: Steering Woes


AkDale
08-03-2002, 07:29 AM
Just put some boggers 33X15 on my zuke.
Am running 10#s air in them.
Slow speed is good but when I speed up to about 15 - 20 mph and start hitting small bumps, she starts drifting side to side rather quickly. The steering is tight--ball joints--steering box.
I am running a track bar ,steering stab. and a z-link.

I am thinking that the stab bar is amplifying the bump-steer that the z-link is creating.
Any opinions?
Thanks,
Dale

Rocky Road
08-03-2002, 07:42 AM
The Steering shock would not amplify your bumpsteer problems. It serves as a shock absorber between the tires and your hands and so does help absorb bumpsteer a bit.

A heavy duty steering shock might help you out some. We like the OME steering shock as it bolts into the factoey positions. You can use a Rancho/Procomp style too though they require special bracketry which many prefer to stay away from.

zuk88
08-03-2002, 08:22 AM
Look into crossover steering. I have no bump steer now that I did the conversion. I got the Roadless Gear system but there are a couple other companys out there that sell crossover kits.

horse_with_no_name
08-03-2002, 10:00 AM
check your toe in, if your zuk is modified (lift big tires etc..) 3/16" seems to work pretty well and don't forget suzuki has a tsb on knuckle seals letting the wheel vibrate profusely and/or steer all over the road. Petroworks hasthe rebuild kits and they are chaep and easy to install...l8tr,scott

AkDale
08-03-2002, 10:59 AM
"The Steering shock would not amplify your bumpsteer problems. It serves as a shock absorber between the tires and your hands and so does help absorb bumpsteer a bit."

I was under the impression that the steering damper helps to slow down the tendency for the wheels to turn abruptly thus causing one to break ones thumbs if one were rookie enough to have them in the way.

Correct me if I am wrong, but if it were possible to hold the steering wheel in a totally locked position, and there were no slop in any of the joints or linkages, and your drag link was not paralell to your axle, then when you went over a bump, The fact that your diagonal draglink, as it went closer to paralell to the axle, it would push on the wheel--- makeing the vehicle turn to one side or the other.

slider
08-03-2002, 05:57 PM
(((check your toe in, if your zuk is modified (lift big tires etc..) 3/16" seems to work pretty well and don't forget suzuki has a tsb on knuckle seals letting the wheel vibrate profusely and/or steer all over the road. Petroworks hasthe rebuild kits and they are chaep and easy to install...l8tr,scott)))

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What's a "tsb on knuckle seal"???

I've got the front axle all dissassembled right now!
If there is something there I should correct now?...

...out with it!

MuddMachine
08-03-2002, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by AkDale
Just put some boggers 33X15 on my zuke.
Am running 10#s air in them.
Slow speed is good but when I speed up to about 15 - 20 mph and start hitting small bumps, she starts drifting side to side rather quickly.

Well geez, i geuss running 10 psi in a 33" bias ply wouldnt have anything to do with it...... how far do you drive with those boggers ?

horse_with_no_name
08-04-2002, 07:52 AM
A tsb is a technical service bulliten and this one pertains to replacing the knuckle seals(rubbers) and wipers(felts) to "tighten " up the front end. Polish your knuckles while your in there, the seals will last longer. l8tr scott

Roksamy
08-10-2002, 10:26 PM
death wobble has come and gone on my zuk , with fixes ranging from toe in to leaf spring bushings check everything regularly like you're supposed to.....:rolleyes:

4004ever
08-11-2002, 09:22 AM
http://www.breezeindustries.com/kit_details.htm#Cross%20Over%20Steering%20System

It costs 375 canadian, If you do the math, thats about 50 buck american!:D

MuddMachine
08-11-2002, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by Roksamy
death wobble has come and gone on my zuk , with fixes ranging from toe in to leaf spring bushings check everything regularly like you're supposed to.....:rolleyes:

I agree 100%. Alot of ppl are on about crossover steering but that doesnt solve all the problems. Crossover steering will minimize the problem, more less masking it and worn out tie rod ends = wobble ! And like i said earlier, 10 psi in a 33" bogger is NOT an ideal pressure to be drivin down the road, let alone the bogger itself. Crossover steering eliminates bumpsteer, not death wobble !

Rockrat
08-11-2002, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by 4004ever
http://www.breezeindustries.com/kit_details.htm#Cross%20Over%20Steering%20System

It costs 375 canadian, If you do the math, thats about 50 buck american!:D

Breeze Industries Cross Over Steering Kit

Precision machined from a solid steel blank (virtually indestructible).
100% bolt on installation.
Replaces right front king pin and bolts to caliper mount retaining original shims, a six bolt attachment.
No welding or bending of parts.
Mounted above axle housing, less susceptible to damage.
Eliminates bump steer.
All nuts, bolts grade 8 or better, with a heat treated king pin.
Drag link with new tie rod ends.
Built to withstand aftermarket power steering pressures.

Complete kit $273 American from N.C.O redue your math
or from me for $190.oo
http://www.northcoastoffroad.com/images/knuckle-sml1.gif

MuddMachine
08-11-2002, 06:50 PM
Originally posted by Rockrat
Precision machined from a solid steel blank (virtually indestructible).


Solid steel blank, you mean cast.

Slowzuki
08-12-2002, 06:21 AM
It's machined from a larger billet which obviously has been cast sometime in it's life but the part itself is not cast. Casting complicated shapes is *much* more difficult than casting a billet in a steel mill.

Ken

MuddMachine
08-12-2002, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by Slowzuki
It's machined from a larger billet which obviously has been cast sometime in it's life

Ken

Smart ass eh ? Still not the answer to death wobble, nice try tho.