: Would you do?
larboc@hotmail.com 09-18-2008, 09:36 PM K, well a guy stopped by the house as we were getting in the truck to head to the 4x4 meeting this evening asking if anyone wanted to buy a 60.
He's selling the '79 D60 and '9x 10.25 out of his '9x F250. 3.55's. Said he needs money, sounds like he'd settle on $600 cash for the pair.
I've been planning on swapping in a set of full width 2.76's or 3.08's into the 1980 scout to DD, but i'm thinking, why even mess around with d44's or 10-bolts. These guys would just about bolt in. I'd just need to come up with a left drop t-case.
Do you think the extra axle weight would make a considerable ride quality difference? I'd most likely do 3/4 ton leafs in the rear btw.
Not sure what to do, price is a little more than I really want to pay, but it sure would be a decent DD.
kicking the idea round, what do you guys think?
trkklr77 09-18-2008, 09:44 PM the weight of the axles wont affect the ride.
you have to ask your self, do i ever plan on wheeling, building, or using this for recovery? in any one is yes, then yes.
hell, for that price is worth it just to buy and sit on them or resell.
88burban 09-18-2008, 11:28 PM wait... youre debating on whether or not to sell a kid/kidney/whatever it takes to get a 60 for 600 bucks???
larboc@hotmail.com 09-19-2008, 06:31 AM wait... youre debating on whether or not to sell a kid/kidney/whatever it takes to get a 60 for 600 bucks???
thats almost double what i usually pay for them.
ok, so if i do do it, what's the best way to put a drivers drop t-case behind a t-19. Ford 205 go there? I've got/can get a BUNCH of ford parts for free.
Mechanos 09-19-2008, 10:22 AM thats almost double what i usually pay for them.
ok, so if i do do it, what's the best way to put a drivers drop t-case behind a t-19. Ford 205 go there? I've got/can get a BUNCH of ford parts for free.
I don't know if that's the best way... but would probably be the easiest. Either swap the Ford mainshaft into an IH T19 or swap an IH input shaft into a Ford T19.
uglyscout 09-19-2008, 11:46 AM I don't know if that's the best way... but would probably be the easiest. Either swap the Ford mainshaft into an IH T19 or swap an IH input shaft into a Ford T19.
Does the Ford case and IH case share the same bell housing side mount/bolt pattern? I've never looked a Ford T-19 over....
ChiScouter 09-19-2008, 12:27 PM Why do you need full width axles for a daily driver?
Mechanos 09-19-2008, 03:36 PM Does the Ford case and IH case share the same bell housing side mount/bolt pattern? I've never looked a Ford T-19 over....
Good question...... I don't know.
If the bolt pattern is different, then it would be easier to put the Ford mainshaft in the IH case.
CSmith 09-19-2008, 10:55 PM Why do you need full width axles for a daily driver?
x2. It will be much harder for you to park at the mall.
larboc@hotmail.com 09-19-2008, 11:19 PM Why do you need full width axles for a daily driver?
Bling.
It's cause I DD in houghton, MI. (search)
The real question is, why does anyone need full widths in anything?
Scout II's are just too damn low from the factory to do much with. SOA puts them where they need to be and it's too much of a pita to soa the front when I could just buy a 44 or 60 and pretty much bolt it in like i did on the yellow truck the first time round.
slipscomb 09-20-2008, 04:39 AM Good question...... I don't know.
If the bolt pattern is different, then it would be easier to put the Ford mainshaft in the IH case.
I've done this and "NO" the bellhousing bolt patterns are different. I swapped in the Ford output shaft (that I had shortened) and made an adapter to go from the Scout "Texas 20" pattern to the round Ford pattern.
The original setup....
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b326/slipscomb/Retro%20wheelin%20Scout%20pics/Scout%20rockwell%20buildup/slipscomb003.jpg
After I added the Ford 203 range box and made a new adapter to move the 205 back...
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b326/slipscomb/Retro%20wheelin%20Scout%20pics/Scout%20rockwell%20buildup/slipscomb023.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b326/slipscomb/Retro%20wheelin%20Scout%20pics/Scout%20rockwell%20buildup/slipscomb022.jpg
http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b326/slipscomb/Retro%20wheelin%20Scout%20pics/Scout%20rockwell%20buildup/slipscomb026.jpg
Sean
Snoopy 09-20-2008, 06:31 AM the weight of the axles wont affect the ride.
Actually it does. The more unsprung weight you have makes pot-holes and bumps in the road more violent. As the suspension has to absorb the force of the higher weighing axle assembly coming at it after hitting something. That's why REAL sports cars use LIGHT-WEIGHT wheel assemblies (rims/tires) to get the weight down to the minimum possible.
On the other hand ~ We're talking about a scout. If/when you experience a worse ride ~ get better shocks.:mr-t:
larboc@hotmail.com 09-20-2008, 07:09 AM I've done this and "NO" the bellhousing bolt patterns are different. I swapped in the Ford output shaft (that I had shortened) and made an adapter to go from the Scout "Texas 20" pattern to the round Ford pattern.
The original setup....
Sean
did you try to use the stock ford t19 to 205 adapter?
slipscomb 09-20-2008, 10:03 AM did you try to use the stock ford t19 to 205 adapter?
Yes, you can do that but it takes alot of driveshaft length from you on the rear. If it's low enough (which it looks like yours might be), long enough or you move the drivetrain forward enough, you might be able to run the stock adapter. The Ford T-19 adapter is also hard to find as it looks identicle to the NP 435 adapter but is the wrong length.
Sean
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