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: Roll CALL - Surprise Canyon Meeting - Pasadena YellowSub1962 08-03-2002, 08:07 AM YellowSub Mustard Dog withamc R77toy Dingo Ed Stevens ? Sloan ? Ramstein ? JeepsKickass ? BigDan333 ? ACORA1 ? :usa: r77toy 08-03-2002, 08:36 AM I'm going. Who needs a ride, let's make this as easy as we can. Bill4rest 08-03-2002, 12:41 PM ttt:D YellowSub1962 08-04-2002, 07:45 AM some talking points for both meetings, I'll be trying to cover most of them at the Pasadena meeting, but we'll need someone(s) to cover all of them at the SD meeting, you guys are farthest from the trail and need to let the BLM know how far you drive to get there and ho much money you spend doing it... here's the link to the thread in the L/U section http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=71802&referrerid=1494 :usa: jefe 08-04-2002, 08:11 PM When/where/ is the meeting in Pasadena? regards, as always, jefe jefe 08-04-2002, 08:16 PM Never mind. I found it on the other post. regards, as always, jefe Dingo 08-05-2002, 03:40 AM BTT......I am in. ;) R77toy, I PM'ed you. YellowSub1962 08-05-2002, 08:28 AM :usa: Mustard Dog 08-05-2002, 09:02 AM I'll be there for both sessions wearing a black TIN:skull:BENDERS shirt. See you all there, let's put on a good show ;) Ed A. Stevens 08-05-2002, 10:01 AM Simple talking Points: Surprise Canyon Road is a road, it has been for centuries (traveled by Natives and Pioneers). Surprise Canyon Road is recognized as a road under the qualifications for a road (or highway) established under the Mining Act of 1872. Surprise Canyon Road was first graded and improved by mechanical means in 1874 by Remi Nadeau, paid under contract by the developers of the Panamint mines. Surprise Canyon Road was recognized by the County of Inyo as a road prior to the reservation of Death Valley National Monument in 1933. It appears as a road, and has always appeared as a road, on all Death Valley National Monument and National Park maps printed by (and for) the government. Surprise Canyon Road was recognized by Congress as a road in the Desert Conservation Act of 1980 (this is the Act that the CBD is trying to have the BLM alter, by litigation and legal stipulation). Surprise Canyon Road was recognized as a road by Congress in the Desert Protection Act of 1994, as a cherrystem through the Surprise Canyon Wilderness Area. Surprise Canyon Road is an established public road and cannot be closed to the public without agreement of the State of California and the County of Inyo (RS2477 provisions mandated by the Mining Act of 1872). Surprise Canyon Road is a cherrystem through designated Wilderness. It cannot be managed as Wilderness, and cannot be managed as a habitat protection buffer zone adjacent to Wilderness. The Wilderness Act of 1964 prohibits the consideration of habitat protection buffer zones adjacent to Wilderness. Happy Trails! KSL 08-05-2002, 10:15 AM i'll be there:flipoff2: Yellowsub you going to both? i can only make it to the second. Jeepskickass or any othe conejo valley people going i was looking for someone to keep me company on the drive:D i'll be leaving from Newbury Park around 4:30 and could go either 101 or 118. primergray 08-05-2002, 11:46 AM bump YellowSub1962 08-05-2002, 11:57 AM Originally posted by it'll fit i'll be leaving from Newbury Park around 4:30 and could go either 101 or 118. I'll be leaving around 1:15 (allowing time to overheat a couple of times on the way there) so yes I'm trying for both... and we all know you could go either way :flipoff2: C Ya there :usa: Dingo 08-05-2002, 01:37 PM BTT.....I am out the door.:p Mustard Dog 08-05-2002, 01:45 PM How about we all get some grub between meetings;) | |