Scott thought this would be a good subject, so here it is. WHAT RECOVERY GEAR DO YOU CARRY, AND HOW WOULD YOU USE IT? Wasn't shouting just wan't to make the question clear. Thanks Scott@ Rockstomper for the idea.:D

A shovel and a tow strap... and another rig, never wheel alone.

Also a come-along usually but not always.

Stick of gum, a jizz rag, and a couple of maggs


oh yeah ! duct tape and zip ties baby!

bloody mary's.

six shackles
two tree straps
three snatch blocks
warn winch
two tow straps
several 10ft length of high strength chain
one winch extension line
two pairs of heavy leather gloves
spare controller for winch

6 shackles
2-20' Nylon slings
2-10' Nylon slings
Snatch Block
10 5/16", 10 3/8" crosby clips, plus thimbles.
XD9000i
Folding shovel/pick
2 ton comealong
Hilift jack
pair of riggers gloves
NO CHAIN AT ALL

I carry with me:
6" Shackles rated for 40,000#
60' of 1/2" cable
90' of 9/16" crane cable (graded)
2 48" jackalls and wood to put em on so they don't sink
2 3" continuous slings
2 3" eyelet slings
and always a cell phone.

My full list is at www.alaskaoffroad.com (http://www.alaskaoffroad.com/hybrid.htm) But, here is the basics that I always carry.


8000 lb Winch sometimes two
60 inch Hi-Lift Jack
Full Size Spare
8 feet of 3/8 chain
Tree Strap
2 Shackles
Clevis
Snatch Strap
Shovel
Axe
Bow Saw
Air Compressor
Tow Rope
Come-A-Long
Leather Gloves
Jumper Cables
Fire Extinguisher
Tree Strap
Winch lead!!
Shovel
Tarp
Trash Bag
Hip Boots
Rain Gear
Axe
Extra Gas
Cell Phone
Flares
Rope (3/8 Nylon)

Good old strap winches scare me. I have a winch 9 times out of 10 I don't carry it. Tree strap so the greenies can't say shit. Snatch block, no chains, buttload of zipties, duct tape, air, hi-lift, CB, light(for after dark boo-boos), and a bunch of fluids and what nots. So far I think the strap is the safest and most widely used for me but nothing beats a good friend who can help you out of a jam.:beer:

Tree Saver
30' Tow strap
48" hi-lift jack
fire extinguisher
2 flashlights
duct tape
zip ties
electrical tape
Tools, just in case that 35c decides to go

Me things Smart Ass should change his username to Dumb Ass :flipoff2: :D

Winch
Straps
Tree Saver
Gloves
Several shackles
couplo snatches, oh and snatch blocks would be cool too:flipoff2:
ear plugs - so I can put them in and don't have to listen to the jeeps as I drive by them.

The usual:
Warn winch
Snatch strap
Tree saver strap
Clevis
Snatch block
Chains
Shovel
Hi-lift jack

Originally posted by 70~K5
AND HOW WOULD YOU USE IT? .:D

What kind of question is that?:flipoff2: I would use it for self recovery or recovery of someone else!!!!:D

HS9500I Winch
6 diferent shackles
tree strap
tow strap
2 25 ft chains
60 in Hi Lift jack
On board air
Safety seal tire kit
Full size spare
lots of spare parts

Originally posted by MR4WD
60' of 1/2" cable

1/2"? :eek:

90' of 9/16" crane cable (graded)

Double :eek: !!!!

What do you drive... a tank?

I've never even seen bigger than 1/2" cable on a 4x4, and that was on an old military PTO winch.

Not knocking it--just never seen recovery gear that big, in use on anything remotely qualifying as a "light truck".
Maybe people should also note what kind of 'wheeling they usually do, and/or the conditions that call for the gear they carry.

For example, I carry:
2 2x30 tow straps
1 3x6 one-ply treesaver
1 3x10 two-ply treesaver
6 shackles
1 snatch block
3 10-15 foot winch extensions (they're actually spotter straps, but made from leftover winch line)
1 60" HiLift
Winch (duh)
Gloves (probably two or three pair)

The straps 'cause more often than not, a quick tug out of a snowdrift is easier than winching, unless I'm alone. Then I winch. Also double as extralong treesavers and/or winch extensions.
The treesavers for obvious reasons--the longer two-ply because it's much more durable when I use it as a rock wrap. Also doubles as a frame choker for other trucks with no hooks.

I used to carry a whole lot more recovery gear in my other truck, but found that most of it never got used, so I went a lot more minimalist this time. I'm thinking I may take the shorter treesaver out entirely... I don't seem to use it much. I don't carry chain any more 'cause I never used it before.

I started carying my binders and Chain the last time I tore a steering box from the frame. That was the only thing that would hold it tight enough to keep it from falling off again. Come-a-longs and ratchet straps wouldnt cut it. After I chained it down, I prolly could have wheeled the rest of the weekend. :D

Brook

What kind of question is that?:flipoff2: I would use it for self recovery or recovery of someone else!!!!:D [/B][/QUOTE]

That was for different ideas on how you can use recovery gear. As Scott said he uses a 2 ply tree saver when someone doesn't have a tow point and I would normally use a 10-15' logging chain for the same. Don't you think we can learn anything from others here. If that's the case why even bother coming here.:flipoff2:

-When I'm snow wheeling, I use a sled as a creeper :flipoff2:
-I've used a high lift as a winch/come a long. (who hasn't)
-I've used a ratchet strap to re-bead a tire to its rim, along with air.
-I've used a beer can and some hose clamps to quiet a exaust blow out.
-Shackle D- rings are a must.
-Anyone with out tow hooks front and back, is a pain in the ass. It is regulation in some places and curtious in others to have your hooks painted a bright color.
-Duct tape, safety wire, zip ties, electrical tape, quick dry jb weld, and such are essential.
-I have a medium sized vice hard mounted to my bumper. (I don't even have to explain how many uses it serves). OK I'll give you an easy one. U-joint changes.
-We all must bow to the chain saw winch. I don't have one yet but I've seen one used. Pulled out a 69 bronco, 94 Ranger, and a 73 F-250 in about 15 minutes. Talk about efficient.

Are these some of the things and ways you were talking about?
Shaggy

Originally posted by CJ-5shaggy

-Anyone with out tow hooks front and back, is a pain in the ass.

can i get an AMEN!

Originally posted by high5
can i get an AMEN! AMEN

http://www.rockstomper.com/images/products/recovery/kits/masterkit01.jpg
One 2x30 tow strap
One premium 3x10 two-ply treesaver
One scissors-style snatch block
One 3/8x10 chain
Four shackles
One pair of work gloves
One tough nylon gear bag
Warn M8000 with 80' RockStomper Plasma Rope

Duct tape and bailing wire

Originally posted by Belly Dragger

Warn M8000 with 80' RockStomper Plasma Rope


That brings up a question. How many times have you found you don't have enough rope on the winch to hook to a winch anchor. 80 ft. is pretty short, I have 95 ft., some winches have as much as 150 ft. I used to carry an extra 20 ft. length of cable with a loop on each end, carried it for 15 years and never used it, it now is holding down the trampoline in the back yard so it doesn't blow away again!:D

Originally posted by landuseorc
That brings up a question. How many times have you found you don't have enough rope on the winch to hook to a winch anchor. 80 ft. is pretty short, I have 95 ft., some winches have as much as 150 ft. I used to carry an extra 20 ft. length of cable with a loop on each end, carried it for 15 years and never used it, it now is holding down the trampoline in the back yard so it doesn't blow away again!:D

I've almost always had enough to make something, somehow, work. It's usually more of a convenience than anything else--more reach means I can drag farther on one pull of the line, through that endless snowdrift.

One instance a few years back comes to mind, though...
A friend and I were out 'wheeling. We started out the day with a larger group, but I'd broken my front axle, so we'd turned back. We figured, why blow the rest of a good day, let's go explore some of the 2WD fire roads while we're out. Well, it was January in northern Colorado, so the 2WD fire roads were a little snowy. He got stuck in a drift down in a long dip. I couldn't get closer than probably 200 feet to him. His winch was facing the wrong way, and I didn't have one at all. No anchor points to the front for probably a mile-plus. So we started digging out straps and whatnot. He had a couple towstraps, a spare winch cable, and a treesaver. I had a couple more straps. We strung it all together, and hooked the two trucks back to back. Well, the first pull, I got on the CB... "how's that?" "how's what? are you pulling already?" So I let about two or three car-lengths of slack into the pile of straps... and whomped it. I guess it yanked pretty hard, 'cause his wife was riding shotgun, and holding their rat terrier... and the rat terrier came loose, bounced off the windshield, and landed back in her lap, yapping away. Looking back on that, if I'd had a winch, it wouldn't have been any issue at all to pull him out. But ya make do with what ya got, right?

I was kinda scratching my head when a chain saw winch was mentioned...

So I found this link, they are down on the bottom.

http://www.loghomestore.com/chainsaw.html

But it seems truck recovery wasnt really a thought in building them.

Makes me think though. I wonder if I could build a winch that uses a lawn blower engine. 10hp with a side output shaft, rather than the vertical shafts that mowers use....

Just a thought.

Most of the junk I carry is listed near the bottom of this page: http://www.explorer4x4.com/specs.htm

One thing I would add since I carry a ton of shzit, is I have modified my D handle shovel to also be a dead man anchor. I cut off the D handle and sleaved over the handle, with schedule 40 pipe. Then welded an attachemnt point in the middle for a shackle, before putting the handle back on. This allows me to bury the shovel in snow, sand, dirt, etc and pull against it. It will dive like a pull pal anchor if you set it right.

A Warn 8274 with 150 feet of cable.
A snatch block with 4" shackle
A 30' 50,000 lb tow strap
A 5' high lift jack
A pair of birfields
A spare tire
And a roll of electrical tape

Originally posted by Malltero
I was kinda scratching my head when a chain saw winch was mentioned...

So I found this link, they are down on the bottom.

http://www.loghomestore.com/chainsaw.html

But it seems truck recovery wasnt really a thought in building them.

Makes me think though. I wonder if I could build a winch that uses a lawn blower engine. 10hp with a side output shaft, rather than the vertical shafts that mowers use....

Just a thought.

Mentions truck recovery in both adds. Believe me, these things more than do thier part. Do you know how much a F-250 with 39.5" tires wieghs. That thing pulled it out of a bog with no help from the truck because both drivelines were busted, (don't ask, inexperienced driver). Here is the add for the best one. Too bad it is as much as a solid mount warn, but if ya got the money, spend it.
Lewis Winch
Attaches to your chain saw. (Gas and electric models). Use for log building, skidding logs, freeing stuck equipment . 60' - 80' per minute line speed. Comes with snatch block and tree hugger strap included. Greater capacity than Simpson winch. Very popular in remote locations. This is a extremely rugged, well made unit.
Model 401 comes with a single drum and 150' of 3/16" cable.
Also available with 250' of 1/4" cable.
Model 401 $675.00

Quantity:
37 lbs.
Shaggy
freeing stuck equipment

Originally posted by Scott@Rockstomper


1/2"? :eek:



Double :eek: !!!!

What do you drive... a tank?

I've never even seen bigger than 1/2" cable on a 4x4, and that was on an old military PTO winch.

Not knocking it--just never seen recovery gear that big, in use on anything remotely qualifying as a "light truck".
Maybe people should also note what kind of 'wheeling they usually do, and/or the conditions that call for the gear they carry.

For example, I carry:
2 2x30 tow straps
1 3x6 one-ply treesaver
1 3x10 two-ply treesaver
6 shackles
1 snatch block
3 10-15 foot winch extensions (they're actually spotter straps, but made from leftover winch line)
1 60" HiLift
Winch (duh)
Gloves (probably two or three pair)

The straps 'cause more often than not, a quick tug out of a snowdrift is easier than winching, unless I'm alone. Then I winch. Also double as extralong treesavers and/or winch extensions.
The treesavers for obvious reasons--the longer two-ply because it's much more durable when I use it as a rock wrap. Also doubles as a frame choker for other trucks with no hooks.

I used to carry a whole lot more recovery gear in my other truck, but found that most of it never got used, so I went a lot more minimalist this time. I'm thinking I may take the shorter treesaver out entirely... I don't seem to use it much. I don't carry chain any more 'cause I never used it before.

First of all I don't have a winch. Yet. Secondly I get all the cable from work after it's been houred out on a crane or something along those lines. We all run fullsizes with huge motors and 44" boggers or something there in, so for a 6500 pound truck you can't have too much overkill, especially when you're using it as a jerk strap. Typically, to get better anchorage, we'll run the winch through 2 shives and 3 trucks (including the winch truck) and use the lines I have as the actual long line. However, rolling it up in anything smaller than 4 foot loops is not much of an option, so it typically stays tangled in the back of my truck until we need it. (lots). The slings make great tree straps, and wrap around bumpers easily. On the flip side of things, if I had a jeep with the same drivetrain I'm running now, I'd more than likely drop down to somewhere in the 4500-5000 pound range and would take more of a minimalist approach.

Originally posted by CJ-5shaggy


Mentions truck recovery in both adds. Believe me, these things more than do thier part.
freeing stuck equipment

Shaggy,

Im sorry man but I will believe it when I see it. Hell they are only rated to like 3,000pounds on the site.

Last time I check a stuck truck on 39's wieghs alot more than that. Not to mention all the drag of a hard stuck. A crv in mud can generate more drag than these things can handle.

2500# capacity depending on size of Chain Saw. Actual weight is 9#.