tie breaker

Thanks for posting the pics. We broke the R&P I think and the output off the t_case we have never had an issue with our drive shafts. We tied with Matt for 2nd but he beat us on the tie breaker

Front or rear output? Im guessing rear?


Now who was it that got schooled? I see John in first?! :confused:

Thanks for posting the pics. We broke the R&P I think and the output off the t_case we have never had an issue with our drive shafts. We tied with Matt for 2nd but he beat us on the tie breaker

Oh right! I saw the drive line flopping but didn't think of the t-case output.

High Desert Drivelines kick ass! :smokin:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g26/earlkann/ProRock%209_08/DSCF2144.jpg

Oh right! I saw the drive line flopping but didn't think of the t-case output.

High Desert Drivelines kick ass! :smokin:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g26/earlkann/ProRock%209_08/DSCF2144.jpg

Hope that did not come across the wrong way. in 4 years of comps and trail rides we have never broke any drive shaft parts Bruce builds em right:smokin:
Brian it was the rear I weged the front in to a rock and tried to drive it out that broke the r&p then trying to get up the wall (a small wall at that) in 2 WD I killed the out put it sucks to be that close and throw it away like that
totally my fault

Are you kiddig me? The comp was fixed!!!! Hobie got screwed on this one. Sombody must have sabotaged his rig. I mean that's low, Hobie jokes about it and sombody loosens his lugnuts :shaking::shaking:

Are you kiddig me? The comp was fixed!!!! Hobie got screwed on this one. Sombody must have sabotaged his rig. I mean that's low, Hobie jokes about it and sombody loosens his lugnuts :shaking::shaking:


You can't seriously be thinking that's what happened.

So does this mean that Hobie will have to repeat a grade? :laughing:

i am really disappointed about the results of the seminar. all of the students get an F. i totally gave up my game and focused on everyone else. i even showed on every course, what not to do in my own rig. if you were there, then you heard me yell to the crowd, "dont do what i just did" and they still didnt beat john. yall are all terrible students:flipoff2:

You should start giving out refunds, especially to Matt. He came out gunning hard for the Marlin team and came up way short:laughing::laughing::laughing:

i am really disappointed about the results of the seminar. all of the students get an F. i totally gave up my game and focused on everyone else. i even showed on every course, what not to do in my own rig. if you were there, then you heard me yell to the crowd, "dont do what i just did" and they still didnt beat john. yall are all terrible students:flipoff2:

Finishing ahead of the teacher don't count for anything?:flipoff2:

You can't seriously be thinking that's what happened.
Dude, seriously? I guess it's true....I'm not funny:(

:flipoff2::flipoff2:

hahahahaha..yall are all funny

You should start giving out refunds, especially to Matt. He came out gunning hard for the Marlin team and came up way short:laughing::laughing::laughing:

Considering I have not competed in the f-toy in a year and was driving both Unlimited and F-toy at the same time....I think I drove 14 courses between both days. I'm a happy camper! I had a blast running back and forth between classes.

Matt

Considering I have not competed in the f-toy in a year and was driving both Unlimited and F-toy at the same time....I think I drove 14 courses between both days. I'm a happy camper! I had a blast running back and forth between classes.

Matt

I thought we had you beat for 2nd. The f-toy class has really come along way in 5 years. it was cool to see you, Hobie and Sean back out there

I thought we had you beat for 2nd. The f-toy class has really come along way in 5 years. it was cool to see you, Hobie and Sean back out there

No worries Mike.....you ended up beating yourself......don't you hate when that happens. Hindsight is always 20/20.

Matt

No worries Mike.....you ended up beating yourself......don't you hate when that happens. Hindsight is always 20/20.

Matt

Thats true I had no idea the line lock was on until after we had the car loaded up. The l/f tire was stuffed into the ledge on that climb I know that didn't help any then after the front broke Jake said go for it in 2wd as soon as i dropped the clutch it was over. I just figured whatever broke in the front locked it up

Thats true I had no idea the line lock was on until after we had the car loaded up. The l/f tire was stuffed into the ledge on that climb I know that didn't help any then after the front broke Jake said go for it in 2wd as soon as i dropped the clutch it was over. I just figured whatever broke in the front locked it up
Run crappy brakes, worked for me :D :D

You guys are all just lucky I live 24 hours away :flipoff2:


anyone in Southern Cali want to hire an illegal?:D

You guys are all just lucky I live 24 hours away :flipoff2:


anyone in Southern Cali want to hire an illegal?:D

Do you speak English?:flipoff2:

I thought we had you beat for 2nd. The f-toy class has really come along way in 5 years. it was cool to see you, Hobie and Sean back out there

It was great seeing you guys, and everyone else. Thanks to Hobie for asking me to spot, and getting me back in the game. Even with all our mishaps on saturday I had alot of fun. Actually I think it took all the pressure off and made for funner sunday.

So after Saturdays courses I head back to camp and John decides to screw around on some rocks. He rolls the rig and my helmet falls out and gets fully smashed.

We're not talking about some bmx or skate helmet, this was a bad ass all carbon fiber work of art......To the tune of $300:(:laughing::laughing:

I was gonna try to fix it with a couple stickers, but I couldn't get it back into a head shape.

So after Saturdays courses I head back to camp and John decides to screw around on some rocks. He rolls the rig and my helmet falls out and gets fully smashed.

We're not talking about some bmx or skate helmet, this was a bad ass all carbon fiber work of art......To the tune of $300:(:laughing::laughing:

I was gonna try to fix it with a couple stickers, but I couldn't get it back into a head shape.
Wow! good thing your head wasnt in it.

So after Saturdays courses I head back to camp and John decides to screw around on some rocks. He rolls the rig and my helmet falls out and gets fully smashed.

We're not talking about some bmx or skate helmet, this was a bad ass all carbon fiber work of art......To the tune of $300:(:laughing::laughing:

I was gonna try to fix it with a couple stickers, but I couldn't get it back into a head shape.

least your head wasn't in it...

edit: too slow

Dude, seriously? I guess it's true....I'm not funny:(

:flipoff2::flipoff2:

Dude, seriously. Listen to your spotter. :flipoff2:

(How can you bet against a guy that kicked your ass all year long?):homer:

Here's a couple pics....

And the back side:laughing:

Sunday morning my head felt like it was in that helmet when it got smashed!:laughing:


It could of been the partying though, I'm not sure.

And the back side:laughing:

Dang! That's sad. Nice to know it held up that well.

Just got back from 3 days in Seattle. Thanks to all of the competitors. As always, we had a great time hanging out and competing with everyone. The courses were all over the place. The first 2 courses on Saturday were hard but the second 2 were lame. We complained a little so they stepped it up on Sunday. All 4 courses on Sunday were good courses.
Hobie found out that if you don't compete regularly, you forget things (like turning off the line lock and putting it back into 4wd after doing a rear burn :flipoff2:). Matt was bringing it all weekend but the Trail Gear F-toy just didn't have enough switches and levers for him to play with while on course. I kept seeing him grabbing for the turning brakes with his right hand but they weren't there :D:D.

Here's a quick story that MD touched on. After the competition on Saturday, we were all standing around trying to figure out how to get Hobie's rig back to camp after the wheel fell off and something in the front broke. Hobie got it figured out so I decided to turn around and go back to camp. To my Left was a big rock that we have competed on in the past, so I figured that I would go over this rock and head back. As I crested the top of the rock I turned to the left thinking that I was on the same line as I have been a number of times before. But this time as I started down the other side the drivers front dropped out suddenly. I gassed it in an attempt to drive out of it but I was too high off the ground and over I went. It was a pretty hard roll that wend straight over onto my roof. Of course, everything in the cab (mine an MD's helmet, gloves, etc.) went flying, it smashed my cheap helmet a little but MD's new helmet didn't fair so well (sorry MD). BUT I WAS FINE CAUSE I WAS WEARING MY 5 POINT HARNESS. I have been forcing myself to put the whole seatbelt on every time I get into the rig EVERY TIME. This time it paid off.

Wear your seatbelt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It was probably more like this.

MD “Dtoy you rolled on my helmet”
Dtoy “[Buford T. Justice voice] I hope your god dam head was in it! [Buford T. Justice voice]”

The final scores are up http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=717253
Wow, Hobie and Matt must be terrible teachers :flipoff2:

The final scores are up http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=717253
Wow, Hobie and Matt must be terrible teachers :flipoff2:

Those scores suck:flipoff2:



You guys are really good! I know we ran at least one perfect course on sunday, but you STILL got a higher score, :flipoff2: now thats talent


Not that it made any difference in the end...............

like john said, being out of the seat for a while, i had to brush off the cobbwebs. good times, though. i couldnt stop laughing at myself when i thought i had no front drive :laughing:

Nice job everyone.

JJ-Thanks for posting the reminder to always wear seatbelts and harness.:)