Well i had to post some pics of the scout that Fat City is working on also. Should be done by the 19th of Oct. I have more pics of this also but these are just some bumper shots. The front bumper was built for an 8274.

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whats the plan for the doors? Looks nice, I should do some work on mine.

Sweeeeeeeet. As a Scout owner I can really appreciate the work done to that fine rig...

A few Q's, did you reinforce the end-cap on the rear of the frame, they are notoriously week, especially with a body lift, and a bumper attached? And how big is that F-N fuel cell, or is it for corpse containment? If you get a chance can you post some pics of the cage, I love the design, what material did you use for the cage? Can't wait to see some action shots on the trail.

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Originally posted by fatkid:
<STRONG>whats the plan for the doors? Looks nice, I should do some work on mine.</STRONG>

The doors? What doors? They will stay just how they are in the first pic.

Excellent rig! I'm thinking the fuel cell will eventually happen to mine too.

I do like those diff covers. Better than this guy:

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btw, what wall thickness tubing are you using?

-John
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The fuel cell is a jazz products 33 gallon. They had to notch the fram to set it in low enough to allow for the extra capacity " beer " cooler. Yes the rear was reinforced as was the front. I'll have to look for some more cage pics but here are a few. They used 1 3/4 120 wall tube. The man is a friggin artist.


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150 quart cooler. Tested and proven to hold 5 cases of beer and 50lbs of ice. YEAH BABY!!!

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Originally posted by Brawler:
<STRONG>The doors? What doors? They will stay just how they are in the first pic.</STRONG>

I'm kinda diggin' the X-'d door area.

On mine on both sides I have some high "rocker bars" more or less - 6"-ish off the floor and roughly paralell to the ground. They're part of an "H" frame for the seat mounts.

On the passenger side, the door-bar starts at the back-bar and drops at an angle down to the front hoop where the "rocker" bar meets.

Great for getting in n' out, but lacks a little mid-section protection.

OTOH, on the driver's side I went with a horizontal door bar from the back bar to the bend at the "dash" in the front hoop.

Too high for most people to climb over, too low to climb under, and just plain in the way.

I was thinking of just going with the angled bar like the pass side has, and maybe a swingout mid-level bar for a little extra protection.. but maybe a full "X" would still let you get in/out easily enough at the bottom of the "V"?

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-Tom

sweet cage design man, i dig it even though it is a scout! jiMMy

I'm diggin the cooler <IMG SRC="smilies/smokin.gif" border="0"> That would hold enough <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0"> for a day trip <IMG SRC="smilies/biggrin.gif" border="0">

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Is that a '44 rear, or a SF 60? What kind of rear-disc setup is that? The ones I've seen all put the rotor BEHIND the wheel flange, this looks like it just slides OVER the wheel studs on the flange - no need to R&R the wheel bearing to put a disc rotor on it (aka you've broken an axle shaft far from home and a machine shop and only have a drum 'shaft handy)

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I like the seat mounts. Mine are currently straight tubes from the bottom of each door area straight across the top of the tunnel.

I was thinking of keeping the same basic layout but hooping the side-to-side bars over the trans tunnel when I move the engine back.

The setup you're running looks like it might be a bit stronger in some ways and certainly easier to position one seat different from the other.

OTOH, if *I* get side-impacted both seats will move away from the impact if the lower door bar folds - and it'll transfer the impact over to the other side of the rig, too.

Also, what's the reasoning behind the bent-ends on the dashbar and backbar? Is it stronger? Looks better? some other reason?

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that is a sweet scout. i like that rack over the fuel cell. diffenately a badass rig

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this might seems stupid but whyd u/they cover up the back light cutouts?

Originally posted by tsm1mt:
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I like the seat mounts. Mine are currently straight tubes from the bottom of each door area straight across the top of the tunnel.

I was thinking of keeping the same basic layout but hooping the side-to-side bars over the trans tunnel when I move the engine back.

The setup you're running looks like it might be a bit stronger in some ways and certainly easier to position one seat different from the other.

OTOH, if *I* get side-impacted both seats will move away from the impact if the lower door bar folds - and it'll transfer the impact over to the other side of the rig, too.

Also, what's the reasoning behind the bent-ends on the dashbar and backbar? Is it stronger? Looks better? some other reason?

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yes it's a rear 44.
From what i understand most people try to use rotors from a front scout 44 and you have do do some wierd stuff to make them work. I called tsm and bought there rotors for 120 bucks. All they are is ford 5 x 5 1/2 rotors. They need to be what is referred to as a hat rotor.

The reason behind the bend is most likely for looks. The cage is not done yet. There will be some triangulation and a few braces here and there. The cage ties into the frame. I am using beard front buckets extra wide and a beard bench in the rear.

The "cooler" rack was made specific to that cooler. It practicly snaps in it fits so good.

Thanks for all the feedback. I am extremely happy with there work and creativity.

Originally posted by mighty duck:
<STRONG>this might seems stupid but whyd u/they cover up the back light cutouts?</STRONG>


Actually all the light holes except the front headlights are filled in. They will be sanded and filled to smoothness and then the body painted. The reason ... haven't seen it before and it adds another little bit of originality to it.

dude what about filling up with gas when there's a cooler full of beer and ice.

I still like the concept though...sweet scout. hopefully mine will be set-up like that in a year or so.

get gas first then beer run! jIMMy

Originally posted by Jimmy76FJ40:
<STRONG>get gas first then beer run! jIMMy</STRONG>

EXACTLY. and with 33 gallons of gas i don't think i will need to fill up all that often.

Cool Scout really dig the integrated safty cage. Corse drinking 5 cases of <IMG SRC="smilies/beer.gif" border="0"> at camp that night may not make for an earlie departure time, and sure as hell would leave room for a hangover. Me I sail with the captain, or his buddy Mr. Royal...heheh

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Those guys do some sweet tubing work.

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I was amazed at how easy that thing was to push around when we went to put my 40 in the shop. I was going to do a rack in the rear but I have those tool boxes mounted next to the wheel wells.

Originally posted by Sloan:
<STRONG>I was amazed at how easy that thing was to push around when we went to put my 40 in the shop. I was going to do a rack in the rear but I have those tool boxes mounted next to the wheel wells.</STRONG>

If you are going with seat kit,cage, and things like that then i would recommend finding a way to do the rack. It seems to be one of Erics specialties.

I called and left a message today and he didn't call me back. I hope he took the day off everytime I talk to him he's working 24-7.

Originally posted by Sloan:
<STRONG>I called and left a message today and he didn't call me back. I hope he took the day off everytime I talk to him he's working 24-7.</STRONG>

I think he went to Farmington. He spots for Ian liljablad (sp).

just to piss BillaVista off!

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Fawking Sweet!!!!!!!!!

He's got finished pics too.
How bout it, Brawler

Wow! I thought these pics disappeared. Don't have any good action pics but have a few from saturday.

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I like the Scout, but you're gonna have trouble with those shackles cause the angles are pointing in toward the axle at rest. You're gonna bend some springs really soon ;)

I'll take this one.

Actually Curtis,

The shackle at ride hight is not angled toward the spring, but they are the stock mounts with a lift/spring over. The front shackles are streight up & down and the rears are angled the correct way, however, the rear in that pic dose look that way.
If you look close, the bumper is on the ground and when Brawler hit the gas the axle crawled under, making it angle toward the spring
ericfilar@fatcity

i normally am not a fan of scouts but that is pretty cool

Originally posted by dxwwn
i normally am not a fan of scouts but that is pretty cool

So what do you drive a Lexus SUV?
















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BTW, rig is looking sweet, are you still running the IH mill in that thing?

Originally posted by jdjanda


So what do you drive a Lexus SUV?


















:flipoff2:

BTW, rig is looking sweet, are you still running the IH mill in that thing?


By mill i asume you mean engine. The answer is no. 350 ci, th350 , np205, scout II d44 front/rear,scout II frame and body

Originally posted by FatCity
I'll take this one.

Actually Curtis,

The shackle at ride hight is not angled toward the spring, but they are the stock mounts with a lift/spring over. The front shackles are streight up & down and the rears are angled the correct way, however, the rear in that pic dose look that way.
If you look close, the bumper is on the ground and when Brawler hit the gas the axle crawled under, making it angle toward the spring
ericfilar@fatcity

I dunno. I always thought it better to have the shackle angle out away from the axle than straight up and down. My stock shackles had just a slight angle away from the axle and I always bent the front springs when I would get on a rock and give a little go pedal. It happened more than once ;) Heck even Abba's Scout II flipped the shackle back when he was at full flex and destroyed a spring pack.

Also, in the picks on the first page, the you can see the shackles are angled in toward the axle slightly. Heck, even in the pick below you can tell the front shackles are angled in toward the axle. Things are gonna break.

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=278288

That thing looks gay without that front windshield.:D

Originally posted by Curtis


I dunno. I always thought it better to have the shackle angle out away from the axle than straight up and down..



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You're correct,
it would be ideal for the shackles to have an angle to them rather than straight up and down, but once again they are the stock mounts.
You can E-mail Brawler to get his adress, so you can send him the donation check to re-do the mounts.
ericfilar@fatcity

Originally posted by FatCity



You're correct,
it would be ideal for the shackles to have an angle to them rather than straight up and down, but once again they are the stock mounts.

Yeah, but come on. You should know that when you add a lift or change the suspension you also should change shackle mounts to keep geometry correct if it is needed. Just throwing something in and leaving it alone because it is the "stock" position for something doesn't make it right. I still say some bent springs are in the future.


You can E-mail Brawler to get his adress, so you can send him the donation check to re-do the mounts.
ericfilar@fatcity

No need ot get touchy. I was just offering my advice using my experience. Anyway, how much does it cost to cut off the mounts and reweld them an inch or so to the back of their original position? If it was done when the springs and all were off, it would have taken all of 10 minutes or so per side.

very nice tube work. :beer:

This thing looks gay WITH a windshield.

Curtis, for your info the shackles in the fron point away from the axle and the ones in the rear do the same. I can take a pic for you so you can see for yourself if you like. Eric @ FatCity knows what he is doing when it comes to building and fabricating buggies of all makes and models as i'm sure you are aware. Shit breaks all the time and i plan on breakin all kinds, I'm sure if Eric thought the shackle angle was "bad" he would have changed it. Handles like a caddy on everything weve been on and climbs like a martha fawker. If something breaks we'll fix it.

who wants there scout to ride like a caddy! are you that old!:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Abba
That thing looks gay without that front windshield.:D

Here I thought it was just the paint job.. I really preferred the original paint. Fortunately, it's not mine, it's Brawler's and if he likes it, great. :D

Does mine look :rainbow: without the windshield? :D

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I think it just looks UGLY.. and so do the NWBinders.. two years in a row. :D

Of all the things I've broken on it, the windshield isn't on the list. :flipoff2:

Originally posted by Curtis


Yeah, but come on. You should know that when you add a lift or change the suspension you also should change shackle mounts to keep geometry correct if it is needed.

You're correct again,
I do know that.

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Thats not how I do things.

If I'm going to do it, I'm going to do it the right way,
and cuting the old ones off and hacking them back on is not the right way.

I'm not getting bent, I simply refuse to hack it together.
ericfilar@fatcity

No problem guys. I was just trying to offer some advice on something that may have been over looked. If you're happy with it, fine. I'm just saying I would have done it differently knowing what I know from experience ;)

Originally posted by Brawler
This thing looks gay WITH a windshield. That gay Scout will put a tire on your hood . Not bad for 3000 daler rig.

You two are incredible. I give up. I guess it's a good thing it wasn't built for you two. By the way, you runnin d44's w/ 40+ " tires?

Originally posted by Brawler
You two are incredible. I give up. I guess it's a good thing it wasn't built for you two. By the way, you runnin d44's w/ 40+ " tires?

Jesus dude. What's with the insults? I was trying to point out something technical. There was no insult intended, but you guys got offended. I could have given you a hard time about the orange color of the roll cage or some of the asthetic things I don't like about your rig, but I didn't.

If you want to keep this to a technical discussion I'm game, but please stop with the attitude, okay? It would be interesting to see some pics of the shackle angle like you offered. Care to put 'em up?

BTW-I run a 14 bolt in the rear and a 44 in the front (60 is on its way any day now) and 39.5's. Abba runs 60's front and rear with 44's. But, that has nothing to do with our discussion :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Curtis


Jesus dude. What's with the insults? I was trying to point out something technical. There was no insult intended, but you guys got offended. I could have given you a hard time about the orange color of the roll cage or some of the asthetic things I don't like about your rig, but I didn't.

If you want to keep this to a technical discussion I'm game, but please stop with the attitude, okay? It would be interesting to see some pics of the shackle angle like you offered. Care to put 'em up?

BTW-I run a 14 bolt in the rear and a 44 in the front (60 is on its way any day now) and 39.5's. Abba runs 60's front and rear with 44's. But, that has nothing to do with our discussion :rolleyes:

Will take pics first thing in the morning . I can't speak for Eric but as for me i wasn't mad at all. Now tell me how calling you Incredible is an insult! Second of all i didn't ask for your opinion. You freely gave it and your first comment about the My shackle angle was wrong. Like i said , i don't care if you like it or not, but i'm not mad or insulted.

The reason i asked about the d44's was i figured he had to be running at least one 60 for those tires. How did you get two d60's plus a scout for 3k?

Originally posted by Brawler


The reason i asked about the d44's was i figured he had to be running at least one 60 for those tires. How did you get two d60's plus a scout for 3k?

I'll answer for Abba since he is a sssslllllooooooooowwwww typist :D :D He does all his own work. He had a 60 front in a dual cab Chebby that he used and did alot of wheeling and dealing for everything else. For instance, he gave Mike Ladd a dana 44 front from his Scout II and a Sami for the 44" rubbers.

Originally posted by Curtis


I'll answer for Abba since he is a sssslllllooooooooowwwww typist :D :D He does all his own work. He had a 60 front in a dual cab Chebby that he used and did alot of wheeling and dealing for everything else. For instance, he gave Mike Ladd a dana 44 front from his Scout II and a Sami for the 44" rubbers. That is funny Curtis the slow part that is.:D :D

Originally posted by Brawler



The reason i asked about the d44's was i figured he had to be running at least one 60 for those tires. How did you get two d60's plus a scout for 3k?

Because he built his, and you bought yours.........I have a pair of 60's and all the necessary parts to swap into my scout, and I am still under $2000 invested in the rig, after I do the swap and sell the 2 locked d44's that are currently doing service I will have less than that in the rig, of course it doesn't have a show & shine paint job like yours:D

Originally posted by Hayraker


Because he built his, and you bought yours.........I have a pair of 60's and all the necessary parts to swap into my scout, and I am still under $2000 invested in the rig, after I do the swap and sell the 2 locked d44's that are currently doing service I will have less than that in the rig, of course it doesn't have a show & shine paint job like yours:D

First of all, i didn't " buy" my rig you homo ( intentional put down). The axles were stock under the scout. As with most axles gears and lockers were added. The only things i bought were the parts ( all new not junk yard). The tube work was something i don't think i nor you could have come up with without professional help. Thankfully i have a friend in the business that knows his shit. I have about 20k into my scout and it's all worth it.

So, you are going to tell me that your sixties were free? You had to have purchased them from somewhere and if you have any brains at all you rebuilt the axle and changed gear ratios.
And at the very least welded the spiders. That all cost money. BULLSHIT you guys only have two and three grand into your scouts. D60's alone cost at least a thou to buy and rebuild.

Show and shine huh? Well you can put your 5000lb rig up along side mine any day and i'll leave you sitten at the line. I didn't post pics to have you fawks tear it apart. If that is all you are gonna do then don't post. :D

Brawler, no pics of the shackles today? :(

Heck, I've got somewhere near 9K in my Scout right now. It does get expensive, I agree on that one.

After seeing Eric's work on Grape Nuts and talking to him I had him do the cage in my 40. He is above all concerned with safety, quality and doing the job right. I think Brawler falls in my category, not that he doesn't have the knowledge just no free time to do the work.:D

Here are a few things that might keep you from pulling away. 454 on nitrous sm465 with 203and 205- 513's spool in rear and detroit up front. lets run them. I'll be at the cal rocks events in Reno and Lake Amanor competing. Maybe I'll see you there.

Originally posted by Brawler


First of all, i didn't " buy" my rig you homo ( intentional put down).

Clever

The axles were stock under the scout. As with most axles gears and lockers were added. The only things i bought were the parts ( all new not junk yard).

nothing wrong with junkyard parts

The tube work was something i don't think i nor you could have come up with without professional help. Thankfully i have a friend in the business that knows his shit.

understandable, nobody should build a cage without experience, I traded work with a buddy for help on mine

I have about 20k into my scout and it's all worth it.

Brother I dont believe I would of told that



So, you are going to tell me that your sixties were free?
nope, gave $200 for the front, and traded some 265/75/16 pull off tires that I had laying around for the rear

You had to have purchased them from somewhere and if you have any brains at all you rebuilt the axle and changed gear ratios.

Already have 4.56 gears

And at the very least welded the spiders. That all cost money.

OK, welding rods cost about $1.00 a pound, I count my labor as free, hence it is cheaper to build & not buy

BULLSHIT you guys only have two and three grand into your scouts. D60's alone cost at least a thou to buy and rebuild.

Here is a list of EVERYTHING I have actually spent good old American Currency on so far:
Scout=$650
Brake lines=$100
Lockright for 44=$241
6 cans of Wal-Mart spray paint=$18.00
almost new TSL's=$375
u-bolts=$25
front 60=$200
battery=$60
fuel regulator=$20
tranny cooler=$20
Chrome Pig on the grill=$7
Thats what I have so far unless you want me to count gas, and oil, You will notice that nowhere is any labor listed, because me and my buddy did it all.

Show and shine huh? Well you can put your 5000lb rig up along side mine any day and i'll leave you sitten at the line.

You are probably right about that because I don't race mine, I built it to play in, and I built it cheap, There are people on this board that will back me up on what I have spent. So I could either have your "purty one" or roughly 10 of my FUGLY one, I'll just stick with mine
I didn't post pics to have you fawks tear it apart. If that is all you are gonna do then don't post. :D

I never tore your rig apart, that was others, and it really wasn't that bad of a razzing in my opinion, but you got upset when your shackle angle was questioned, and you resorted to being an ass. Then you questioned how anybody could have a scout with 60's under 3k, so I am telling you how, because I will have it shortly, I will spend anothe $800-$1000 before I am finished, but this will include wheels, tires, etc..

So, if my math is right I will still be under $3000:flipoff2:

Originally posted by Abba
Here are a few things that might keep you from pulling away. 454 on nitrous sm465 with 203and 205- 513's spool in rear and detroit up front. lets run them. I'll be at the cal rocks events in Reno and Lake Amanor competing. Maybe I'll see you there.

Well i'll be the first to admit that yours is bigger than mine. I'll run wit ya but i'll be eatin al lot of dust through my " windshield ".

Heycracker (jk) Glad you were able to get that thing and all it's parts for so little out of pocket. No hard feelins here so let's just leave it at that. Were are both binder owners (well mine is sort of). 20 k is mostly all parts. Scout was $1500 and the rest was parts and labor. Would i do it again? Yeah but i'd do it with 14bolt/60.

You guys better hang together you're the only 3 that own those crappy rigs.:flipoff2: I don't know all of you but I know Brawler and he's a good guy as I'm sure all of you are. Much Like Brawler if I feel you're bagging on my rig I'm gonna swell my chest a little and kick some sand, we're guys right???:D

How are my shackle angles? It did have a wooden bed on it. Got it for free, ran great, burned the wiring, cut it up.

Originally posted by Sloan
You guys better hang together you're the only 3 that own those crappy rigs.:flipoff2: I don't know all of you but I know Brawler and he's a good guy as I'm sure all of you are. Much Like Brawler if I feel you're bagging on my rig I'm gonna swell my chest a little and kick some sand, we're guys right???:D

Make that 4, but arn't you the only Chebbie Luv owner on the board?

Originally posted by Brawler


Show and shine huh? Well you can put your 5000lb rig up along side mine any day and i'll leave you sitten at the line. I didn't post pics to have you fawks tear it apart. If that is all you are gonna do then don't post. :D

Did someone say there was a DRAG RACE?

I'm there. I even have the timing tree (aka "Lights") so we can do it all perfeshunal like.

I'm at 3860lbs with me in the seat and a tank of gas.. 'only' a "mildly" worked over IH 304 under the hood tho'..

My rig is ugly as sin, but it hasn't changed much from my initial $1500 investment.

It's just that the junkyard ran out of running motors and I ran out of unbroken 727 cases..

So now it's more like $10,000... (yikes, did I just type that??)


Make that 4, but arn't you the only Chebbie Luv owner on the board?

Careful, jdjanda.. I have one in my backyard still, too. :D

Oh yeah, and that's 5 Binder owners (if you have more than one Scout, are you counted twice?)

I only run in races i know i can win. :D Abba has us all beat i'm sure, well maybe not with those 42's and 4.56 gears. Do i want to find out? Fawk i'll race but like i said i don't think my windshield will be up to the task. TSM, how did i know you'd want to run? Maybe us binders should get together for some racing and wheelin and of coarse DRINKIN!!!!!!!!!!! Any of you gonna be a TDS? I'll be there.

Originally posted by Brawler
I only run in races i know i can win. :D Abba has us all beat i'm sure, well maybe not with those 42's and 4.56 gears. Do i want to find out? Fawk i'll race but like i said i don't think my windshield will be up to the task.


Don't worry, I'm lacking in the glass department too.. only glass on my rig is in the headlights (and they're taped) and the plastic covers on the gauges. :)

42s n' 4.56s... vs. my 31s and 4.88s. :D


TSM, how did i know you'd want to run? Maybe us binders should get together for some racing and wheelin and of coarse DRINKIN!!!!!!!!!!! Any of you gonna be a TDS? I'll be there.

Because it doesn't take much of an excuse to get me to go play. :) I haven't found a sweet deal on a 60 yet so I'm not ready to go bash against the rocks.. but I *can* go fast - well, at least go quickly.

I need to finish putting it back together.. the neighbors might've forgotten what open headers sound like...

Actually, Abba's is 44"s and 5.13's ;) I have the 39.5"s and 4.56, but then I run a low end built Buick 231. It may not be fast, but it will take me where I want to go :D :D :D

And really though. I wasn't bagging on your Scout at all. I just expressed my concern about shackle angles because of things that have happened to me with shackles or things I've seen happen to others about shackles. I was just trying to help ya out :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Abba
Here are a few things that might keep you from pulling away. 454 on nitrous sm465 with 203and 205- 513's spool in rear and detroit up front. lets run them. I'll be at the cal rocks events in Reno and Lake Amanor competing. Maybe I'll see you there.

Hope you don't have to shift that pig on the go.

Squash

I still like the cooler rack...

Originally posted by billjohn
I still like the cooler rack...

That's right fawkers , i'll be the one with 7 cases of ice cold silver sodas and bud light for , well for me! Yeah baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by Realsquash


Hope you don't have to shift that pig on the go.

Squash I know how to shift .:D

Originally posted by Abba
I know how to shift .:D

Jesus! LOL You guys are all too fawkin funny. I think I'm going to read the entire post again just for kicks.

Abba,
Empty your PM box! I got a message sayin it's full and you can't get my mail.

Curtis,
What happend to your 38's? GIBBUMTO ME!!!!!

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Did somebody say beer? Oh, and soda pop for jdjanda :rasta:

Originally posted by JoshC


Curtis,
What happend to your 38's? GIBBUMTO ME!!!!!


Never got the 38's. I got Abba's old 39.5's instead for a good deal :D :D :D

Here are those shackle pics i told you i would take.

Front shackle

Originally posted by Brawler
Here are those shackle pics i told you i would take.

Brawler, Q for you. Is the cage tied into the frame? If not then you should consider boxing the rear body mounts. The rear frame rail is crap and is only .120 and held on by a bead top and bottom on each side. The beads are crap and will fail very easily.


Here is a link to the rear mounts I had to fab after I collapsed both of my rear mounts. I do have a 1' body lift.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8467&highlight=body+and+mounts

Joe

The cage is tied to the frame. Well it will be as soon as It's done.












Originally posted by jdjanda


Brawler, Q for you. Is the cage tied into the frame? If not then you should consider boxing the rear body mounts. The rear frame rail is crap and is only .120 and held on by a bead top and bottom on each side. The beads are crap and will fail very easily.


Here is a link to the rear mounts I had to fab after I collapsed both of my rear mounts. I do have a 1' body lift.
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8467&highlight=body+and+mounts

Joe

Originally posted by Brawler
The cage is tied to the frame. Well it will be as soon as It's done.


Are you going to try and isolate the frame mounts with rubber or poly, or just weld the cage to the frame. Since my still drives to the trail I'd like to see pics if you come up with some type of cage/frame isolator.

Joe

I noticed that in the first photo of the "cooler"
rack that the mounting tubes that hold it to the
cage are coming from the top hoop down.
Then in the next photo of the "cooler" rack the
same tubes are now coming from the bottom hoop up.
Is this just a reversed photo or were the mounting
tubes changes bewteen the times the photos were
taken? Which was do they mount now?

Very nice rig. I was thinking of doing a springover but decided against it because of
lots of off camber spots when rockcrawling.

What do you have for the "mill"?

The cooler mounting point was changed slightly. The " mill" is a 350,350,205


Originally posted by ScoutII
I noticed that in the first photo of the "cooler"
rack that the mounting tubes that hold it to the
cage are coming from the top hoop down.
Then in the next photo of the "cooler" rack the
same tubes are now coming from the bottom hoop up.
Is this just a reversed photo or were the mounting
tubes changes bewteen the times the photos were
taken? Which was do they mount now?

Very nice rig. I was thinking of doing a springover but decided against it because of
lots of off camber spots when rockcrawling.

What do you have for the "mill"?

Originally posted by ScoutII
Very nice rig. I was thinking of doing a springover but decided against it because of
lots of off camber spots when rockcrawling.

What does an SOA have to do with off-camber? Did someone tell you that your rig would tip with an SOA?

Joe

Brawler those shackles are pointing outward I think your gonna break a few body mounts with them that way :D
j/k :flipoff2:
Nice Work, Cept the cooler I think its kinda :rainbow:
:D

Originally posted by Brawler
Here are those shackle pics i told you i would take.

Wow. I stand corrected. They look good ;)

Now for the color choice . . . (j/k)

Originally posted by Curtis


Wow. I stand corrected. They look good ;)

Now for the color choice . . . (j/k)

The color choice was one i made because those are the "FatCity" Colors. They built a jeep that i like and it was painted the same.

Damn I like this Machine!!!!!!:eek:

Originally posted by The Chad
Damn I like this Machine!!!!!!:eek:
That is Tom Milins jeep. It'll be there at TDS. You may recall his submission to TTC last year. Didn't get to be one of the lucky ten.

What about Blackie the Jeep that started it all??? No pics of Blackie?:p

Originally posted by Sloan
What about Blackie the Jeep that started it all??? No pics of Blackie?:p

If you recall, Blackie was not very photogenic.