: orange camo
Weasel 09-25-2008, 08:51 PM ok I was watching something with tiger in it and started wondering why isn't there any orange camo on the market. I mean a tiger is pretty much pure orange and it works great for them and since we have to wear orange when hunting so why not combine the two? Not the blaze orange camo stuff but the bdu like orange camo.
So then that begs the question do deer see color? Or is it more of the UV stuff tat they see? Also orange does tend to blend in well with forested areas, or am I nuts.
Tempted to grab some bdu's and wash them in UV cleaner stuff and trying them out.
ZjSteveO 09-25-2008, 08:58 PM pretty sure deer cant see color, but they can see detail very well. a tigers "camo" works because it breaks up the tigers outline. so long as the clothing you use keeps the deer from seeing your outline, it doesn't really matter what color it is.
Spork 09-25-2008, 09:08 PM Something like this?
http://www.tedsmilitarysurplus.com/clothacc/tsorangecamo.html
or
http://www.soldiercity.com/ultra-force-orange-camo-bdu-pants/p/9017
or
http://www.securityprousa.com/coanpasaorca.html
HalfFastFord 09-25-2008, 09:11 PM What? No digital orange yet? What will all the hip gang bangers wear this fall season, the same old Army surplus?
Weasel 09-25-2008, 09:12 PM pretty sure deer cant see color, but they can see detail very well. a tigers "camo" works because it breaks up the tigers outline. so long as the clothing you use keeps the deer from seeing your outline, it doesn't really matter what color it is.
thats what my line of thought but more of a guess.
Something like this?
http://www.tedsmilitarysurplus.com/clothacc/tsorangecamo.html
or
http://www.soldiercity.com/ultra-force-orange-camo-bdu-pants/p/9017
or
http://www.securityprousa.com/coanpasaorca.html
yeah, thats the best I could find, wish there was a red/orange combo but I didn't find anything like that.
ZjSteveO 09-25-2008, 09:38 PM just do a blaze orange ghillie suit. that would be visible from space to other hunters, and would hide you from the deer.:smokin:
Paul Gagnon 09-25-2008, 09:49 PM ok I was watching something with tiger in it and started wondering why isn't there any orange camo on the market. I mean a tiger is pretty much pure orange and it works great for them and since we have to wear orange when hunting so why not combine the two? Not the blaze orange camo stuff but the bdu like orange camo.
So then that begs the question do deer see color? Or is it more of the UV stuff tat they see? Also orange does tend to blend in well with forested areas, or am I nuts.
Tempted to grab some bdu's and wash them in UV cleaner stuff and trying them out.
A tiger's stripes help them to hide in tall grass.
Weasel 09-25-2008, 09:56 PM A tiger's stripes help them to hide in tall grass.
But they are still a huge orange rug with some black stripes.
The main thing is we have to wear orange when hunting, I had all the extra orange vest I have to deal with so why not just get orange camo to begin with.
The tiger thing was just a, hey thats interesting....
Paul Gagnon 09-25-2008, 10:20 PM But they are still a huge orange rug with some black stripes.
The main thing is we have to wear orange when hunting, I had all the extra orange vest I have to deal with so why not just get orange camo to begin with.
The tiger thing was just a, hey thats interesting....
We don't have to wear blaze orange in Alberta anywhere except for hunting on Army bases.
BumpyDodge 09-25-2008, 11:44 PM There was an article in the Science Times about it last week. The University of Georgia did a lot of research on deer vision.
The research revealed that deer vision is a little blurrier than human vision — about 20/40 — and that deer see the world roughly like a human with red-green colorblindness. Their eyes have only two color receptors (unlike the three in the human eye). Fortunately for hunters, they have a hard time seeing blaze orange.
But they’re more sensitive than humans to light at the blue end of the spectrum. And thanks to the eyes on either side of the head, they can see a field of vision covering 270 degrees.
Makes me think maybe those guys that wore red plaid to hunt deer back in the 1950's may have had the right idea after all. Deer can't see red, people can (safety), and the plaid would help break up your pattern.
Source (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/23/science/23tier.html)
There's also evidence to suggest that the UV brighteners in most detergents can ruin your camo. The deer see them as a bright blue. I know some detergents and fabric softeners will make a camouflage uniform *glow* when viewed in the dark with nightvision, so it sounds totally plausible to me.
http://home.adelphia.net/~geffert/deervis.htm
SilverZuk 09-26-2008, 05:40 AM I don't have a clue if deer can see color, but they can see blaze orange.
Aparently to deer it is like a neon sign. People wear orange camo to try to break up the outline.
I set myself up to keep most of the orange out of the normal field of view of a deer.
Doc Holiday13 09-26-2008, 05:51 AM I don't have a clue if deer can see color, but they can see blaze orange.
Aparently to deer it is like a neon sign. People wear orange camo to try to break up the outline.
I set myself up to keep most of the orange out of the normal field of view of a deer.
Same here. Once i'm in my stand I take off my orange and hang it above me
4in100 09-26-2008, 06:13 AM It calls it brown, but it looks orange
http://lauerweaponry.com/images/cpr19.jpg
Weasel 09-26-2008, 05:49 PM I don't have a clue if deer can see color, but they can see blaze orange.
Aparently to deer it is like a neon sign. People wear orange camo to try to break up the outline.
I set myself up to keep most of the orange out of the normal field of view of a deer.
Not according to the research, I've never had an issues that I could point to and say it was the blaze orange.
Imo it would be more of the UV issue that was pointed out above, UV stuff can make you glow like a blue light bulb.
ItsaCJ6 09-26-2008, 05:55 PM Even if they can't see color. You just moved a BILLBOARD sized object in white or grey through the backbround of dark colored foliage. A half blind imbecil could see that, I will give the deer/elk the benifit of the IQ advantage.
Weasel 09-26-2008, 06:17 PM Even if they can't see color. You just moved a BILLBOARD sized object in white or grey through the backbround of dark colored foliage. A half blind imbecil could see that, I will give the deer/elk the benifit of the IQ advantage.
huh?
If they can only see yellow and blue it's going to be tough to see anything black and white in dark colored foliage? Movement would be the only thing that would give it away.
ItsaCJ6 09-26-2008, 06:33 PM huh?
If they can only see yellow and blue it's going to be tough to see anything black and white in dark colored foliage? Movement would be the only thing that would give it away.
Sorry that does not render you invisible, merely not COLORED.
ZjSteveO 09-26-2008, 07:06 PM Sorry that does not render you invisible, merely not COLORED.
wat? the point of the camouflage pattern is to break up your outline. as long as your pattern(camouflage) matches your surroundings and you stay still, the deep doesn't spot you. its obviously far from foolproof, but if you see them before they see you, it doesn't need to be.:smokin:
ItsaCJ6 09-26-2008, 07:50 PM My comment was about the color not about the camo.
braxton357 09-26-2008, 08:07 PM I'm not sure what this thread is about...? Just tiger stripe camo? There has been blaze orange camo garments for as long as I've been hunting. Where is the debate? As itsacj said, it doesn't matter what color it is... a solid (any) color vest/jacket is going to be a big neon sign in foliage.
Paul Gagnon 09-26-2008, 08:49 PM not COLORED.
Why do you have to be that way?
ItsaCJ6 09-26-2008, 08:50 PM Why do you have to be that way?
Segregation is best.. stay north of the 47th parallel and we will be fine.:flipoff2:
Weasel 09-26-2008, 11:05 PM My comment was about the color not about the camo.
well yeah that was sorta my original point. :confused:
ZjSteveO 09-27-2008, 08:20 AM My comment was about the color not about the camo.
but the color of the camo doesn't really matter, as long as its treated to not give off the blue uv glow.
unimog 09-27-2008, 12:32 PM What a deer will see if your wearing a solid color like orange is your human outline. Orange camo works very well and if you have your outline broken up and are not standing out in the open they won't see you. What they will immediately see is your face first then your hands, or of course any motion. Your hands and face must be covered if you don't want to be seen. Crow hunting showed us the hand and face thing, one glove off and they would flare. If you were completely camoed, not in orange, they will just keep circling your decoys and call while you blaze them. But, no deer can't see orange as a bright color, just kind of grey. It is your outline, face, hands, and motion that will visually alert them.
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