I have a D44 from a Waggy in my CJ7. I'm going to do a hydraulic assist for it.
I think I have everything worked out except the ram travel length.
I've been searching for hours but every thing I find says to use an 8" stroke ram but when I measure the actual travel of the tie rod it is right at 6".
I know I could use a 8" ram with limiting the ram travel but wouldn't it be better to just use a 6" ram?

I have a D44 from a Waggy in my CJ7. I'm going to do a hydraulic assist for it.
I think I have everything worked out except the ram travel length.
I've been searching for hours but every thing I find says to use an 8" stroke ram but when I measure the actual travel of the tie rod it is right at 6".
I know I could use a 8" ram with limiting the ram travel but wouldn't it be better to just use a 6" ram?
with high-steer it's often 6" Mine is a 6" travel ram on a '79 Ford F150 axle.

I run an 8". Have for a while, and have many other friends running an 8 as well.

Just put this http://www.pscmotorsports.com/sc2221-15-x-675-cylinder-assist-steering-cylinder-p-748.html
on f-250 44. I had just a little over 6" of travel, it works great.

most of the time people seem to need 6" for dana 44s and 8" for dana 60s. But I would measure to be sure.

Measure it.

Mine is 7 1/8". HPD44 using OTK steering. I have an internally stopped 8" ram.

forgive the newb question,

you're measuring the throw of the steering arm correct?
How? since it travels in an arc

I would guess I could just mark a spot on the tie rod and axle at full lock and measure the distance at opposite full lock

any reason why that wouldn't work?

I would guess I could just mark a spot on the tie rod and axle at full lock and measure the distance at opposite full lock

any reason why that wouldn't work?

That's how I did mine.

forgive the newb question,

you're measuring the throw of the steering arm correct?
How? since it travels in an arc


For reference.

Who was your geometry teacher? Assuming you have a 45Deg turning you could do this.

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k51/hadfield4wd/Other%20Jeeps%20type%20pics/pitmanarmtohighsteerarm.jpg

forgive the newb question,

you're measuring the throw of the steering arm correct?
How? since it travels in an arc

I would guess I could just mark a spot on the tie rod and axle at full lock and measure the distance at opposite full lock

any reason why that wouldn't work?

This is the way I measured the total travel of the tie rod. I turned the steeing wheel all the the way to left lock and tied the steering wheel over marked the tie rod aginst a stationary point in this case my spring then did the same with the wheel at right lock, the 2 marks are right at 6" apart.
That way I know exactly what the ram travel needs to be.
I was just wondering because everything I came up with said to use an 8" stroke and they didn't seem to specify whether for a D44 or D60.
Oh, by the way my steering linkage is all stock wagoneer stuff nothing fancy. I can't justify the cost putting high steer in when I'll probably trash the 44 and will have to go to a 60 anyway!

Assuming you have a 45Deg turning you could do this.
Only figure I've seen from Spicer is a 40 Deg, 20 each way.

Use a 6" ram for high steer. The 8" ram is if you use the stock knuckles. This is how I did mine:

http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo294/fordfascist/P3170128.jpg

Just put this http://www.pscmotorsports.com/sc2221-15-x-675-cylinder-assist-steering-cylinder-p-748.html
on f-250 44. I had just a little over 6" of travel, it works great.

To add more, this is 6.75" travel makes up for the angle & twist of the tie rod assembly.

Does anyone have pics of how they mounted the ram on a HP44? I'm running full histeer and cant decide. I could either run it to the stock knuckle on the passenger side and skidplate the hell out of it or build a tower to raise the fixed end up to tierod height?

What are you guys doing?

me too, on high steer D60, this is the same set up as I have and it works great. I used an AGR ram


Use a 6" ram for high steer. The 8" ram is if you use the stock knuckles. This is how I did mine:

http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo294/fordfascist/P3170128.jpg

heres mine. i'm using full highsteer on a f250 d44.
view from the back.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p45/maffuhinitt/1105081532b.jpg
under the spring on the drivers side, i bent the forward plate to put the ram more inline with the tierod
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p45/maffuhinitt/1105081534a.jpg